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    Post  Hole Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:40 pm

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    Town has been liberated. Source: SouthFront.
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:14 pm

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/202001281078162809-syrian-troops-liberate-strategic-city-of-maarat-al-numan-in-idlib-province---source/


    The strategy of syrian army  is pretty simple and very effective.. is what people know as mobbing or ganging ..
    If anyone have seen how a big group of hyenas with patience manage to kick the more powerful lion from their prey is by encircling the lion and then mobbing hit.. harassing him ,from all sides , the lion pick a fight with one hyenna but then is attacked from behind by another.. he turn around and then attacked from another side.
    and he is overwhelmed and just abandon it..  Turkey in syria and his terrorist are the lion .. and is being overwhelmed there.. by attacks from all sides and by the air too.. only way nato/turkey could reverse the thing is sending a full scale army invasion ,but that will be expensive ,bad public relations at home, and bad for turkey economy and SAA can just go to vietnam mode.. and use the attrition guerrilla tactics ,road side bombs and ambush to an invading army with russia arming them..so it will be real painful to be an invading force with russia providing weapons to kick the invader.. so eventually only way to hold positions in syria is if they remove russia from syria ,then plant a flag on damascus and remove the government ..and then convince population to stop any resistance.. or just go the hitler way and put all civilians on concentration camps.. good luck for erdogan
    doing that..  

    The US and its sunni headchoppers tactic since the start of the war in 2011.. have not changed one bit..
    is Blitzkrieg tactics that is (lighting war) using speed and overwhelming force in one point.. but contrary to hitler
    that he had a big army doing the attack so that later they can hold the place, the jihadist use a small dispersed army (because of the risk of airforce wiping too many of them) but with a very lethal suicide trucks charge ,to ram into SAA positions and once the defenses penetrate keep advancing to cause confusion and disorganization and stay as close as possible to SAA to deny airforce effectiveness . bit this tactic have a major flaw.. because their numbers are small and russia controls the airspace.. they can't hold the territory for long
    once is captured..  believe it or not.. this is the same tactic they flawed tactic have been using non stop for 9 years.. at the start it worked because russia was not in syria.. but once they deployed an effective airforce ,and drones to guide artillery.. things reversed..in syria favor..


    So as long SAA have military force able to fight and defend its home land.. with rockets and bullets and russia airforce support. they will continue in the game ,to continue liberating zones , and or trading them back and forth.. in my opinion Russia should not liberate too much , so that alqaeda friendly rebels abandon syria.. they need to be grinded in idlib ,otherwise they will leave and spread in europe and russia or infiltrate in syria as "Refugees" and cause major security problems later.

    Syria once it finish with idlib..will return to "kurdistand" zones ,where american have bases..
    and most oil is.. will seek to make an alliance with kurds and repeat the hyenna vs lion tactic.. encircle american bases.. deploy air defenses around it and artillery to pressure them.. take control of all the roads to enter and leave the US bases ,interfere with electronic warfare their radars and communications and eventually they will leave.. as the lion always do ,when being encircled
    and mobbed.. so all this strategies will always work.. and US military knows it... they are only trying to gain  time ,to cause as much troubles as possible and try to use their interference as a negotiating card ,to get
    some kind of oil deals.. and more importantly ,US military will try to avoid any perception as much as possible
    with their media and actions that they lost in syria..   this tactics will also work for iraq.. to recover their land..
    iraq or iran ,can mob their positions too ,first with civilians protesters first.. encircle their bases and then later with military forces.. and this will pressure them to leave ,when all their communications interfere and all their base at range of artillery and rocket grenades..

    is critical for syria ,that they don't sacrifice too many lives of their soldiers and fight with their same intensity on the economic front..  since the danger of an a new civil war is not over... The west can instigate a remove of government with traitors from the inside.. and this is where russia can't help much and major danger also exist.   without a working economy ,nations can be split easily in many parts..  and this is where the west will continue pressure forever on syria.

    take a look at this recent attack on syria economy..

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    so not only sanctions ,but also terrorism on syria economic infrastructure ,will be the major problem..
    the west destroyed a pipeline from syria in an underwater operation.. probably they used kamikazi underwater
    drones with an explosive charge. shows that the forces of evil will still target syria economy ,in hopes
    population will turn against their government ..and or they just abandon syria and leave.. an invasion
    of iran to iraq and syria using same hyenna vs lion tactics ,could significantly stablize the region ,and between
    all 3 countries build a pipeline and develop an strong economy .

    The lebanon protest in my opinion ..are directly connected to NATO/israel attemps
    to break syria..and they will like to get a puppet government in lebanon ,to block syrian economy from there
    and also supply weapons to sunni radicals to continue the fight from there.


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    Post  nomadski Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:59 pm


    Good. In liberated area, identify Rats. Photo and finger print and name of friends. If they repent, send to education camp and provide work. If not repent, execute. Repeat procedure. Great victory to SAA. Long live Syria.
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    Post  Hole Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:55 pm

    Protests in Lebanon are mostly against the western-backed (= bribed) politicians like Hariri.
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    The real story on the Douma chemical "attack" is slowly emerging. It was clearly staged and the bodies were those of people
    murdered in gas chambers by the jihadi slime. The average jihadi thinks that learning physics is a sin against Allah so their
    amateur fakery is a give away. Anyone who ignores the physical inconsistencies is a sick f*ck.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:47 pm

    Khan Tuman to the West of Aleppo has been liberated.   Very Happy

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    Post  crod Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:56 pm

    Can anyone assist me here please. if the livemap site is accurate, there appears to be no less than three Turkish OP in areas now under syrian control. What are they doing there still and why have they not been forced to pull out? And, how are they getting supplies in - obv with the consent of the syrians? bizarre is it not????
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    Post  Vann7 Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:47 am

    crod wrote:Can anyone assist me here please. if the livemap site is accurate, there appears to be no less than three Turkish OP in areas now under syrian control. What are they doing there still and why have they not been forced to pull out? And, how are they getting supplies in - obv with the consent of the syrians? bizarre is it not????

    if they pull out will look humiliating for them.. they better prefer to stay and provide any intelligence of
    syrian troops movements to their sunni alqaeda head choppers
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    Post  crod Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:02 am

    Vann7 wrote:
    crod wrote:Can anyone assist me here please. if the livemap site is accurate, there appears to be no less than three Turkish OP in areas now under syrian control. What are they doing there still and why have they not been forced to pull out? And, how are they getting supplies in - obv with the consent of the syrians? bizarre is it not????

    if they pull out will look humiliating for them.. they better prefer to stay and provide any intelligence of
    syrian troops movements to their sunni alqaeda head choppers

    yeah but confined to an out-post living at the mercy of Syrian permission to allow supplies in. to avoid humiliation they could surely accept the kind invitation to now leave as the area is now under Syrian control, safe and returning to normal with reconstruction etc etc...works for all. the reasons as to why they're really there doesn't need to come into it. i mean it's not a long-term sustainable position to be in. if things were to turn nasty, it wouldnt take long for the base to fall with potential huge casualties numbers.
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    Post  franco Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:04 am

    crod wrote:Can anyone assist me here please. if the livemap site is accurate, there appears to be no less than three Turkish OP in areas now under syrian control. What are they doing there still and why have they not been forced to pull out? And, how are they getting supplies in - obv with the consent of the syrians? bizarre is it not????

    Stubborn... and the Russian end up having to post troops around them to prevent confrontations and also supply them.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:33 pm

    Currently, the goal of the Syrians is to restore full control of the M5 highway in that area
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    Post  Vann7 Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:28 pm

    crod wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:
    crod wrote:Can anyone assist me here please. if the livemap site is accurate, there appears to be no less than three Turkish OP in areas now under syrian control. What are they doing there still and why have they not been forced to pull out? And, how are they getting supplies in - obv with the consent of the syrians? bizarre is it not????

    if they pull out will look humiliating for them.. they better prefer to stay and provide any intelligence of
    syrian troops movements to their sunni alqaeda head choppers

    yeah but confined to an out-post living at the mercy of Syrian permission to allow supplies in. to avoid humiliation they could surely accept the kind invitation to now leave as the area is now under Syrian control, safe and returning to normal with reconstruction etc etc...works for all. the reasons as to why they're really there doesn't need to come into it. i mean it's not a long-term sustainable position to be in. if things were to turn nasty, it wouldnt take long for the base to fall with potential huge casualties numbers.

    look at things this way..
    those turkey outpost.. deep inside syrian territory and under control by syrian army their zones.. will
    become targets.. in case turkey start a full scale war against syrian military.. they will be prisoners.. and there
    had to be hundreds of them.. during the serbia vs kosovo war..  when russians special forces captured an airport in serbia to deny it to NATO to use the airport for their bombers.. what NATO did was encircle the base.. and control all exit and entry points.. and they allowed food to enter but not weapons.. eventually the war ended ,
    serbia abandon the fight ,, and russians leave.. so the entire base capture was symbolical.. it did not changed
    much in the outcome...   same will happen to turkey outpost in syria...  they are actually more beneficial for syria
    than for erdogan.. for reasons explained.. syrian army can take them hostages.. if erdogan declare full scale war on syria . so turkey might prefer to recall them , to abandon the outpost before they go in an adventure
    like a full scale war on Syria ,without knowing what kind of help they will receive from Russia.. or if that will
    end their collaboration forever and become enemies again.

    on other news. is correct to say SAA wants to capture the m5 highway.. it will signigicantly shorten the distance
    from latakkia and hama to aleppo and any military convoys will with reinforcements will arrive a lot of time earlier up a day or two saved , when traveling from latakkia russian base to aleppo by land.

    the latest report of South front... is excellent ,but not as always..
    so nice to see they returning to sanity...   with their latest report..
    that makes me think in a new name for the NATO sponsored sectarian militants.

    The Free Selfie Fighters.. (FSF) forces vs SAA.    lol1




    Now where are those that were claiming Russia lost the war in syria.. Smile
    and this is not saying is over.. but far from it.. i really hope the SAA stop advancing
    after capturing the m5 highway..because going too close to turkey border will be a major mistake,
    they will be there clear targets to cross border artillery attacks..

    after M% highway the SAA should move to aleppo front ,for any other advances and get the kurds to completely switch to their side.. and integrate with the government and army.. i lost the count of how many times people claimed the kurds were so professional force..that looks like real army.. but they need SAA protection to confront
    turkey.. lol1

    the kurds forces turned to be paper tigers.. and without SAA they will be dust today and fully captured by turkey.




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    Post  ultimatewarrior Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:34 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Currently, the goal of the Syrians is to restore full control of the M5 highway in that area

    Easy Peasy. A bunch of nomads is no match for the world's biggest country.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:52 pm

    ultimatewarrior wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Currently, the goal of the Syrians is to restore full control of the M5 highway in that area

    Easy Peasy. A bunch of nomads is no match for the world's biggest country.

    Not really the turks are setting up checkpoints right outside the city, there is no going around these they are to close.

    The Turks have also told their proxies up North to start attacking they have already lost a few points to them.

    Ero has no intention of laying down and letting this happen.
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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:24 pm

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    Nice maps. Shows some successes in the last time + critical infrastructure which is mostly under control of the government.
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    Post  ultimatewarrior Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:26 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    ultimatewarrior wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Currently, the goal of the Syrians is to restore full control of the M5 highway in that area

    Easy Peasy. A bunch of nomads is no match for the world's biggest country.

    Not really the turks are setting up checkpoints right outside the city, there is no going around these they are to close.

    The Turks have also told their proxies up North to start attacking they have already lost a few points to them.

    Ero has no intention of laying down and letting this happen.

    Russia has Mi-28NM attack helicopters, Orion attack drones. These can destroy targets in Saraqib with pinpoint accuracy. Then they parachute airborne into Saraqib and take the city with night vision combat capability. Turkish army bases can't stop Russia. Syrian National Army lacks armor and air defense. Also pretty easy targets for Russian Mi-28NM attack helicopters and Orion attack drones which excel at taking out pickup trucks. Erdogan will find he will spend billions and still won't be able to save Julani's life. Putin will hang Julani in Moscow for vowing to nuke Moscow.
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    Post  Azi Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:55 pm

    Erdo want war, he will never let Idlib go...whatever you will give him. He supports IS and HTS (al qaida) and in occupied syrian territory you see turkish flag more often, than this "new" syrian flag. SNA, Zenki, HTS etc. all rely to 100 % on Turkey, because 100 % of their money is sent from Turkey. If he would stop the money the war would be tomorrow over. For the 500.000 dead Erdogan is to 85 % responsible, alo for all flase flag chemical attacks. He should be condemned no or it's too late..

    Now huge reinforcements of Turkish Army on their way to Idlib, sooner or later SAA and TLF will clash! What will Russia do? Will they attack TLF? SAA can't stand against TLF, because after years of war SAA is trained and combat ready, but only a shadow of it's former size. They need weeks to liberate more or less smal areas, with TLF support SNA, HTS has overwhelming power to march against Aleppo (biggest city in Syria) and other important cities. Erdogan said once that Aleppo ist not Syrian, that it is a important "turkish city".

    Russia should be prepared for retaliation, Erdogan nows go all in, because situation in Turkey is economic a desaster and he will loose next election for sure. I think a deal is now not possible anymore. And don't forget Erdogan is "Muslim Brother", they are masked peaceful, but they are the biggest supporter of terror and have an ideology of muslim superiority all over the world in mind.


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    Post  Azi Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:00 pm

    ultimatewarrior wrote:

    Russia has Mi-28NM attack helicopters, Orion attack drones. These can destroy targets in Saraqib with pinpoint accuracy. Then they parachute airborne into Saraqib and take the city with night vision combat capability. Turkish army bases can't stop Russia. Syrian National Army lacks armor and air defense. Also pretty easy targets for Russian Mi-28NM attack helicopters and Orion attack drones which excel at taking out pickup trucks. Erdogan will find he will spend billions and still won't be able to save Julani's life. Putin will hang Julani in Moscow for vowing to nuke Moscow.
    Russia will not send any troops inside Saraqib! Only thing they will do is maybe bombing the complete town to ashes.

    Most realistic is surrounding of Saraqib and let the turkish soldiers starve for weeks...sooner or later they must leave. Problem is SAA can't surround anything, because Turkey ist establishing 2-3 oupost per day at moment. SAA could now not use Saraqib as crossing of two highways, so possesion of M5 highway makes no sense anymore. So SAA stop the offensive, meaning let Idlib go forever in the hands of Turkey...or go full attack and kiling turkish soldiers, meaning a full confrontation between Syria and Turkey.

    At monent Aleppo ist under heavy attack, backed by TLF (in the background). They lost a quarter hold for years by SAA today....let's see how this will progress.
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    Post  nomadski Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:03 pm

    So be it. But SA and Russia and Iran and Hezb and Fatemeyon forces must keep fight local to IDLIB. Keep friendship with Turkey global. No attack on Turkey territory. Only defensive in IDLIB.

    And now, apart from yank / SDF  alliance in East and Turk occupation in North East . The strongest opposition. The only obstacle to Syria is this Turkey backed HTS in the west . They are the weaker of the two main opponents. And must be removed, before confronting the Yanks and SDF and Turks in the East. Together with help from Iran backed PMU.

    Clean IDLIB and then drive out Turk forces from west of Euphrates, in border area. But let Turk forces stay in East Euphrates, to weaken yank mobility. Attack yank bases in East next. Followed by attack on Turk forces in the North East.


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    Post  Azi Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:10 pm

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    So be it. But SA and Russia and Iran and Hezb and Fatemeyon forces must keep fight local to IDLIB. Keep friendship with Turkey global. No attack on Turkey territory. Only defensive in IDLIB.

    And now, apart from yank / SDF  alliance in East. The strongest opposition. The only obstacle to Syria is this Turkey backed HTS. They are the weaker of the two main opponents. And must be removed, before confronting the Yanks in the East. Together with help from Iran backed PMU.

    You are right! But if Erdo attacks Russian Army in Syria directly RuAF must retaliate into turkish territory, because Turkey has a overwhelming militar superiority in the region and is neighbor to Syria, in contrast to Russia. Turkey can close airspace and Bosporus, throwing TLF in...means Russia will loose complete Syria in only months. Support over Iran only will not work, because Iraq (US controlled) can close easy airspace, but it's unlikely...and support chain is longer.

    But I think Erdo is smart enough and let not escalate this complete. But SAA and TLF will battle for sure during the next days or weeks.

    Important for Syria to keep the Kurds in for the fight against TLF and terror groups. So Kurds should switch their brain on and start thinking, because USA betrayed shameless the SDF and Kurds once and they will do it again and again.

    Difficult situation! No Suspect


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    Post  nomadski Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:15 pm

    So must build forces and supplies first. And make offensive short. And get supply through Iraq, by Iran Air and land route. For operation in the East. Less difficult to finish war quickly. What are we going to do? Situation will not change by itself.........

    Russia can use Syrian infantry to fight on the ground in Syria. Provide air cover. No need to strike into Turkey.... I do not see why ?



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    Post  Azi Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:17 pm

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    So must build forces and supplies first. And make offensive short. And get supply through Iraq, by Iran Air and land route. For operation in the East.

    Yes! thumbsup They must change NOW radical their supply route to Syria.
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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:54 pm

    I know Iran doesn´t allow foreign troops on it´s soil, but a russian tank brigade based in NW Iran would be a massive deterrence.
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    Post  nomadski Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:21 am

    Deterence against what?  Turkey?   Iran can deter Turkey and NATO by Army alone, no need for help. Iran can not and will not allow foreign troops on it's soil. Trainers and advisers may be. But I think Russian Air and ground troops may lagally transition to Iraq and Syria. If supply route through Bosphorus not available. Iraq can be helped to accept transition of Russian supply, through it's territory.

    Regarding recent counter - attack by Turkey backed militants near IDLIB. Good. Pull back a little, to make demarcation line. Then immediately destroy with air power. Set battle, is defeat for the Rats.

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