@GarryB I've lived along Russian youngsters for years in China. The fact that they en masse flock to China masquerading as 'Matthew from Minnesota' and 'Kelly from Texas' to illegally teach Chinese kids - thereby risking detention, deportation and forfeiting of funds is a telling sign that the economic situation in Russia ain't all that rosy
There are lots of people running away from lots of countries for lots of different reasons... do you expect a complete picture from such people?
People running away from Saddams regime said all sorts of things about his chem weapons programmes which have since proven to be made up.
I wouldn't believe much from any youngsters from any country let alone ones moving to a foreign country.
People who love their country and succeed generally don't run away and try to start again... more often those that run away feel trapped or unable to develop and progress and think things might be easier in another country... well run away to America and you are a Russian in America... how do you get ahead in America if you complain that things were better in Russia? They don't want to hear that... they want to hear things are terrible in Russia... it would also explain why you left.
Russia is in no position to throw money away on 'humanitarian' projects in Syria.
I never said otherwise, but they have several air bases and their main naval port for the Med in Syria and that makes it worth the fight... the role of the Russian military is to fight the enemies of Russia and the enemies of Russia are amongst the enemies of the Syrian government forces so it makes sense to remain and to fight.
With withdrawal I don't mean abandoning all bases (some of which have been manned since the time of the USSR), I mean withdrawing from the actual theatre of war and working out a solution that (might) involve the de facto break up of Syria
I doubt the Syrian people would be happy to give up so much land to criminal elements. As Syria gets stronger and the opponents give up... Saudi Arabia seems to be changing its position now too and as a major supporter of ISIS this will come as a huge blow to their opposition.
As Russia and Assads forces targets oil revenue their enemies will be starved and it will only be a matter of time for the US to be interested in this conflict if it does not generate income like the poppy fields in Afghanistan or the oil fields in Iraq and Syria.
What if the Americans, the French (are they still there?) and the Turks don't want to leave?
I am sure they don't want to leave... but the Americans and French didn't want to leave Vietnam either... it is just a case of finding the right button and pushing it and offering them an alternative deal.
Is Russia going to go to war with them over Syrian sovereignty?
Russian goals to return Syria to a decent level is viewed with contempt by the west, because they have no intention of investing anything into the areas their surrogates control... why waste money on goat herders?
By that logic none of the other players - America, Turkey, Iran, etc. are in any position to exert tremendous blood and treasure in that quagmire either - and yet all of these countries have much worse internal situation than the one Russia is in but its Russia that has to fold - why?
Good question... the suggestion that America can afford it means nothing... because they clearly can't... and Turkey is in a much worse situation too.
The thing is as long as it costs them even more then Russia should absolutely keep this whole thing going.
The value of the situation in Syria for testing equipment and tactics and new weapons is enormous and is a rather efficient final testing ground for a lot of new systems. They are approaching a point where all new Drones with all new custom designed weapons for Drones are going to be tested and evaluated as a lot cost replacement for manned aircraft in a lot of roles to make things even cheaper.... the revenue in exports of such systems essentially pay for the war on their own.
Sales of combat proven air defence systems that were tested by Israeli F-35s and US F-22s and standoff weapons and drones of all types is invaluable too... before they could say this should be effective... or it has been effective in tests... but now they can show videos and produce proof of the effectiveness of these systems in their hands and in Syrian hands.
And how do these metrics prove that the average Russian has money to spend on 'humanitarian' missions abroad
Syria is a military anti terrorist mission.
The chance to sell out Syria was when the Saudis offered Russia billions of dollars and Russia refused.
Very true. The Saudis supported ISIS forces and offered to buy hundreds of billions of dollars of Russian weapons including SAMs and air defence systems and radar as well as Iskander missiles and other equipment... but clearly only if Russia stayed out of Syria...
Maintaining a small military base in a geographically relevant area does not equal fighting and endless insurgency somewhere in the desert
Do you understand using special forces to infiltrate terrorist areas and drones and satellites and air power to find and engage targets and also support Syrian government forces is not the same as what the Soviets were doing in Afghanistan or the US was doing in Vietnam?
but can and must not in any way engage in needless wars of attrition that can be turned on and off by foreign agitators that have a combined GDP 100 times the size of Russia's, have power over the world reserve currency and can create money at will
What war of attrition?
Russia is using cheap dumb iron bombs from altitudes totally safe from MANPADS and ground based gunfire with a navigation and attack system that offers near guided weapon accuracy.
Such attacks are accurate enough to be effective and cheap enough to continue for very long terms.
New unmanned drones with new weapons specifically designed for use with drones should make such strikes more effective and cheaper and able to be conducted essentially continuously.
New artillery rounds are being introduced with enormous range and guided accuracy that should allow point targets to be engaged at enormous range fairly cheaply.
Bunch of hypocrites on top of that. Half of the membership here is Russians living abroad. Just pack your bags and go back to Russia if its such a great economy. Strangely enough it's always roundtrips though.
Half the membership? I would say the vast majority of the membership are westerners in the west... the purpose of the website is to educate westerners about the real Russia rather than what is portrayed in western media or western government departments.
The bunch of you are much alike low IQ muzzies. All talk about how bad it is but too much of a cuck to actually say goodbye to comfort and hedonism and start building up your own country.
I appreciate that Mike and some others have not been particularly nice, but careful where you direct your response there sunshine.
As for Russians living abroad, the moment they'd offer visa free travel half the Russian youth would be bunking three high in London and Berlin. You really aren't any different from the Poles, Bulgarians or Ukrainians. The fact that Russian girls are still hooking up with ugly greasy Westerners (or Chinese for that matter) says a lot.
I am a big fan of Russia/Putin and see it as one of the last bastions of normalcy, tradition and the natural /divine order but you guys should really get rid of the siege mentality and the fan boy-ism. You sound like a scorned woman when called fat.
Russia is collapsing so why are you a big fan of Putin and Russia?
Unless you are wrong, so why are you calling us pathetic for correcting your idea that Russia needs to leave Syria soon or Russia will collapse because they can't afford to be nice to other countries like the wonderful big hearted western countries are... look at all the countries they have saved afterall... Haiti is a utopia isn't it?
Asia is the place to be. Singapore, Japan, Malaysia, China, even CBDs in places like Manila, Saigon and Bangkok have many sharply dressed White business guys walking around these days
Ironic that western white guys in suits are going to such places their own countries have done so much to keep under the thumb and on a leash... but now such places are growing and expanding how long before the US and the EU turn their attentions to limit growth and ensure obedience to the west.
The future is in Asia and Russia is nicely placed to be part of it and benefit from it.
There is money in Asia and Europe wants to trade with Asia... the purpose of the North Sea Route is for trade between those two regions that reduced the transport times by 14 days and eliminates delays created by canal traffic and of course costs.
Rail links across Russia to the EU should also be factored in because there are fewer borders to cross...
You ranking lists India in its top 5. I can't take that as a serious metric. People that have been to India will understand.
Move outside a city in most countries and you will see a different world... there will be rural places in China where the idea of the 20th century is a dream let alone the 21st C...
There's not a lot of big dick energy going on in this thread. I guess the Russian economy is a sensitive point to posters here. I get it, lots of propaganda and all that, but it sure does feel a bit like an inferiority complex to be honest.
It is the most used weapon of the west... don't cry to us because it isn't working here.
I will refrain from further posting. Good luck with your fundamentalist view on geopolitics. I can only hope Putin has a bit more sense in his thinking. Biden is now 1. 5 months into office and the Ukraine is ready to explode, Syria can be stirred up at anytime, Armenia is a mess, Belarus has turned into a money pit and the Stans could get messy too
Biden is the invisible man... how many addresses has he made to the American public in almost two months in office... Ukraine is a joke... the Ukrainian military is a joke and is more likely to collapse that do anything to worry Russia. Syria stirred up offers Russia more potential to kill more terrorists, and Armenia is currently under control. Belarus needs to decide for itself, and the Stans are lost to Russia already no matter which way they turn it wont matter that much.
Biden administration continues the US policy of sending convoys full of military equipment and supplies to Syria, and smuggling out oil despite Pentagon denials.
Sounds like they need to target such convoys...