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    Post  kvs on Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:09 pm



    Snake oil shyster Elon Musk made a big PR stink about supplying America with respirators. That effort has been
    a total fail aside from the 40 units he bought from China and handed over to some hospitals. Meanwhile 30
    countries want Russian produced ventilators. Russia is ramping up production from hundreds in April to thousands
    in May. I am sure the number of countries with demand can be higher except for posturing "twatism" practiced by
    yanqui vassals.

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    Post  nomadski on Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:39 pm

    There were attempts, to manufacture simplified respirators, that could be made in very large numbers. Using  off the shelf parts. A design that is good enough. To save lives. Does anyone in biomedicine, know what is needed ? And how to put one together? Something that could be made in millions of units, very quickly? Cheap units for all of the world?


    I was thinking about the need to wear masks that are airtight. Can a plastic or Rubber tube be used to mould to one's face? One that can clip and hold most fabric face masks.? Any ideas.? Nothing wrong with the mask fabric. Problem is ergonomic airtight seal with wearer face.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:23 pm

    kvs wrote:

    The former Warsaw Pact countries had anti-tuberculosis vaccine program that appears to have dramatically reduced
    the Covid-19 progression rate.   In the initial stages of infection the rate of new cases and deaths is around ten times
    less in countries which had the BCG vaccine program.    A difference can be seen between East and West Germany.

    The above is the conclusion of a Texas University based immunology research team.   These results were published
    in the Irish Times.  

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/tuberculosis-vaccine-potential-game-changer-in-covid-19-fight-1.4220383


    It should be added that the anti-viral drugs from Cuba have been highly praised by their trial-by-fire against Covid-19 as well. It's even been suggest that the Cubans will become a biomedical world power-broker after this crisis.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:25 pm

    The New York Times are shitting the bed, they're saying the failure of Covid-19 measures in the US and elsewhere is because of VVP and the Federation... Razz Embarassed

    https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1249735262948798466

    https://twitter.com/AliAbunimah/status/1249699352844566528

    Sorry The New York Slimes, the failure of Covid-19 measures in NYC are because of the mental-midget Nomen Klatura like the ones that run your toilet-paper rag.
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    Post  kvs on Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:32 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:The New York Times are shitting the bed, they're saying the failure of Covid-19 measures in the US and elsewhere is because of VVP and the Federation... Razz Embarassed

    https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1249735262948798466

    https://twitter.com/AliAbunimah/status/1249699352844566528

    Preaching to the choir is not going to take the yanqui elites anywhere. Are they losing the choir that they need to preach to it?

    This transparent excrement propaganda will only alienate Russians further. Western losers always make an enemy out of Russia
    and then think it will roll over and play dead. Instead it hands their asses back to them on a platter. Yanqui "exceptionalism"
    is going to be as robust as the 4th Reich.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:40 pm

    Sweden is small by population & has 1 of the highest life expectancy in the World; most of the deaths from the virus r among  the elderly. Is it better to shut down her economy & make life harder for all to save their lives so they can enjoy it a few more months/years?

    https://eurasianet.org/infodemic-infects-chinese-russian-relations

    https://regnum.ru/news/society/2915310.html

    https://regnum.ru/news/society/2915291.html

    https://www.pravdareport.com/world/144483-covid_american/

    https://www.pravdareport.com/world/144482-covid_biological_weapon/

    https://iz.ru/998321/mariia-vasileva/stroiat-plany-kak-narkotorgovtcy-latinskoi-ameriki-perezhivaiut-covid-19


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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:10 am

    Manufacturers of antiseptic agents in Russia from the beginning of March 2020 increased the volume of production by six times, from 50 thousand to 300 thousand liters per day.

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/131791/
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    Post  kvs on Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:49 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Sweden is small by population & has 1 of the highest life expectancy in the World; most of the deaths from the virus r among  the elderly. Is it better to shut down her economy & make life harder for all to save their lives so they can enjoy it a few more months/years?

    https://eurasianet.org/infodemic-infects-chinese-russian-relations

    https://regnum.ru/news/society/2915310.html

    https://regnum.ru/news/society/2915291.html

    https://www.pravdareport.com/world/144483-covid_american/

    https://www.pravdareport.com/world/144482-covid_biological_weapon/

    https://iz.ru/998321/mariia-vasileva/stroiat-plany-kak-narkotorgovtcy-latinskoi-ameriki-perezhivaiut-covid-19

    BS. You are engaging in apologia for an incompetent, money pinching response to a pandemic. Your BS generalization
    that it is "mostly the elderly that are dying" is the sort of "it's just the flu" comment that represents the PC brain rot
    thinking afflicting the west. You can't deny that Sweden has more deaths per capita than the rest of Scandinavia
    so you resort to hand waving about some mythical high standard of living in this country.

    Clearly the Swedish tax-funded health care system is a total fail. Telling people to stay at home and recover is a cheap
    ploy to defer costs. If this is such a rich country, then why act as if it is poor. Of course, because it is poor in
    all the metrics that matter. And the Sweden of the 1980s is long gone, in case you didn't know. It went on a
    neo-liberal reform binge from the 1990s. Most of the perceptions of Sweden today are outdated.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:29 am

    Then, perhaps they r not yet sure that what others r doing should be followed by them. Their demographics r different from W. Europe, RF, USA, Korea & the PRC.
    They may also think that after it's over, the strongest will survive to resist future epidemics.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o2itl1rARs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKD25397CZQ

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/fauci-cautiously-sees-us-reopening-starting-may/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=924db39efc-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_04_13_09_52&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-924db39efc-31607385&mc_cid=924db39efc&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/say-a-prayer-for-lockdown-victims-in-the-philippines/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=924db39efc-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_04_13_09_52&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-924db39efc-31607385&mc_cid=924db39efc&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/inside-tokyos-lockdown-lite/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=924db39efc-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_04_13_09_52&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-924db39efc-31607385&mc_cid=924db39efc&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/saving-human-cells-fujifilms-avigan-kills-virus/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=924db39efc-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_04_13_09_52&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-924db39efc-31607385&mc_cid=924db39efc&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdfSJabF2NI


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    Post  GarryB on Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:22 am


    I was thinking about the need to wear masks that are airtight. Can a plastic or Rubber tube be used to mould to one's face? One that can clip and hold most fabric face masks.? Any ideas.? Nothing wrong with the mask fabric. Problem is ergonomic airtight seal with wearer face.

    If you make it air tight the wearer will suffocate unless it is attached to an oxygen supply.

    Honestly if you really want to protect yourself from the virus you need to protect your eyes as much as your nose and mouth... I would say get a full face motorcycle helmet and that will protect your eyes and nose and mouth from other people coughing... it is much easier to wipe down with strong disinfectents so you can keep it clean with a few wipes in your pocket and some meths or petrol or pure alcohol.

    The purpose of masks is to stop giving it to someone else or to prevent someone else from giving it to you and the normal way people seem to get it is to get it on their hands and then wipe their eyes or nose with infected material on their hands.

    With a full face motorcycle helmet on you have to raise the visor to rub your eyes so get out the disinfectant and wipe your hands and the visor before you raise the visor to rub your face and you should be fine.
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    Post  The-thing-next-door on Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:02 pm

    nomadski wrote:There were attempts, to manufacture simplified respirators, that could be made in very large numbers. Using  off the shelf parts. A design that is good enough. To save lives. Does anyone in biomedicine, know what is needed ? And how to put one together? Something that could be made in millions of units, very quickly? Cheap units for all of the world?


    I was thinking about the need to wear masks that are airtight. Can a plastic or Rubber tube be used to mould to one's face? One that can clip and hold most fabric face masks.? Any ideas.? Nothing wrong with the mask fabric. Problem is ergonomic airtight seal with wearer face.

    Simply get a hooded raincoat and full face visor, that is all you really need for general expeditions outside your house.

    As the virus spreads primarily through coughing and exhaling simply breaking line of sight betwene your eyes, nose, mouth and other people should keep you relatively safe. However I am not too sure about weather or not the virus can float around in the air for long enough to require the use of a full hazmat suit in infected areas, as such my prior advice should be considered olny as providing a decreased likelyhood infection as opposed to complete protection against infection.

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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:31 pm

    GarryB wrote:

    I was thinking about the need to wear masks that are airtight. Can a plastic or Rubber tube be used to mould to one's face? One that can clip and hold most fabric face masks.? Any ideas.? Nothing wrong with the mask fabric. Problem is ergonomic airtight seal with wearer face.

    If you make it air tight the wearer will suffocate unless it is attached to an oxygen supply.

    The masks are not airtight, you breathe through them and some have a one way valve to make exhaling easier. The possible problem is the perimeter seal and the easiest was to overcome that is to use what is known generally as 'boob tape', that is a skin safe double sided tape.
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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:36 pm

    Following the comments by the-thing-next-door above, I put this up on my Facebook page 14 days ago, the date is relevant Smile

    I thought that I would upgrade my anti virus protection.

    This is me in the supermarket this morning. Bit hot inside but it did the job. Don't know why I got so many strange looks, seemed natural step forward to me.



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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:39 pm

    Ministry of Foreign Affairs
    Flag of Poland
    @PolandMFA
    ·
    22h
    The world's largest cargo plane, the An-225 Mriya, has taken off with 76 tons of protective suits, 11 tons of face shields and 9 tons of masks on board.

    More than 1050 m3 of security equipment ordered in
    Flag of China
    by @kghm_sa
    and @GrupaLOTOS
    will land tomorrow in
    Flag of Poland

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    Post  kvs on Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:58 pm



    Contrast: in Russia the MOD is building permanent and high tech infectious disease hospital facilities on a large scale,
    in the USA the mass burial corps are getting training. No this is not cherry picking exaggeration. The US MOD is
    doing precisely f*ck all to actually help Covid-19 patients. I guess getting rid of the bodies produced by the failed
    medical system is a help, but is pathetic nonetheless.

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    Post  Regular on Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:34 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Following the comments by the-thing-next-door above, I put this up on my Facebook page 14 days ago, the date is relevant Smile

    I thought that I would upgrade my anti virus protection.

    This is me in the supermarket this morning. Bit hot inside but it did the job. Don't know why I got so many strange looks, seemed natural step forward to me.



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    Nice kit, opinions of other people shouldn't matter.

    I rarely get out, but I do work as in essential business here. I had to downgrade due to raising temperatures as I had biohazard gown before, but the heat would kill me quicker that corona. I also wear ratnik leather gloves and fake oakleys with plastic liner and I use shooting earplugs. I have family members sick with corona who came back from UK and I take care of vulnerable person so I can't take any chances. Main thing is to decontaminate yourself before entering your home.


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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:28 pm

    Pro-US coup govt. in Ecuador's pathetic mishandling of Covid-19 is something out of a post-apocalyptic movie:

    Corpses lying everywhere in the street, absolutely pathetic!

    https://twitter.com/Garou_Hidalgo/status/1249458001485991942

    Massive lines to bury the dead:

    https://twitter.com/Garou_Hidalgo/status/1249459497250304003

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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:21 pm

    Regular wrote:

    Nice kit, opinions of other people shouldn't matter.

    I rarely get out, but I do work as in essential business here. I had to downgrade due to raising temperatures as I had biohazard gown before, but the heat would kill me quicker that corona. I also wear ratnik leather gloves and fake oakleys with plastic liner and I use shooting earplugs. I have family members sick with corona who came back from UK and I take care of vulnerable person so I can't take any chances. Main thing is to decontaminate yourself before entering your home.
    14 days ago was April 1 cheers

    I have a 10g ozone machine that sits in my entrance hall and basically zaps for 10 minutes anything that comes in the house as it comes in. That includes masks, gloves, jackets, shoes plus any post, parcels and food outer covering. It kills all viruses and bacteria, as well as me if I gave it the chance. I also take it into the car and kill the inside of that as well. Cost about £50 via ebay in the UK.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:29 pm

    https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-corps-of-engineers-hospitals-coronavirus

    https://www.voanews.com/science-health/coronavirus-outbreak/us-army-hard-pressed-build-temporary-hospitals-covid-19-peak

    Railroad cars, old buses, house trailers & shipping containers can also be converted to house patients.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/05/asia/indian-railways-coronavirus-hospitals-intl-hnk/index.html



    https://nypost.com/2020/04/13/virginia-pastor-who-held-packed-church-service-dies-of-coronavirus/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/us/coronavirus-updates-usa.html

    Pl. some1 copy & paste this article, I have an ad blocker:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211291/U-S-government-gave-3-7million-grant-Wuhan-lab-experimented-coronavirus-source-bats.html


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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:47 pm

    Here you are, without pictures

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    Pl. some1 copy & paste this article, I have an ad blocker:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211291/U-S-government-gave-3-7million-grant-Wuhan-lab-experimented-coronavirus-source-bats.html

    REVEALED: U.S. government gave $3.7million grant to Wuhan lab at center of coronavirus leak scrutiny that was performing experiments on bats from the caves where the disease is believed to have originated

    The US National Institutes of Health, a government agency, awarded a $3.7million research grant to the Wuhan Institute of Virology
    The lab is the center of several conspiracy theories that suggest it is the original source of the coronavirus outbreak
    The institute experimented on bats from the source of the coronavirus
    They were captured more than 1,000 miles away in Yunnan
    Sequencing of the Covid-19 genome has traced it to bats to Yunnan's caves
    The U.S. government funded research on coronavirus transmission in the lab over the past decade
    Learn more about how to help people impacted by COVID

    By Frances Mulraney and Glenn Owen For The Mail On Sunday

    Published: 01:49, 12 April 2020 | Updated: 05:21, 12 April 2020

    The Chinese laboratory at the center of scrutiny over a potential coronavirus leak has been using U.S. government money to carry out research on bats from the caves which scientists believe are the original source of the deadly outbreak.

    The Wuhan Institute of Virology undertook coronavirus experiments on mammals captured more than 1,000 miles away in Yunnan which were funded by a $3.7 million grant from the US government. Sequencing of the COVID-19 genome has traced it back to bats found in Yunnan caves but it was first thought to have transferred to humans at an animal market in Wuhan.

    The revelation that the Wuhan Institute was experimenting on bats from the area already known to be the source of COVID-19 - and doing so with American money - has sparked further fears that the lab, and not the market, is the original outbreak source.

    Lawmakers and pressure groups were quick to hit out at U.S. funding being provided for the 'dangerous and cruel animal experiments at the Wuhan Institute'.

    The institute is located only 20 miles from the food market where it was originally believed that the outbreak began. Experts continue to say the virus was transmitted from animal to human and was not lab engineered in China as some conspiracy theories have claimed. The institute is located only 20 miles from the food market where it was originally believed that the outbreak began. Experts continue to say the virus was transmitted from animal to human and was not lab engineered in China as some conspiracy theories have claimed

    US Congressman Matt Gaetz said: 'I'm disgusted to learn that for years the US government has been funding dangerous and cruel animal experiments at the Wuhan Institute, which may have contributed to the global spread of coronavirus, and research at other labs in China that have virtually no oversight from US authorities.'

    On Saturday, Anthony Bellotti, president of the US pressure group White Coat Waste, condemned his government for spending tax dollars in China, adding: 'Animals infected with viruses or otherwise sickened and abused in Chinese labs reportedly may be sold to wet markets for consumption once experiments are done.'

    The $37million Wuhan Institute of Virology, the most advanced laboratory of its type on the Chinese mainland, is based twenty miles from the now infamous wildlife market that was thought to be the location of the original transfer of the virus from animals to humans. According to documents obtained by The Mail on Sunday, scientists there experimented on bats as part of a project funded by the US National Institutes of Health, which continues to licence the Wuhan laboratory to receive American money for experiments.

    The NIH is the primary agency of the United States government responsible for biomedical and public health research. The Wuhan Institute lists them on their website as a partner as well as several other American academic institutions. Other U.S. partners include the University of Alabama, the University of North Texas, Harvard University, and the National Wildlife Federation. As part of the NIH research at the institute, scientists grew a coronavirus in a lab and injected it into three-day-old piglets.

    The news that COVID-19 bats were under research there means that a leak from the Wuhan laboratory can no longer be completely ruled out. According to one unverified claim, scientists at the institute could have become infected after being sprayed with blood containing the virus, and then passed it on to the local community.

    A second institute in the city, the Wuhan Centre for Disease Control – which is barely three miles from the market – is also believed to have carried out experiments on animals such as bats to examine the transmission of coronaviruses.

    The Wuhan Institute, which keeps more than 1,500 strains of deadly viruses, specializes in the research of 'the most dangerous pathogens', in particular the viruses carried by bats. Chinese officials decided to build the institute after the country was ravaged by an outbreak of SARS in 2002 and 2003.

    SARS, another kind of coronavirus, killed 775 people and infected more than 8,000 globally in an epidemic. Bats have been linked with seven major epidemics over the past three decades

    Bats have been linked with seven major epidemics over the past three decades

    Since an outbreak of the novel coronavirus emerged in the city in December, it has been at the center of conspiracy theories which suggest that the bug originated there. While scientists believe that the virus jumped to humans from wild animals sold as food in a market in Wuhan, conspiracy theorists promote different assumptions. Some of them claim that the virus, formally known as SARS-CoV-2, could be a biological warfare weapon engineered there. Others suspect that it escaped from the lab.

    China has repeatedly denied the allegations.

    Shi Zhengli, a deputy director of the institute, told the press in February that she 'guaranteed with her own life' that the outbreak was not related to the lab. She admits that when summoned back from a conference to investigate the new disease, she wondered at first if a coronavirus could have escaped from her unit. She has warned about the danger of epidemics from bat-borne viruses. But she says she did not expect such an outbreak in Wuhan, in the center of China, since her studies suggested subtropical areas in the south had the highest risk of such 'zoonotic' transmission to humans. Shi told the respected science journal Scientific American last month of her relief when, having checked back through disposal records, none of the genome sequences matched their virus samples. 'That really took a load off my mind. I had not slept a wink for days,' she said.

    Many international experts have also dismissed such theories.

    Dr Keusch, Professor of Medicine and International Health at Boston University's Schools of Medicine and Public Health, stressed that no release of viruses from a high-level lab, such as the one in Wuhan, 'has ever happened'. He defended his peers in the Chinese city as he said: 'The Wuhan lab is designed to the highest standards with redundant safety systems and the highest level of training. 'Many of its research faculty trained at a similar laboratory in Galveston, Texas. So we know the Wuhan team is as qualified as the Texas group… 'This means the assertion of a leak, rather than being highly likely, instead is highly unlikely.'

    Last week, further doubt was cast on the animal market theory, however, after Cao Bin, a doctor at the Wuhan Jinyintan Hospital, highlighted research showing that 13 of the first 41 patients diagnosed with the infection had not had any contact with the market. 'It seems clear that the seafood market is not the only origin of the virus,' he said.

    American biosecurity expert Professor Richard Ebright, of Rutgers University's Waksman Institute of Microbiology, New Jersey, said that while the evidence suggests COVID-19 was not created in one of the Wuhan laboratories, it could easily have escaped from there while it was being analyzed.

    Prof Ebright said he has seen evidence that scientists at the Centre for Disease Control and the Institute of Virology studied the viruses with only 'level 2' security – rather than the recommended level 4 – which 'provides only minimal protections against infection of lab workers'. He added: 'Virus collection, culture, isolation, or animal infection would pose a substantial risk of infection of a lab worker, and from the lab worker then the public.' He concluded that the evidence left 'a basis to rule out [that coronavirus is] a lab construct, but no basis to rule out a lab accident'.

    Results of the U.S-funded research at the Wuhan Institute were published in November 2017 under the heading: 'Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus.' The exercise was summarized as: 'Bats in a cave in Yunnan, China were captured and sampled for coronaviruses used for lab experiments. 'All sampling procedures were performed by veterinarians with approval from the Animal Ethics Committee of the Wuhan Institute of Virology. 'Bat samplings were conducted ten times from April 2011 to October 2015 at different seasons in their natural habitat at a single location (cave) in Kunming, Yunnan Province, China. Bats were trapped and faecal swab samples were collected.'

    Another study, published in April 2018, was titled 'fatal swine acute diarrhoea syndrome caused by an HKU2-related coronavirus of bat origin' and described the research as such: 'Following a 2016 bat-related coronavirus outbreak on Chinese pig farms, bats were captured in a cave and samples were taken.

    Experimenters grew the virus in a lab and injected it into three-day-old piglets. Intestinal samples from sick piglets were ground up and fed to other piglets as well.

    The coronavirus pandemic has killed more than 108,000 people and infected over 1.7 million worldwide.'

    On Saturday, the American outbreak became the deadliest in the world over 2,000 deaths in a day. The national deaths toll is 20,087 and there are 522,643 confirmed cases as of Saturday evening.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:29 pm

    As I suspected, both the US & PRC r to be blamed. W/o the US funding, the virus wouldn't be there. They didn't want to do any extra & dangerous research in the US; if China & Russia were the targets, it's a lot more feasible to have it done there. Any epidemics could then be blamed on them.



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    Post  andalusia on Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:29 pm

    Surprising, I thought Russia had this under control: https://www.yahoo.com/news/putins-bleak-covid-19-admission-122708635.html
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    Post  Regular on Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:57 pm

    andalusia wrote:Surprising, I thought Russia had this under control: https://www.yahoo.com/news/putins-bleak-covid-19-admission-122708635.html

    It depends on what you call "under control". If Russia doesn't have it under control, then I am afraid to admit- not even single non-Asian country has it.

    Our economies and health services were not prepared - this is very much true.
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    Post  kvs on Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:15 pm

    andalusia wrote:Surprising, I thought Russia had this under control: https://www.yahoo.com/news/putins-bleak-covid-19-admission-122708635.html

    Retards don't understand exponential functions. First they bitch that Russia does not have enough cases based
    on its population size totally missing the fact that any infection has a finite spin up time and the total population
    only matters in steady state or at the end of the pandemic. Then they bitch that Russia is seeing large increases.
    Actually, those increases are small compared to similar stages of progression in the USA and other "superior"
    countries.

    Then we have the issue of the over 180,000 Russians who moved back to Russia in the last two months. They
    are the prime source of the cases. That is because they were for the most part irresponsible and treated
    Covid-19 as just another flu.

    This pathetic NATzO propaganda trying to paint Russia as Putin is for drooling idiots which make up the majority
    of NATzO citizens.

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    Post  kvs on Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:17 pm

    Regular wrote:
    andalusia wrote:Surprising, I thought Russia had this under control: https://www.yahoo.com/news/putins-bleak-covid-19-admission-122708635.html

    It depends on what you call "under control". If Russia doesn't have it under control, then I am afraid to admit- not even single non-Asian country has it.

    Our economies and health services were not prepared - this is very much true.

    Nobody bothers to engage their own brain and study the data at

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    Comparative analysis of Russia to Italy, Spain, France, UK, and the USA should give a lot of useful context.

    Instead we have chicken little BS about how the sky is falling. From clowns who clearly fumbled the response
    to Covid-19, unlike Russia.


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