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    Post  kvs on Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:30 am

    F*cking western hate propagandists knew full well that phase III trials were going to be conducted but still ran with the
    not tested enough blood libel that their resident troll parrots spread here.

    We saw similar BS several months ago when CNN et al. where bitching and moaning that there were too few cases in Russia.
    These slimeballs didn't apply the same standard to India. The concepts of time dependence and dynamical evolution are
    not admitted when it comes to spreading hate.

    But the fake stream media is currently messing up the west itself with its pimping of SJW zealots and BLM terrorists.



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    Post  kvs on Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:59 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:"REPORTS: Russia & Germany discuss production of Russian coronavirus vaccine in Germany at meeting between Russian Health Minister Mikhail Murashko & German Ambassador to Russia Geza Andreas von Geyr."

    https://twitter.com/afshinrattansi/status/1294307373977305093

    Also it would be so delicious how Western media would spin Germany producing the Rus Covid-19 Vaccine. It's highly amusing that for years they referred to Anti-Vaxxers as 'lunatics' to now turn on the dime and regurgitate Anti-Vaxxer mantra when it's politically convenient lmao! lol1 Embarassed Razz

    It would be nice. But NATzO accounts for under 11% of the global population. So validation of the Russian vaccine does not depend on
    NATzO's approval. They can eat their overpriced Big Pharma shit. Attempts to sabotage the choice of countries around the world who
    are not run by NATzO quislings will fail. The propaganda is cheesy and contradictory.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:58 pm

    kvs wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:"REPORTS: Russia & Germany discuss production of Russian coronavirus vaccine in Germany at meeting between Russian Health Minister Mikhail Murashko & German Ambassador to Russia Geza Andreas von Geyr."

    https://twitter.com/afshinrattansi/status/1294307373977305093

    Also it would be so delicious how Western media would spin Germany producing the Rus Covid-19 Vaccine. It's highly amusing that for years they referred to Anti-Vaxxers as 'lunatics' to now turn on the dime and regurgitate Anti-Vaxxer mantra when it's politically convenient lmao! lol1 Embarassed Razz

    It would be nice.  But NATzO accounts for under 11% of the global population.   So validation of the Russian vaccine does not depend on
    NATzO's approval.   They can eat their overpriced Big Pharma shit.   Attempts to sabotage the choice of countries around the world who
    are not run by NATzO quislings will fail.   The propaganda is cheesy and contradictory.


    The main importance is not about their validation but discrediting their narratives, not just from their bullhorn media but from their fake watch-dog groups too. If places like Germany, Italy, Greece, India, China adopt Sputnik 5 in mass with great success, that would be a counter-propaganda coup of the highest order of magnitude, and the Federation will benefit from the win-fall in multiple areas and directions for generations to come.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:14 am

    The implications of Mexico turning towards Russia and away from the U.S. will cause geo-strategic shockwaves for decades to come.

    #Mexico's president López Obrador volunteers to try Russian coronavirus vaccine.
    #SputnikV

    https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1295416910046277639
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    Post  kvs on Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:40 am

    There is more than one propaganda approach.   One is to spew hate at a target such as a leader (e.g. Putin) to install a comprador regime.
    Another approach is to ignore events that matter.    We had this with Afghanistan when the western fake stream media would simply keep
    quiet as things went south for the USA.

    Recall the Ebola vaccine produced by the same research institute as the Covid-19 vaccine.   There is basically zero information as to
    what is the status of its deployment in 2017.   As if nothing of note happened.  

    https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/rusal-ebola-vaccinations-in-guinea/

    https://novamedica.com/media/theme_news/p/9986-russia-developed-new-ebola-vaccine

    https://www.newvision.co.ug/news/1509159/russia-ready-supply-ebola-vaccine-africa

    Also note an example of the west giving out an unproven Ebola vaccine:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/cautious-game-changer-ebola-vaccine-180529122431725.html

    No shrieking about safety there.

    And here is the real story:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5360131/

    Ebola hemorrhagic fever, also known as Ebola virus disease or EVD, is one of the most dangerous viral diseases in humans and animals. In this open-label, dose-escalation clinical trial, we assessed the safety, side effects, and immunogenicity of a novel, heterologous prime-boost vaccine against Ebola, which was administered in 2 doses to 84 healthy adults of both sexes between 18 and 55 years. The vaccine consists of live-attenuated recombinant vesicular stomatitis virus (VSV) and adenovirus serotype-5 (Ad5) expressing Ebola envelope glycoprotein. The most common adverse event was pain at the injection site, although no serious adverse events were reported. The vaccine did not significantly impact blood, urine, and immune indices. Seroconversion rate was 100 %. Antigen-specific IgG geometric mean titer at day 42 was 3,277 (95 % confidence interval 2,401–4,473) in volunteers immunized at full dose. Neutralizing antibodies were detected in 93.1 % of volunteers immunized at full dose, with geometric mean titer 20. Antigen-specific response in peripheral blood mononuclear cells was also detected in 100 % of participants, as well as in CD4+ and CD8+ T cells in 82.8 % and 58.6 % of participants vaccinated at full dose, respectively. The data indicate that the vaccine is safe and induces strong humoral and cellular immune response in up to 100 % of healthy adult volunteers, and provide a rationale for testing efficacy in Phase III trials. Indeed, the strong immune response to the vaccine may elicit long-term protection. This trial was registered with grls.rosminzdrav.ru (No. 495*), and with zakupki.gov.ru (No. 0373100043215000055).

    You do not need 100,000,000 humans to verify the safety and ball park efficacy of a vaccine.   A group of around 100 is good enough.   The only issue with such
    a small group is that variations between Africa and Europe and Asia, etc., may be substantial enough in terms of efficacy.   But

    1) It does not make the vaccine unsafe since the mechanism is the same for all humans.  Either the "castrated" vector viruses are a risk or they are not.

    2) That different people have immune systems that are more or less capable of producing antibodies is not the fault or problem of a vaccine.   It just
    means that they require a different mode of stimulation to get them to produce antibodies.   This sort of immune system efficiency aspect is evident
    in how people fight off the flu.   If their immune system is fast, then it suppresses the flu better since it prevents it intercepts it before it mutates.
    The flu is a moving genetic target for the immune system.

    So the Russian Ebola vaccines are effective and doing the job since if they were not, we would never hear the end of it from the western propaganda orifices.
    That not a single peep is being made about these Russian vaccines says it all.

    The western media has zero credibility in its hate spew about the Russian Covid-19 vaccine. They claim it is unproven but that is BS. Phase I and II trials
    together with the Ebola experience is way more than enough to verify its safety and efficacy. Phase III trials are a sort of pandering to hysterics and
    lawsuit freaks. The US is not the only culture on the planet so its litigation problem has no relevance.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:49 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGqZMIgeyKQ
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    Post  kvs on Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:48 am



    Turns out that Covid-19 hammered the Japanese economy.   A single quarter drop of 7.8% annualized to 27.8%.    

    But all the pro western MSM in Russia and even state media was singing the praises of Japan for having handled
    the pandemic superbly.   Reality demonstrates that praise was all BS.

    By contrast, Russia has had much less economic damage since it never introduced lockdowns like Japan and America.
    Russia responded early to the pandemic by closing off travel from China.   The only reason that the virus made inroads
    later (peaking at around 10,000 infections per day, down to near 4,000 now) was because of all the losers who were
    residing in Europe fleeing home in droves.


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    Post  kvs on Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:00 am

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/andrew-cuomo-responsible-thousands-nursing-home-deaths-doj-trying-find-out

    What blunder? How can sending infected Covid-19 patients to old age homes be a mistake? What happened to all that
    hyper-wealth the USA is supposed to have? Even 3rd world countries would not pull such a move.

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    Post  kvs on Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:08 pm



    It turns out that the UK will not have a Covid-19 before the end of the year in all likelihood. These are the same scumbags who
    lie to the world that Russia "stole" their "formula". Even if such lies are for retards, the ones making them are retards themselves.
    If the Covid-19 vaccine Russia tested in Phase I and II trials was really stolen, the the UK would have passed similar trials with
    its alleged own variant.

    We see the truth clearly here. These lying turds can't even keep up with Russia (and China) in vaccine development. And
    it is not so easy to steal the tech since it is not some stupid Hollywood "formula", but a complex manufacturing process that
    spans the lab to the reproduction of the two types of modified vector viruses.

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    Post  kvs on Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:38 am

    https://thegrayzone.com/2020/08/28/us-sanctions-russian-research-institute-covid-19-vaccine/

    The shitstain yanquis have put sanctions on the research institute that developed the Covid-19 vaccine.

    Sore losers going to sore.

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    Post  GarryB on Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:30 pm

    Does that mean they will refuse to buy any?

    What a bunch of dicks.
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    Post  kvs on Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:02 am

    GarryB wrote:Does that mean they will refuse to buy any?

    What a bunch of dicks.

    By now it is 100% clear that all of this lying, posturing and sanctions are about the profits of Pfizer et al. Big Pharma owns US politicians.

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    Post  GarryB on Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:40 pm

    Must annoy them quite a bit that state run state owned companies in Russia, China, and Cuba are the first to come forward with vaccines...

    Isn't it western propaganda that private companies do everything better and more efficiently?
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    Post  kvs on Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:09 pm

    GarryB wrote:Must annoy them quite a bit that state run state owned companies in Russia, China, and Cuba are the first to come forward with vaccines...

    Isn't it western propaganda that private companies do everything better and more efficiently?

    The prowess of private companies is a western myth. Large corporations can and do have all sorts of inefficiencies such as bureaucracy, corruption
    and lack of the ability to turn on a dime because of inertia. Big Pharma spends around 80% of its revenue on advertisements and lobbying. Research
    is really a secondary activity and a common pattern is to re-release old drugs by doing some token tweaks to their chemistry and filing new patents.
    Patents allow them to gouge with high prices. And I have direct family experience where a generic drug that was allegedly identical to the name brand
    did not work the same way on the family member taking it. So there are shenanigans about unloading old drugs into production by generics. At the end
    of the day it is all about profit and this is the sacred cow of the western capitalism cult. The notion that grubbing for profits produces maximal goodness
    on all fronts. In the real world, it results in corner cutting, corruption and the long term degradation of society. Companies are motivated to sell
    you shit since that maximizes their profits.

    The research institute "companies" developing vaccines in Russia, China and Cuba are following a pure research model. They do not have the
    ludicrous accounting concepts of western corporations. Western companies always treat R&D as a money losing activity in their accounting even
    if it is the basis for their existence. So we have the stellar intellects in management always trying to downsize R&D. The problems in the west
    are systemic and chronic. The happy chirping from CNN et al. about how great things are and how advanced is the west are total crap.



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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:01 am

    Inside view of Vietnam’s Covid second wave

    South Korea losing its grip amid Covid resurgence,

    tightens virus curbs in Seoul region


    Three vaccines are now in Phase 3 trials in the US, and the UK has just announced its candidate for a vaccine is in the works. It may seem like this is taking a while, but experts warn the frustratingly long process is necessary: Several incidents, including a polio vaccine disaster in 1955, show why rushing a vaccine (like people worry the FDA may do) is not only dangerous but erodes public trust in vaccines. And no, herd immunity isn’t an option, experts say, with one estimating 2 million people could die if the US tried to achieve non-vaccine-aided herd immunity to the coronavirus. Meanwhile, the House Select Subcommittee on Coronavirus published eight weeks' worth of state reports on the virus from the White House's task force. They reveal that, while President Trump was painting an optimistic picture of the pandemic fight in July and August, the information he was getting was increasingly dire.





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    Post  kvs on Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:36 am

    The Polio vaccine has no relevance for the Russian technology behind its Ebola, MARS and SARS-COV-2 vaccines. This is an example of technobabble designed
    to confuse the average media consumer sheep. The pathological liars in the UK are behind the curve in terms of vaccine development and being the sore losers
    that they are claim Russia stole their design. Now they are invoking Polio vaccine issues from decades ago as an excuse as to how super duper careful they
    are being. This is more plausibility pap for the ignorant. Even though these clowns know the general layout of the Russian vaccine technology, they can't
    imitate it. Russia should make a big scene to demonstrate to the world that whatever the UK spits out has no serious similarity (aside from being a vaccine
    aimed at the same virus) to the Russian design. The UK should pay a price for its libel and slander.

    It really does look like the UK is trying to rip off Russia's design so it is falling back because copying ain't as easy as the fake stream would have its consumers
    believe.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:24 pm

    Preliminary results from Russian trials find that #COVID19 vaccine candidates led to no serious adverse events and elicit antibody response
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    Safety and immunogenicity of an rAd26 and rAd5 vector-based heterologous prime-boost COVID-19 vaccine in two formulations: two open, non-randomised phase 1/2 studies from Russia

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:56 pm

    A key model predicts the US will see 410,000 Covid-19 deaths by January, less than a year after the coronavirus established itself on American soil. A lot can happen before then, but experts aren’t confident we’ll have a vaccine ready by Election Day. President Trump has repeatedly put pressure on the FDA to furnish a vaccine by then, but doctors say even a highly effective vaccine -- one that could blow through clinical trials -- probably wouldn’t be available until December. Around the world, Brazil has surpassed 4 million coronavirus cases, and New Zealand has recorded its first Covid-19 death in more than three months.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwoutf_8ryY
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    Post  kvs on Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:13 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Preliminary results from Russian trials find that #COVID19 vaccine candidates led to no serious adverse events and elicit antibody response
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhEOdLVWkAAEJU9?format=jpg&name=small


    Safety and immunogenicity of an rAd26 and rAd5 vector-based heterologous prime-boost COVID-19 vaccine in two formulations: two open, non-randomised phase 1/2 studies from Russia

    What do the they know, they are only researchers involved in the development of the vaccine. The NATzO fake stream media obviously knows better. All those high school dropout journalists are vastly
    more qualified than PhD researchers with years of lab experience.

    On a serious note, check out the UK candidate vaccine. It is a single stage design. So Russians stole something that the UK was not producing. What a joke!

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    Post  par far on Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:36 pm

    The UN has just blamed men for this pandemic.
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    Post  kvs on Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:27 pm

    par far wrote:The UN has just blamed men for this pandemic.

    The UN has been hijacked by NATzO and is being used as an imperial control tool. This includes the anti-Russian BS.

    It is time to confront this "soft power" directly. No international organization is legitimate if it is staffed in key positions by
    NATzO citizens. Just like the PC drones in NATzO, I will throw their own ideology back at them: how can 11% of the
    population of the planet account for over 80% of the management positions in international organizations? Fairness
    dictates that NATzO citizens account for no more than 11% of these positions.



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    Post  kvs on Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:16 am

    https://www.rt.com/russia/500158-new-covid19-drug-reduce-mortality/

    A new Russian medicine being used on Covid-19 patients has reduced the mortality rate by up to five times, according to its developer, Oleg Rosenberg, of Surfactant-BL. The drug is most commonly used to treat severe lung lesions.

    Speaking to Moscow newspaper Izvestia, Rosenberg noted that his creation has not only improved the chances of coronavirus patients staying alive, but it has also kept them off ventilators.

    “Patients who are treated with Surfactant are reliably less likely to be transferred to an intensive care unit for mechanical ventilation, and mortality among them is 3-5 times lower,” he said, being careful to clarify that data is still being collected. During the pandemic, 120 patients were treated with the drug.

    Quick, NATzO opportunists, claim it is stolen.

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    Post  Isos on Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:16 am

    kvs wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/500158-new-covid19-drug-reduce-mortality/

    A new Russian medicine being used on Covid-19 patients has reduced the mortality rate by up to five times, according to its developer, Oleg Rosenberg, of Surfactant-BL. The drug is most commonly used to treat severe lung lesions.

    Speaking to Moscow newspaper Izvestia, Rosenberg noted that his creation has not only improved the chances of coronavirus patients staying alive, but it has also kept them off ventilators.

    “Patients who are treated with Surfactant are reliably less likely to be transferred to an intensive care unit for mechanical ventilation, and mortality among them is 3-5 times lower,” he said, being careful to clarify that data is still being collected. During the pandemic, 120 patients were treated with the drug.

    Quick, NATzO opportunists, claim it is stolen.


    The virus was already not that powerfull at the begining as most people were OK after 7 days and no medicine. You could even give them sugar and say it helps while it doesn't really help, it's just the boddy that eliminates the virus.

    Now the virus is even weaker. So any new medicine that "works" can just turn out that it is again the body that eliminates the virus by itself while the medicine does nothing.

    That's hard to determine because most treatement last 7 days and the in most of cases the body needs around 7 days to destroy the virus. So it's quite hard to know if the "treatement" works.

    IMO pharma companies will play on that fact now that there is no need for a vaccination as the virus is much weaker so they coukd sell more "treatements".
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    Post  kvs on Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:23 am

    Isos wrote:
    kvs wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/500158-new-covid19-drug-reduce-mortality/

    A new Russian medicine being used on Covid-19 patients has reduced the mortality rate by up to five times, according to its developer, Oleg Rosenberg, of Surfactant-BL. The drug is most commonly used to treat severe lung lesions.

    Speaking to Moscow newspaper Izvestia, Rosenberg noted that his creation has not only improved the chances of coronavirus patients staying alive, but it has also kept them off ventilators.

    “Patients who are treated with Surfactant are reliably less likely to be transferred to an intensive care unit for mechanical ventilation, and mortality among them is 3-5 times lower,” he said, being careful to clarify that data is still being collected. During the pandemic, 120 patients were treated with the drug.

    Quick, NATzO opportunists, claim it is stolen.


    The virus was already not that powerfull at the begining as most people were OK after 7 days and no medicine. You could even give them sugar and say it helps while it doesn't really help, it's just the boddy that eliminates the virus.

    Now the virus is even weaker. So any new medicine that "works" can just turn out that it is again the body that eliminates the virus by itself while the medicine does nothing.

    That's hard to determine because most treatement last 7 days and the in most of cases the body needs around 7 days to destroy the virus. So it's quite hard to know if the "treatement" works.

    IMO pharma companies will play on that fact now that there is no need for a vaccination as the virus is much weaker so they coukd sell more "treatements".

    You are describing the experience of some 40 year old. This virus hits the elderly hard and for some people with the right genetics the virus is catastrophic much like
    stroptococcus B can result in runaway necrosis (flesh eating disease). The medicine described above is clearly being used for ICU patients and not people who
    do not even have to enter the hospital.

    This drug is an achievement that has nothing to do with the average response to Covid-19.


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