SeigSoloyvov wrote:Russia has been very reluctant to provide Assad with those types of weapons even if they did, I don't see Russia giving them enough guns to give the SAA advantage in Arty strikes. The Turkish army strikes have been bigger than anything the SAA has been putting up recently.
SAA general has to consolidate many guns to perform mass saturation attacks in one area. The Turks have been able to do it in multiple areas, Now I am not saying Turkish arty alone will win the war. I am simply saying in arty the Turks have more and are using them to good effect in ways the SAA haven't been able to answer.
The rebels alone cannot win against the SAA for the record If Erod wants to annex those parts of Syria he wants the Turkish army will need to directly deploy. The problem is for the SAA while they will defeat the rebels, they will be bloodied and degraded in strength greatly after it's all said and done and be no match for the Turkish army.
Russia provided syria with lots of BM-21 Grad which support missiles with 45km range.. more than enough to hit any part of turkey army positions ,and even reach their border.. depending where they are used.. with the new advances in aleppo.. they can strike almost anywhere in idlib with that.. so they will be fine.. with the direct
guidance of Russia airforce to correct their aim..
Syria also have lots of OTR-21 Tochka missiles.. that have more than 100km range.. again with russia technical
support and upgrades they can be very precise... syria have used them before against ISIS. have seen those
Syria also have scuds and other soviet missiles upgraded by russia.. with 300km range or so .
Finally IRAN supply syria with weapons too ,they have missiles that easily reach all parts of idlib..
something that erdo army will have is accuracy problem with their gps jammed..
So Syrian have plenty of weapons .more than you think.. don't you think Russia had to prepare syria
for a direct confrontation with turkey very well ? when they turkey shot down their plane ?
Syria have onyx missiles ,that even though are anti ship , they have a 300km range.. this was reported by
also syria have recently modernized dozens of migs-29..with all the weapons they can carry.. they have not been almost never used in the entire war... they stored in reserve just for a real special time ,that their country is in a full scale war with Turkey or Israel. according to wikipedia syria should have up to x40 of them. last time
they were used according to wikipedia
Syrian MiG-29s entered the Syrian Civil War in late October 2013, attacking Free Syrian Army insurgents with unguided rockets and bombs in Damascus.
with a mig -29 and upgraded avionics ,the syrian airforce can hit those turk artillery positions from save
distance.. once you blow up 3 to 5 of them.. they will lose the interest to continue with the strategy ,since
erdogan artillery have no precision at all. and missiles of mig-29 can do direct hits all the way to ankara or telaviv and hit with precision there. if they are under a major full war from any nation and being invaded
they have nothing to lose... and will strike back..
last but not least..
all those turkey outpost that there are plenty with hundreds of soldiers inside are easy target for syrian army..
if they feel turkey declared a full scale war and is advancing on their positions ,those turkey outpost will be destroyed.. in any case you can't win a war from long range strikes alone, either airforce or artillery ,
you need an actual army to invade the zones you want to occupy.. Once erdogan army or his terrorist enter a zone withing range of syrian artillery or russian airforce they will be completely destroyed.
So if turkey army fire from turkey territory to the syrian army.. they will spread and take cover or even retreat a little bit.. but once turkey army move 10km inside syria with its artillery.. it will be inside the range of the backbone of syria artillery that is BM-21 Grad , that syria can produce them in their own country with russia help.
and with 45km range and russia guidance for aim.. they can stop any artillery positions. but also OTR-21 Tochka
with 100km or migs-29 can do the extra ,if needs to target inside turkey in case of a full scale declared war by turkey. like i said.. if syria have no other option ,and is at war already and erdogan is attempting to push back syrian army from aleppo ,they will not hesitate to hit turk army anywhere , in any place... erdogan have create
lots of target ,military bases they have for syrian army to hit..
Is important to remember ,that russia airforce don't limit the places their airforce fly and bomb.. just a day or two ago.. they hit a base of turkey backed terrorist right there near the turkey border.. and also hit inside idlib main city.. so any artillery strikes positions firing on russian troops or syrian army will face the russian airforce.
The options of erdogan are way more limited ,than the ones of Russia. if he goes full retard and start bombing
russian base ,the gloves will be off.. so turkey options are either lose to syrian army , or either lose to russia.