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    2020 US elections. What's the status of pindostan and their 2nd civil war?

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    Post  Maximmmm Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:52 am

    Hole wrote:Jen Psaki is back! pwnd
    Can´t wait for the first press briefing. lol!

    We all missed that c%^$ love
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    Post  AlfaT8 Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:47 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    In a democracy, People Vote, and they vote for certain interests, these interests lead to laws, and these laws change the Culture.
    Leading to our current situation.

    I don't think there is any link between votes and laws....

    Couldn't disagree more, there are plenty of politicians who get elected to fulfill some crazy promise, which lead to laws being changed or added.
    Welfare being one of the big ones, like Obama care for example.

    It's not an absolute, but over time it will still screw things up.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:14 am

    People power means nothing these days with only a few exceptions.

    We had a couple of issues here in NZ a few years ago under a national government about selling state assets so we had a non binding referendum and the NZ population overwhelmingly voted against the sales, but they sold them anyway because that is what they had already decided to do.

    Most international trade agreements America makes are all about making sure big western companies can sue small countries and get their way on things.

    New Zealand fishing companies get Russian and Ukrainian fishermen in here to operate their boats because they know they can pay them less than they could get away paying a western person...

    The first thing most US presidents do when they get into office is reduce tax rates.... for the rich and for businesses... who already use accountants to pay the minimum tax already.

    Most of the time politicians like to distract the public when something important is coming up... last time for us they decided to go through the bollocks of finding a new flag for our country... a total smoke screen but they get the support of the television channels and it works every time.

    Politicians certainly get elected because this or that policy is popular but how often do those politicians ever follow through?

    One politician can push something through that the rich and the powerful don't want pushed through and they will often simply bury it.
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    Post  AlfaT8 Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:53 pm

    GarryB wrote:Politicians certainly get elected because this or that policy is popular but how often do those politicians ever follow through?

    One politician can push something through that the rich and the powerful don't want pushed through and they will often simply bury it.

    And their we have the 2 types of politicians.

    Those that try to fulfill their promises even if it's done in a half-baked manner to placate their base.
    And those that turn into corporate shills the minute their in office, but still pretend to give a damn.

    Take McCain for instance one of the biggest shills ever, but still maintain his "Conservative" Camo, thanks to his Military service and PR border control nonsense.
    Every time someone tried to confront him about conservatism or lack there of, he pulls the damn War, War and more War card.

    In the end it's an ignorant electorate that refuses to pay attention to these things.

    But there are dedicated interests to push for things to get done after all its not just politicians that get voted, it's also Judges and Law enforcement, you can definitely make some headway for your interests by getting these people changed to suite your interests.
    After all theirs how the Law is written and then there's how it's enforced.
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    Post  kvs Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:39 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    In a democracy, People Vote, and they vote for certain interests, these interests lead to laws, and these laws change the Culture.
    Leading to our current situation.

    I don't think there is any link between votes and laws....

    Couldn't disagree more, there are plenty of politicians who get elected to fulfill some crazy promise, which lead to laws being changed or added.
    Welfare being one of the big ones, like Obama care for example.

    It's not an absolute, but over time it will still screw things up.

    Indeed. "No fault" divorce laws are a prime example of activism by do-gooder-opportunist politicians pandering to
    certain social trends. These laws have turned marriage into a nightmare for men.

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    Post  kvs Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:12 pm



    The US 2020 presidential election was a total fraudulent farce. And we have "experts" in Russia nitpicking over
    the shapes of Gaussian distributions. Imagine the hysteria if there were the sort of brazen "irregularities"
    that we saw in the USA.

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    Post  kvs Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:20 pm



    And this is the country that lectures others on democracy.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:37 pm

    Maximmmm wrote:
    Hole wrote:Jen Psaki is back! pwnd
    Can´t wait for the first press briefing. lol!

    We all missed that c%^$ love

    Watch what you say, Jen Psaki will confront with the entire US Navy at the shores of Switzerland's naval borders! Wink
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    Post  kvs Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:44 pm

    So I have an Ubuntu install on one of my PCs and it has some Firefox version which gives me a "Pocket" recommendation on launch
    to read a "politico.com" hack piece denying any voter fraud in Michigan.

    Clearly, the makers of Firefox feel the need to tell me what to think. These are the people producing the internet tools we use. If
    you think that they will bend over backward to let you have real freedom, then you are wearing a tinfoil hat.


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    Post  Maximmmm Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:08 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Maximmmm wrote:
    Hole wrote:Jen Psaki is back! pwnd
    Can´t wait for the first press briefing. lol!

    We all missed that c%^$ love

    Watch what you say, Jen Psaki will confront with the entire US Navy at the shores of Switzerland's naval borders! Wink

    Sh%t I need to run to the bunker downstairs!!!
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    Post  franco Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:20 pm

    I hear you are safe, the navy commander said that he didn't trust his commanders to be able to navigate between the Alps. Suspect

    However last I heard the US Army was trying to acquire some elephants so affraid

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    Post  AlfaT8 Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:31 pm

    Uhm, U.S dollar situation looking bleak.
    The money printer was set to overdrive.

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    3:00

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    Post  kvs Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:42 pm

    That dollar graphic is just wow...

    Pancho Villa peso printing presses are in full overdrive. The US bubble is about to burst.

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    Post  kvs Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:58 am

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cctv-video-georgia-poll-workers-sparks-election-fraud-outrage

    Some "fake story". May the makers of Firefox die and rot in Hell.

    This is pure ballot stuffing. Secret ballots hidden under tables waiting to be injected after the official counting is over.



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    Post  AlfaT8 Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:37 am

    Georgia's certification is nonsense at this point, they got straight up caught on camera.
    Even Santa Claus showed up to tell them this is Flippin wrong. santa



    And these margins man, wow.
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    Post  LMFS Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:16 am

    It probably can not get more brazen than that, can it?

    I find it interesting how the republicans were so fast to blame China, Russia, Iran and Venezuela, which is an obvious lie, more than probably to avoid democrats from accusing them of colluding with the said countries. What the evidence shows is massive internal fraud with the intervention of organizations in Germany and Spain.
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    Post  kvs Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:08 pm

    LMFS wrote:It probably can not get more brazen than that, can it?

    I find it interesting how the republicans were so fast to blame China, Russia, Iran and Venezuela, which is an obvious lie, more than probably to avoid democrats from accusing them of colluding with the said countries. What the evidence shows is massive internal fraud with the intervention of organizations in Germany and Spain.

    It is brazen and banana republic level but since the western fake stream media does not pay attention to it, then it never happened.

    The same as the shelling of Donbass residential areas and the slaughter of thousands of civilians at the hands of Banderite militants
    never happened either. The west is an Orwellian information bubble. But Orwell was barking up the wrong tree with his fiction.
    Cheesy, ham-fisted and openly sadistic rule is self-defeating. The best totalitarianism is the one where the proles think they are free.

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    Post  LMFS Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:52 pm

    kvs wrote:It is brazen and banana republic level but since the western fake stream media does not pay attention to it, then it never happened.

    The same as the shelling of Donbass residential areas and the slaughter of thousands of civilians at the hands of Banderite militants
    never happened either.    The west is an Orwellian information bubble.   But Orwell was barking up the wrong tree with his fiction.
    Cheesy, ham-fisted and openly sadistic rule is self-defeating.   The best totalitarianism is the one where the proles think they are free.

    Of course, the people in the West despises other states' propaganda without realizing that the one they are being manipulated with is a way more dangerous, sophisticated and insidious one. In fact the true "core competence" of the West, without any doubt.
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:42 pm

    LMFS wrote:
    I find it interesting how the republicans were so fast to blame China, Russia, Iran and Venezuela, which is an obvious lie, more than probably to avoid democrats from accusing them of colluding with the said countries. What the evidence shows is massive internal fraud with the intervention of organizations in Germany and Spain.

    Dig deeper and you find out why they make those claims, this is what I think went on:

    - China, owns 70% of a part of UBS that owns Dominion
    - Russia, gets blamed for everything but nothing specific here, added because its part of the US mantra and used every time they can
    - Iran, as per Russia
    - Venezuela, original part owners of Smartmatic (they license their software to all the US election machine supply companies) when Chavez bought about 37% and they 'optimised' their software to ensure his, as well as many others since, victory
    - Spain, Barcelona, the main location of the company (murky as it went bust last June) whose Floridian subsidiary was contracted to do election analysis so had a live data feed
    - Germany, Frankfurt, believed to be the location of the prime real time election monitoring, optimisation and reporting site, an onward linked destination for the data passing through Barcelona. There is a suspicion that the site is operated by a US organisation (CIA) within a US diplomatic or military site, there are many in the area.

    None of these nations was directly involved in the election. As you say this is an internal to the US issue that they want blamed on everyone else.
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    Post  calripson Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:22 pm

    No identification is required to vote in America. Show up on election day and give them your name - or you can read one off of the upside down voter registration book they present to you. Vote by mail - no signature verification required. Just mail in the name with a matching address and you are good to go. To require ID or a signature verification is racist - an attempt at minority voter disenfranchisement. You cannot however, buy alcohol or even cigarettes without showing a state ID. Even if you are 50 years old. I have yet to see any minority community on a Friday or Saturday night where that requirement presents an impediment to buying cigs or booze.
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    Post  LMFS Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:57 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Dig deeper and you find out why they make those claims, this is what I think went on:

    - China, owns 70% of a part of UBS that owns Dominion
    - Russia, gets blamed for everything but nothing specific here, added because its part of the US mantra and used every time they can
    - Iran, as per Russia
    - Venezuela, original part owners of Smartmatic (they license their software to all the US election machine supply companies) when Chavez bought about 37% and they 'optimised' their software to ensure his, as well as many others since, victory
    - Spain, Barcelona, the main location of the company (murky as it went bust last June) whose Floridian subsidiary was contracted to do election analysis so had a live data feed
    - Germany, Frankfurt, believed to be the location of the prime real time election monitoring, optimisation and reporting site, an onward linked destination for the data passing through Barcelona. There is a suspicion that the site is operated by a US organisation (CIA) within a US diplomatic or military site, there are many in the area.

    None of these nations was directly involved in the election. As you say this is an internal to the US issue that they want blamed on everyone else.

    Yes, as you say the relationship outside of Spain and Germany is purely circumstantial or non-existing at all. In the case of the Venezuelan guy I doubt very much he is a chavista at all.

    But if the republicans do not make these statements pre-emptively, then the democrats will again accuse them of being Putin puppets and being acting on his orders to destroy the true bastion of democracy, freedom and human rights on the planet!! clown
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    Post  Kiko Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:35 am

    If the US election fraud happened in any other country of the globe, then they would brand it illegitimate and a string of sanctions would follow suit:
    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/508738-us-election-stolen-democracy/
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    Post  GarryB Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:59 am

    It always depends on who is favoured... ie who wins determines if we scream Russian hackers or if we say fair election... why are you guys so upset... Smile
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    Post  AlfaT8 Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:57 pm

    Fraud Confirmed, no Judge can deny this anymore, Georgia's going to Trump.
    Tape and voting data confirm fraud, this case is now bulletproof.

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    Post  kvs Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:00 pm

    Clearly there was cheesy ballot stuffing level fraud in the US election. It allowed Biden to steal it. But I am not holding my breath
    waiting for the rotten US judicial system to fix this. The D. Party and deep state judges will just find pretexts to exclude evidence
    and dismiss cases. The key thing is that the D. Party is now the deep state party so its fraud is enabled and has a roof. If it was
    some regular party it would have been destroyed by the scandals we have seen over the last 5 years. Obummer committed domestic
    crimes that make Nixon look like an innocent choir boy. The FISA fraud and attempt to lynch Trump using the Russiagate hoax are
    enough for the D. Party to be broken up and replaced. Like the Canadian Conservative party after 1992. Instead we see Trump
    getting only one term and some senile crook, Bidet, "winning" even though he could not even draw a real crowd to any of his rallies.
    Basically Bidet did not even campaign. He just magically won.

    As of now the US is a one party state.

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