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    Comparison between Russian, US and Chinese Naval fleets.

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    Post  jhelb on Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:21 pm

    GarryB wrote:their latest aircraft carrier can only carry aircraft and not actually deploy them so it is more like a container ship than anything else.

    Not deploy them why? Meaning the F-18 Super Hornets and F-35s are unable to take off from this carrier?
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:51 am

    Not deploy them why? Meaning the F-18 Super Hornets and F-35s are unable to take off from this carrier?

    The EMALS is not working AFAIK so the model F-35 they use (cat launched) and the F-18 they use (also cat launched) can't be operated from the newest Ford class CVN despite its cost of 13 billion and counting.



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    Post  George1 on Sat Feb 29, 2020 11:37 pm

    Statistics: Top 12 Navy's leading naval powers on 01/01/2020

    1.USA
    2.China
    3.Russia

    https://navy-korabel.livejournal.com/229568.html
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:22 pm

    US navy is there to control any country it can control, not giving a shit about stronger countries because they can't sustain losing ships against them. That's why they have no idea how to counter China in Chinese sea.
    They r going to give the Army AShMs & place them on some Okinawan Islands, & give the AF more missions against the PLAN & the mainland.
    The U.S. Navy and other foreign navies still sail near the Chinese mainland. But they avoid overt shows of force that would increase the risk of clashes with modern Chinese warships and submarines. Retired U.S. Navy carrier-fleet officers say that in recent years the Pentagon has also avoided sending carriers to the Yellow Sea between the Korean Peninsula and the Chinese mainland, amid repeated Chinese warnings. An example of China's determination to control its near waters came this month, when a French warship passed through the Taiwan Strait. After the April 6 transit of the frigate Vendemiaire, China informed Paris that France was no longer welcome to attend celebrations last week to mark the 70th anniversary of the founding of the Chinese communist navy, U.S. officials told Reuters.
    Veteran U.S. Navy officers predict any serious conflict with China off its coast would be bloody. The United States and its allies would risk heavy losses and possible defeat, they say.
    This type of conflict would be vastly different from the wars the United States has been fighting in the Middle East and Afghanistan. There, America enjoyed unchallenged air and sea superiority and unimpeded logistics, said Gary Roughead, co-chairman of a 2018 review of the Trump administration's defense strategy. Today, heavy damage to or losses of American warships or major bases is a real but underappreciated possibility for the United States in a conflict with China, said Roughead, the former Chief of Naval Operations, the top job in the U.S. Navy. “We have not thought about the significant capital losses that will occur – and the American people not being prepared for that,” he said in an interview with Reuters. “Those are significant factors in the win-loss equation.” ..
    when it comes to dominating its near seas, China doesn’t need to match the U.S. ship-for-ship. The U.S. Navy is a globe-spanning force with offshore bases and multiple missions, including supporting Middle East operations, bolstering European allies, countering Russia’s naval revival and safeguarding global shipping routes. To do this job, the U.S. Navy has to dominate virtually all the world’s oceans.
    In contrast, the entire Chinese fleet is based on the mainland coast. This means it has the advantage of being the home team. Without major global military responsibilities, the PLA navy can concentrate virtually all its forces in its coastal waters, flooding the zone inside what Beijing refers to as “the first island chain”: the arc that runs through the nearby major islands of the Japanese archipelago, Taiwan, the Philippines and Borneo.
    In a conflict in these near seas, the Chinese mainland would function as a vast, unsinkable aircraft carrier. China’s warships would be close to logistical support and the firepower of land-based missiles and strike aircraft. These forces would seek to overwhelm enemy warships with volleys of missiles and torpedoes from multiple directions, U.S. and Chinese military analysts say.

    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/china-army-navy/

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