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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:28 pm

    What do you think is the future of the US?

    Political polarization is rising every year to an extent that people actually choose cities and neighborhoods where they live on the basis of political beliefs.

    Trump saying he will not cede power peacefully

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    Post  The-thing-next-door on Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:41 pm

    Judging by their attitude and approach to politics they will probably get themselves cratered long before they can get around to killing themselves.
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    Post  kvs on Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:48 pm

    Any country that thinks it is exceptional will behave like the Nazis one way or another and drive themselves full speed into
    the brick wall called reality.

    Japan has this problem too, BTW. But they are in a bizarre subservience state as a US protectorate.

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    Post  GarryB on Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:41 am

    I find it very ironic anti trump people accusing him of not accepting a loss in this election considering how the democrats acted over the results of the last election.

    Even more so when you look at all the terrible dirty tricks both sides play out eliminating hundreds of thousands of legitimate votes for some technicality or another because they think it will help them win.

    The fact that only two candidates every have a chance of winning makes it look more communist than democratic... the idea of a poor person getting into the whitehouse is hilarious... I honestly think that a nobody could win elections in the US simply by changing their name to something everybody recognises and respects... like a Hollywood star... because the vast majority of the time I think most Americans are not voting for someone they are voting against someone and a familiar name of a person you like or you think you like is a good anti vote...

    With the current choice of fucking old white rich man or fucking older white rich man, you could probably get elected by changing your name to Robin Williams, or Harrison Ford. Yeah, I know one of those guys is dead, but it is name recognition, so having the name of a dead person prevents them accepting office in your place...

    The whole election process limits the field of choice and prevents diversity... in the previous election the democrats cheated in their own race and put Hilary forward when Sanders was probably the only one that could have beaten Trump.

    The way Sanders folded and supported Clinton and didn't put up a fuss suggests he would have been a shit president anyway... but they probably threatened his family...

    I thought the talk of Russian hackers in the DNC server was hilarious too... no evidence because the investigators were never given access to the server or the server logs... they didn't want the truth because Russian hackers was a better story than disunity in the DNC over the screwing of Sanders... a Sanders supporter with a USB memory stick downloads all the information and hands it to wikileaks... no need for Russian hackers, but Russian hackers makes it look like the Russians support Trump over Hilary which helps Hilary because the Russians are bad. News there is disunity in the democratic party and the information on Hilarys criminal activity was leaked and not hacked likely would have been ignored by the clearly democrat friendly intelligence agencies in the US... they chased Trump harder than they chased Bin Laden.... the difference was the OBL was guilty and they could find nothing on Trump at all.
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    Post  The-thing-next-door on Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:49 pm

    kvs wrote:Any country that thinks it is exceptional will behave like the Nazis one way or another and drive themselves full speed into
    the brick wall called reality.

    I could not agree more.

    Japan has this problem too, BTW.   But they are in a bizarre subservience state as a US protectorate.


    I am not quite familiar with what is going on there, what do you think hey will try to do about thier situation?
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    Post  kvs on Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:41 pm

    The-thing-next-door wrote:
    kvs wrote:Any country that thinks it is exceptional will behave like the Nazis one way or another and drive themselves full speed into
    the brick wall called reality.

    I could not agree more.

    Japan has this problem too, BTW.   But they are in a bizarre subservience state as a US protectorate.


    I am not quite familiar with what is going on there, what do you think hey will try to do about thier situation?

    Japanese are very chauvinist and drink heavily of the exceptionalism koolaid.   This was very apparent before WWII
    (no they were not victims of US manipulation).

    Over the last few weeks Japan has threatened to take back the southern Kuriles militarily.   They are still demented
    in posing as the victims in WWII and their nonsensical revisionist history books show this.  

    Japanese abuses in China during the 20s and 30s were something special.   And Japanese experimentation on POWs
    and civilians during WWII was on the level of the Nazis.

    Meanwhile the NATzO west endlessly bitches at Russia for not accepting its "guilt" during WWII and "guilt" for Stalin.
    Funny how only the Germans have had to repent for Hitler and WWII.   The Japanese have deified their war criminals.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:03 pm

    By the way United States has a growing income inequality it is literally growing every year and the US government is not doing much about it.

    There are other issues as well like crappy infrastructure as well as expensive education and healthcare.

    It starts looking vaguely like Rome before collapse or Russia at the brink of Revolution. Do you see it as well?
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:57 am

    It starts looking vaguely like Rome before collapse or Russia at the brink of Revolution. Do you see it as well?

    America is a republic and not a democracy and it was designed the way it is for a reason... the problem is that with its components all working together it resists change yet amendments create change all the time and often these days in favour of big business and against the interests of the average American...

    The problem is that while being set up for the average joe it is also designed to not be breakable, so now it is essentially working against the poor and is actively shifting wealth from the general majority into the hands of the already rich minority the chances of fixing that are zero because money is power and the people in power are using the system to milk the majority of the little money they have left... to stop them the people need power, but power is not a vote any more because when there are only two candidates for any position it is just as easy to bribe two as it is to bribe one, so it matters not who gets elected... they were funded by the rich and the rich expect a good return on their money... and the fact that they are rich suggests that is what normally happens.

    The solution include a fiscally responsible person gets into power and can convince everyone that America right now is not great and is heading down the path of an economic end, and that the solution is to get rid of lawyers and accountants that help the criminals win and the greedy avoid paying their fair share of tax and contributions to the community that created them... the legal system is about protecting society and punishing wrong doing... rehabilitation could be part of that, but sometimes it is futile. A lawyers job is to ensure their client understands what is happening to them and that the prosecution doesn't screw them on a technicality, but it is not to get a guilty person off a charge.

    The problem is that this is not going to happen... even if that right person got in then congress and the senate are full of rich people who are bought and wont help you because you are a democrat or a republican.

    Revolution is their only option and they are terrible... but with people brought up with video games and war movies it is too late when they realise even what they had was better than that...



    And Japanese experimentation on POWs
    and civilians during WWII was on the level of the Nazis.

    The Japs were a whole other level... the Nazis had enemies they wanted rid of and were expendable... commies, homos, the disabled, and of course Jews... the latter getting the most publicity... don't get me wrong... what was done was indefensible... but compared with the Japs... imagine you are a prisoner and you get sent to a hospital... they cut off both your arms and legs and then try to reattach them in the wrong places... note they don't want chemicals or drugs to effect the result so you don't get any anesthetic or anything for the pain. They want to learn about the plague so they infect 1,000 men... every day the do a live autopsy to see how the disease is progressing... they cut you up alive to see how the disease is progressing... say two men a day for a couple of months and anyone who dies because of the disease is also autopsied... no anesethic for anyone because it might effect the results...

    But the Americans wanted access to that information so to prevent them destroying their records and photos and recordings they offered then amnesty and a nice house in the US with a job...

    But Russia are the bad guys... because the Americans tell us so.
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