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    Development Projects of Russia: Industry, Energy and Infastructure

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    Post  lancelot Thu Jul 01, 2021 2:34 am

    Wind power is typically higher in the early morning and late afternoon. When there is a temperature difference the wind picks up.
    Solar power is typically higher at noon or around that time.
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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:37 am

    Solar is less effective in higher temperatures, which I find actually funny.
    Cool&sunny is the best combination.
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    Post  kvs Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:45 pm

    lancelot wrote:Wind power is typically higher in the early morning and late afternoon. When there is a temperature difference the wind picks up.
    Solar power is typically higher at noon or around that time.

    Wind generation like solar is totally useless to provide base load power. Denmark dumps its variable wind power into the EU grid and
    buys back stable base load power (https://www.worldometers.info/electricity/denmark-electricity/). This issue is what limits propagation
    of alt-energy in Russia. It needs power stations like the small nuclear one shown in Flamming's post. There is no dense grid of
    electrical power in Russia to use as a buffer for variable power generation like the case with Denmark and the EU grid. The Russian
    grid is already powered by large nuclear, hydro and other power plants.

    https://lignite.gr/OPET/CFF/WP3/WP3_Annex_3_11.pdf

    Russia has 25 coal power plants with 29.3 GW of combined production. These should ideally be replaced with nuclear plants instead of a
    bunch of solar and wind farms scattered all over the place.

    The other major fossil fuel power plants in Russia operate on natural gas. It is better to upgrade them to combined cycle turbines instead of
    shutting them down. The US and Europe are moving away from coal to natural gas. Not to solar and wind. If natural gas is still not
    good enough, then nuclear power should be the choice for replacement. Variable solar and wind will remain boutique energy sources that
    merely supplement other forms of power generation. They are not replacements.

    Russia is making the right choices with the small format nuclear power stations such as the floating one and the planned similar ones
    based on land. These small scale local systems are the worst case scenario for solar and wind.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:55 pm

    We need to get one point straight just at the beginning.
    It is simply impossible to build a close circuit grid for a country the size of Russia.
    kvs is addressing the Denmark case, which is very good as an example. The Baltic Paper Tigers would be another perfect example.
    They are so tiny, that can be connected to the global, or regional grid, at several points of connection.
    That makes it possible to transfer the energy just the way they wish and need it.
    They can sell all the "green" energy they generate because always can buy a cheap one from France, that runs atomic.
    They are selling it to the shadow cats like Google or Amazon, who can state then how progressive and eco they are.
    You can stream the films with cats all day long, my dear American 200lbs beauty, it is all fine, we are eco here! Go and masturbate your Prius, you are both so charming.

    This is how the Russian electric grid looked like in 2002 :

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    Sure it is vastly improved in the last 20 years, but mostly due to new regional needs and technical base.
    As you noticed, there are several separate systems along the Syberia and the Far East, as connecting them to the whole system would require enormous assets to both build&maintain.

    That is why these small, adjustable nuclear energy sources that Rosatom pushing forward, are the perfect solution. You can build an energy cluster at any moment and in any place you need. You can park a floating NPP just next to the resources you need to extract, connect the cable, and that is it. Just turn on the light.

    As the opposite side has no bloody idea how to build an NPP and doesn't go bankrupt in the meantime, they will do all that crazy voodoo dancing.
    Let them be.
    They are actually quite funny, with those torches sticked straight up their asses.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Jul 02, 2021 3:42 pm

    Solar panels are most efficient when kept cooled which makes them ideal for use in many places in Russia, but the point is that solar panel technology is only going to get better... for all we know they might make some breakthrough where they start to generate electricity from energy outside of the visible light spectrum.... gamma waves coming in from space or something... so that they start working 24/7 and actually work better at night for instance.

    The point is that while the power generation is wildly variable you can use it at mass peak times to store energy in batteries or waterfalls or even turn water into hydrogen gas so it can be retrieved by fuel cells.

    And solar and wind are not the only sources of energy, there is wave and tide and indeed just flowing river methods of generating energy too... the advantage of wind and solar is that they are relatively portable and can be located where the energy is needed which also reduces transmission losses.

    The amusing thing is that the west lacks that solid reliable energy source they can fall back on to keep everything running... even hydro lakes can get low sometimes...

    Other technologies like graphene batteries and also further expand options in terms of cost and capacity for batteries.

    Portable nuclear power plants will certainly be part of the solution too.
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    Post  kvs Fri Jul 02, 2021 4:28 pm

    Storage of variable power is the show stopper for wind and solar. We have endless talk about vat battery storage and pumped water storage
    but nowhere are these even being employed. The former is not even a prototype and the latter has already been discussed. So all of
    these alt-energy sources around the world use the existing grid as a buffer. By dumping the variable power into a very large base load "pool",
    there is enough off-peak demand that this is a viable solution.

    Solar panels need around 20 years to pay off the full cost of their production. A lot of cheaper Chinese panels don't even last 10 years.
    The solar energy hitting the surface at various latitudes is very well quantified (atmospheric variability will never make it higher). Also,
    it has taken a bloody long time to get to 22% efficiency and "technology" is not going to override physics.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cell_efficiency

    The usual wikicrapia hodgepodge, ignore the irrelevant near 90% efficiency scenario, the real limit is under 40%. Doubling the efficiency
    of the best commercial (not lab specimens) solar cells today will not be a game changer. As with battery storage, a factor of 10 is needed
    to have a game changer. There will not be any 50% let alone 200% (able to do more with less area) efficient solar panels in the near future.
    So instead of subsidy driven, political posturing building solar farms, spend the money on nuclear power and fund the blue sky science that
    may in the sci-fi future take us elsewhere.

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    Post  slasher Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:17 am

    slasher wrote:Some major projects worth following:


      [1]Upgrade and expansion of Russia's railway network in the east - planned by 2024 (>$10 Billion). This will facilitate not just exporting coal, but significantly stimulate economic activity in eastern Russia and greatly increase trade route capacity from countries like China, Japan, South Korea etc. to markets in the West. It also will head off China's Belt and Road project dominating over-land cargo trade



      [2]Vostok Oil project - production to start 2025 (approx. $150 billion)



      [3]Development of Russia's petrochemicals industry. Amur Gas chemical complex recently launched (expected to reach its full capacity in 2025). Further plants being constructed at Ust-Luga, Irkutsk and of course Yamal



      [4]Further expansion and completion of LNG production plants at Arctic II, Sakhalin and Ust-Luga


    Wow!! Russia is really preparing to take off in a big way. Good luck staying the course in pursuit of real independence and respectable self-sufficiency. Sovereignty isn't a gift bestowed by others, nor can it be left to militaristic fantasies. Real strength and security is built on a solid economic base, enriched by scientific, technological and industrial capacity. Russia's leadership has done well in protecting the country by strengthening its military. Now its wisely looking to secure its future. Bravo!!

    A must watch for the Russia haters. Brilliant production here:



    P.S. Not to leave out as well a real focus on developing and its human capital and a sustainable environment. Hope the fixation so many Russians have for the West is washed away and ordinary Russians start to recognize their value and potential. The world could use some genuine leadership for a change rather than imperialism.

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    Post  owais.usmani Tue Jul 27, 2021 8:30 am

    https://secretmag.ru/stories/megastroiki-xxi-veka-8-stroyashikhsya-predpriyatii-gigantov-v-rossii.htm

    Mega Structures of the XXI century. 8 giant enterprises under construction in Russia

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    Post  PhSt Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:02 am

    owais.usmani wrote:https://secretmag.ru/stories/megastroiki-xxi-veka-8-stroyashikhsya-predpriyatii-gigantov-v-rossii.htm

    Mega Structures of the XXI century. 8 giant enterprises under construction in Russia

    It seems the comment section has been infiltrated by NATzO Trolls from Ukropistan

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    Post  kvs Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:07 pm

    Pathetic losers projecting their toilet environment onto Russia. They actually believe in Banderastan that their
    standard of living is much higher than in Russia. And that Crimea has become "impoverished" after 2014.

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:59 pm

    kvs wrote:Pathetic losers projecting their toilet environment onto Russia.   They actually believe in Banderastan that their
    standard of living is much higher than in Russia.   And that Crimea has become "impoverished" after 2014.


    I think they are rather Navalnites and members of some of the populist socialist opposition rather than Ukros

    The person who mentions the projects as 'owned by foreigners'. Well actually that's only one of them - the mineral extraction in Chukotka. The Zvezda shipyard is not owned at all by the Chinese, rather it is being built by their subcontractors.
    And most projects are not natural resource extraction either - but natural resource processing. You can hardly call a gas-chemical complex that produces polymers, or extraction of Helium and the refinement of impurities from natural gas for further processing - as a natural resource extraction project.

    About the 'plundering of funds', this always happens to some extent, but the interests in getting these projects up and running and making money far exceeds those of petty corruptioners and thieves. I'm sure everything will be fine.

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    Post  PhSt Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:24 pm

    This is good news, Russia needs to invest more to develop its own tourism spots so Russians don't have to spend money in foreign resorts.

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    Post  PhSt Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:00 am

    Russia Ramps Up Its Hydrogen Energy Ambitions

    Russia is building on its 2020 roadmap for hydrogen production over the next decade, announcing a new working group to coordinate the country’s hydrogen production and exportation projects.

    With the development of a new working group, by Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin, to coordinate hydrogen projects, Russia appears to be responding to international energy transition expectations for the coming years.

    Russia expects national demand to continue to rely heavily on oil and gas, meaning that much of its hydrogen production will be aimed towards export. With high levels of natural gas production, Russia is understandably interested in pursuing hydrogen production, as its neighboring European and Middle Eastern regions express their interest both for hydrogen development and importation over the next decade.

    Russia plans to produce blue hydrogen, using carbon capture and storage (CCS) technology on its natural gas sites to produce the energy source.

    The working group consists of the presidents and vice-presidents of national gas firms Gazprom and Novatek, as well as representatives from the oil industry and several other national corporations and ministries. The group will be headed by Alexander Novak, Russia’s deputy prime minister.

    Gazprom has been interested in the potential uses of hydrogen for several years, including setting out a plan for hydrogen-powered trains by 2024. The firm is now suggesting that one of the two lines in its new Nord Stream 2 undersea gas pipeline project, connecting Russia and Germany, could be used to transport hydrogen in the 2030s.

    The firm has recently signed agreements to look into the incorporation of CCS, ammonia production, and wind-power generation into its existing gas production sites. And oil companies Rosneft and Gazprom Neft are also offering their expertise, with experience in grey hydrogen production at their refineries.

    Building upon Russia’s hydrogen roadmap, the working group expects that hydrogen-producing facilities using CCS could be commissioned for as early as 2023. Green hydrogen could also be in the works, as the group intends to run trials on hydrogen production from water and other renewables.

    Since the creation of the working group this month, some companies have already announced plans for hydrogen production and use in the country. For example, the United Engine Corporation of Rostec (UEC) has stated its intention to develop power plants to support the utilization of hydrogen in the aviation sector.

    Novak stated in June that Russia is aiming for a 20 percent share in the world’s hydrogen market, with the government expected to approve a hydrogen plan within the next two months. The plan is expected to offer various scenarios for Russian hydrogen production as well as potential export markets.

    Russia’s 2020 energy strategy, through 2034, presented a target of 200,000 tonnes of hydrogen exports by 2024, increasing this figure to 2 million tonnes by 2035. However, if demand surpasses expectations, Russia could develop its hydrogen industry much faster, in order to export significantly higher amounts of clean energy.

    Russia also expects to work closely with several other high-demand and production states in the development of a hydrogen industry over the next decade including Germany, France, Australia, Japan, South Korea, and Saudi Arabia.

    With a Deloitte report suggesting that hydrogen use in Europe’s transport sector will reach 50 million tonnes by 2050, and European industry could require 45 million tonnes by this date, many countries are diving into production plans, with Russia offering a vital bridge between Asia and Europe as the market expands.

    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Russia-Ramps-Up-Its-Hydrogen-Energy-Ambitions.html

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    Post  limb Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:22 pm

    How much potholes does the average russian road have? Roads are very vulnerable to low level corruption because the money for the gravel base can be stolen with almost complete impunity. Thus when the road is ready, it looks perfect, but in a few months its teeming with potholes because the foundation is too thin.
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    Post  kvs Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:21 pm

    limb wrote:How much potholes does the average russian road have? Roads are very vulnerable to low level corruption because the money for the gravel base can be stolen with almost complete impunity. Thus when the road is ready, it looks perfect, but in a few months its teeming with potholes because the foundation is too thin.

    Actually very few potholes. Ukrainians who move to the Russian hinterland are shocked to find that the quality of roads and
    infrastructure is so high. By contrast even the main roads in Kiev are in a bad state of upkeep.

    The urban development thread has videos on this subject.

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    Post  medo Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:05 am



    Russia will prolong M12 highway to Chelyaninsk and Tyumen.

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:31 pm

    Baikal Tunnel, the largest modernization facility of the BAM, opened in Buryatia. 


    A new tunnel was opened on the Baikal-Amur Mainline. Since 2014, construction workers have passed 6682 meters through the mountains of the Baikal range. One and a half thousand people and more than a hundred units of special equipment and equipment worked at the facility. The launch of the new Baikal tunnel and the second track on the Delbichinda — Daban section will increase its capacity from 17 to 85 pairs of trains per day.


    The builders worked in the most difficult conditions at a great depth. Despite the latest technology, it took seven years. The first tunnel was built twice as long. The new tunnel is located 35 m from the old one. The capacity of BAM will now increase twofold from 13.2 million tons to 32.4 million tons of cargo per year.


    The previously existing single-track tunnel was one of the narrowest places on the BAM, it was built back in 1985. Trains on the Delbichinda-Daban section were idle waiting for oncoming trains to pass.


    Construction of the second Baikal Tunnel began in 2014 as part of the BAM and Trans-Siberian Railway modernization and development project. More than 2.1 billion rubles were allocated for the project*. The single-track Baikal Tunnel was built in 1985. Traffic will now be double-tracked.


    6682 meters were covered underground in difficult geological conditions. The speed of sinking was 300 m per month. The tunnel depth reaches 300 m.


    1.5 thousand people, more than 100 units of mining equipment, road construction vehicles and vehicles were involved in the construction of the tunnel.


    * Since 2014, BAM has already implemented a number of major investment projects: the construction of the second track on the Marikta-Nebel stage (RUB 500 million); the second track on the Sakukan — Sallikit stage of the Taksimo-Novaya Chara section (RUB 660 million); the second track on the Taksimo — Lodya stage of the Taksimo — Novaya Chara section (RUB 600 million); and finally, the construction of the new Baikal Tunnel on the Delbichinda — Daban stage (over RUB 2.1 billion).

    Source: 

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    Post  GarryB Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:36 am

    How much potholes does the average russian road have?

    Funny you ask that, I was just re-watching a TV series called Long Way Down which was a sequal to the Long Way Round which was Ewan McGregor and Charley Boreman riding motor bikes on an adventure... long way round they went from the UK across europe and Russia and Asia and over to the US to finish in New York, while Long way down went from the UK across to France and down to the med and across to africa and then down through africa to South Africa... and before they went they were talking about conditions they were likely to come across and one of the things was new Chinese built roads and they made some dark comments suggesting it was going to be all goat tracks, but when they got there and road their bikes on them they found the Chinese roads were excellent and better than any of the colonial european powers built for them...
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    Post  lyle6 Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:03 am

    Most oil producing nations that aren't warzones should have very good roads. Asphalt there should be plenty of that paving the road is pretty much a no-brainer.
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    Post  par far Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:36 pm

    PhSt wrote:This is good news, Russia needs to invest more to develop its own tourism spots so Russians don't have to spend money in foreign resorts.







    This is very nice, right now I am researching on traveling to Russia and when the Pandemic is over, I plan on traveling to India and than to Russia. But I have heard from western sources(news, online) that Indians are not welcome in Russia and they will face difficulties in Russia. I would have had believed this, if it were not for this site but I am still worried. I have put 2 days aside, where I will watch videos of Indian tourists in Russia, to see how they find it in Russia.

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    Post  flamming_python Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:03 pm

    par far wrote:
    This is very nice, right now I am researching on traveling to Russia and when the Pandemic is over, I plan on traveling to India and than to Russia. But I have heard from western sources(news, online) that Indians are not welcome in Russia and they will face difficulties in Russia. I would have had believed this, if it were not for this site but I am still worried. I have put 2 days aside, where I will watch videos of Indian tourists in Russia, to see how they find it in Russia.

    That's a load of rubbish

    There are plenty of vids of Indian tourists in Russia facing no issues whatsoever, even staying with Russian families in small towns

    Then there are Indian medical and other students who effectively live in the country for years, they all report no issues as well

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    Post  par far Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:06 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    par far wrote:
    This is very nice, right now I am researching on traveling to Russia and when the Pandemic is over, I plan on traveling to India and than to Russia. But I have heard from western sources(news, online) that Indians are not welcome in Russia and they will face difficulties in Russia. I would have had believed this, if it were not for this site but I am still worried. I have put 2 days aside, where I will watch videos of Indian tourists in Russia, to see how they find it in Russia.

    That's a load of rubbish

    There are plenty of vids of Indian tourists in Russia facing no issues whatsoever, even staying with Russian families in small towns

    Then there are Indian medical and other students who effectively live in the country for years, they all report no issues as well


    This is what I thought too, the western propaganda will tell you something else.
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    Post  Scorpius Yesterday at 4:12 pm


    The world's northernmost indoor swimming pool has opened at the Russian military base "Arctic Shamrock". The distance to the North Pole from here is only 700 kilometers. The base "Arctic shamrock" can provide a completely autonomous existence of personnel for 1.5 years.

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    Post  GarryB Today at 5:24 am

    There was a documentary not that long ago on RT about Black Russians... specifically those that moved to the Soviet Union in the 1920s and 1930s. Many of them were well educated and worked in factories. They were not happy in the US because of racism and made the move to Russia where their skills were appreciated and they worked their way up the ladder and got good jobs.

    They showed a video, which I only saw glimpses of where a Black Russian woman whose family had moved to America in the 1990s went back to look around.... of course living in the US for the last few decades she was sitting in a town square and a police officer came up to her to ask her a few questions. When she replied in fluent Russian and told him her story the policeman was pleasantly surprised and went away. He came back a few minutes later with a bunch of flowers for her. She said that would not happen to her in the US.

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