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US Navy and Naval Aircraft: News
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- Post n°426
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https://blog.usni.org/posts/2021/09/02/things-to-take-from-kabul-to-westpac
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I wonder how effective it actually would have been if the Taleban had been more serious about making the US leave faster...
Phalanx is OK... it fires highly toxic DU rounds of 50 calibre size and has an effective range of just under 2km... but Kabul is a huge target so the Taleban could have rolled huge numbers of rocket launchers into position and launched a deluge of rockets at the air field... I doubt Phalanx would have been very effective...
What they really should have done was not withdraw their air support three months before withdrawing everything else... it would not have been that complex...
Phalanx is OK... it fires highly toxic DU rounds of 50 calibre size and has an effective range of just under 2km... but Kabul is a huge target so the Taleban could have rolled huge numbers of rocket launchers into position and launched a deluge of rockets at the air field... I doubt Phalanx would have been very effective...
What they really should have done was not withdraw their air support three months before withdrawing everything else... it would not have been that complex...
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- Post n°428
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I'm not as clued up on ships as Aircraft but knowing their public affairs, I'm assuming that vessel is in fact Russian?
Useless twats.
*edit* I googled them and to drive the point more, they shared this back in September. The mind boggles as to how useless these people are.
Useless twats.
*edit* I googled them and to drive the point more, they shared this back in September. The mind boggles as to how useless these people are.
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I think they are doing this on purpose.
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The F-35 project cost ran into US$ 1 trillion. Lockheed will have to sell at least 10,000 F-35s just to break even. Of these U.S government will purchase 3000. All other NATO states combined another 1000. Lockheed will still have to find markets to sell the remaining 5, 6 thousand F-35s.GarryB wrote:So it should... it was the promised one and turned out to be a spoiled little brat with expensive tastes...
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RTN wrote:The F-35 project cost ran into US$ 1 trillion. Lockheed will have to sell at least 10,000 F-35s just to break even. Of these U.S government will purchase 3000. All other NATO states combined another 1000. Lockheed will still have to find markets to sell the remaining 5, 6 thousand F-35s.GarryB wrote:So it should... it was the promised one and turned out to be a spoiled little brat with expensive tastes...
It's already a dead project. They have moved on the "6th generation" fighter based on f-22 and are buying more f-15 and f-18.
And there aren't that many countries buying it.
The ALICE software supposed to manage maintenace was stopped because they couldn't fix all the issues and it was even working at all.
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The F-35 project cost ran into US$ 1 trillion. Lockheed will have to sell at least 10,000 F-35s just to break even. Of these U.S government will purchase 3000. All other NATO states combined another 1000. Lockheed will still have to find markets to sell the remaining 5, 6 thousand F-35s.
They need to admit they fucked up and then suck it up and make some sensible changes that will make it cheaper to buy and cheaper to operate...
Reduce the stealth level dramatically so it is less stealthy but also much lower maintenance.
They should adopt two standards of stealth... peace time and war time where in peace time it does not have coating applied that take hours to cure and set, so support hours per flight hours can be slashed to less than a dozen at least.
They need to fully fund that ALICE support system because that was supposed to make it affordable too... break the issues down into chunks and try to achieve some successes instead of a fully operational system off the shelf ready to go which is never going to happen first time.
They also need to put in writing that doing things the C-17 way where factories and assembly plants being located in the voting districts of the congressmen who control the purse strings needs to stop... it is the opposite of centralised production and development and it makes everything vastly more expensive and adds delays when things don't get sent on time.
In fact I would track down all the people who agreed to such a model and arrest them and put them in jail in Guantanimo for crimes against the country of the USA for the purposes of extorting money for the company they worked for and themselves.
Aircraft should be not able to be cancelled because they are critical to the US military... not because cancelling them would cause unemployment in a district that votes for the congressmen who decide who and what gets funding.
Those changes alone will lead to something that they can use, but they are pussies and don't have the balls to root out corruption because someone might look at the schemes they have running and they might go to jail too.
PD wont like it, but they need a Rogozin who is powerful enough that they can't threaten or bribe who can go in there and actually fix things and make serious changes, but the deep state will resist and nothing will happen.
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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/25/asia/us-navy-littoral-combat-ships-pacific-south-china-sea-intl-hnk-ml-dst/index.html
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"It is a trade term for influence," Cmdr. Reann Mommsen said. "Without going into specifics, USS Gabrielle Giffords presence influenced operations throughout the South China Sea."
Hahaha.. it got in the way during Chinese exercises... in the same way and old fishing Junk would have... love how when something fails they just lower the bar... and it suddenly becomes adequate...
I'm not as clued up on ships as Aircraft but knowing their public affairs, I'm assuming that vessel is in fact Russian?
That radar on top, and that rear facing twin 130mm gun mount... that is a Kirov class Russian cruiser.
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Christ, thanks for clarifying Gary.
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A failed US ship design, first one now gone.
in fact, they could be very good OPVs:I am pretty sure that Rolls Royce could rip out the propulsion and transmission and put something in to make it move fast... they wouldn't be terrible patrol boats at the very least...
Littoral Combat Ships Would Make Great Coast Guard Cutters
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To be a coast guard cutter they would need to fix the propulsion problems to allow them to go faster than 12 knots.
Suggesting they would make great coast guard ships is like saying the Ford class CVN would make an amazing coast guard ship.... or the F-35 would be a great lead in fighter trainer design...
They designed something that was a challenge and a risk and it failed... their mistake was they assumed it would be successful and started serial production before they realised it was unworkable and could not be modified to achieve what they wanted it for, so they are passing it to a service that can use it to avoid the humiliation of scrapping brand new ships.
I would say go talk to the British.... I would think with Rolls Royce engines and weapon systems installed replacing the systems that don't work and they could have some patrol boats to operate in their own waters to free up other ships to operate with their carriers... it just comes down to what sort of upgrades could they manage and how much it will all cost...
Suggesting they would make great coast guard ships is like saying the Ford class CVN would make an amazing coast guard ship.... or the F-35 would be a great lead in fighter trainer design...
They designed something that was a challenge and a risk and it failed... their mistake was they assumed it would be successful and started serial production before they realised it was unworkable and could not be modified to achieve what they wanted it for, so they are passing it to a service that can use it to avoid the humiliation of scrapping brand new ships.
I would say go talk to the British.... I would think with Rolls Royce engines and weapon systems installed replacing the systems that don't work and they could have some patrol boats to operate in their own waters to free up other ships to operate with their carriers... it just comes down to what sort of upgrades could they manage and how much it will all cost...
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Fixing or replacing engines will still take less $ & time than procuring brand new OPVs.
It's not the 1st time a CG of any nation got ships from its or a foreign navy.
It's not the 1st time a CG of any nation got ships from its or a foreign navy.
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Carrier USS Harry S. Truman Now Operating in the Mediterranean; USS Essex in Gulf of Aden
https://news.usni.org/2021/12/16/carrier-uss-harry-s-truman-now-operating-in-the-mediterranean-uss-essex-in-gulf-of-aden
The Harry S. Truman Carrier Strike Group is now operating in the Mediterranean Sea after deploying earlier this month from the East Coast, Navy officials confirmed to USNI News on Thursday.
USS Harry S. Truman (CVN-75), the embarked Carrier Air Wing 1 and its escorts passed through the Strait of Gibraltar on Dec. 14 after deploying from Naval Station Norfolk, Va., on Dec. 1.
The CSG crossed with the Royal Moroccan Navy’s Sigma-class frigate Allal Ben Abdallah (F 615), U.S. 6th Fleet said in a statement.
The carrier’s entrance into the Mediterranean is the first time a carrier has been in the region since USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69) made a brief six-day transit on a return trip to the East Coast from the Middle East in July, according to USNI News’ carrier deployment database. The Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group spent 25 days in March and April in the Mediterranean on its way to U.S. 5th Fleet.
While in the Eastern Mediterranean in March, Eisenhower launched several strikes in support of the anti-ISIS Operation Inherent Resolve with aircraft from Carrier Air Wing 3.
Truman’s deployment is the third for the carrier since mid-2018. The carrier did back-to-back deployments without a maintenance period. Following its return on June 16, 2020, Truman entered a 10-month availability that completed in May.
Meanwhile, the Essex Amphibious Ready Group and the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit have departed the Persian Gulf and are now operating in the Gulf of Aden.
The ARG/MEU deployed from the West Coast on Aug 12.
The ARG is comprised of three ships: landing helicopter dock USS Essex (LHD-2), amphibious transport dock USS Portland (LPD-27) and amphibious dock landing ship USS Pearl Harbor (LSD-52).
This week, Portland tested a laser weapon system against a stationary surface target.
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Setbacks Aside, the First Ford-Class Super Carrier is Nearly Complete
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- Post n°442
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https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2022/01/05/new-in-2022-uss-carl-vinson-expected-to-wrap-up-first-deployment-with-f-35c-fighter-jets/
The aircraft carrier Carl Vinson is expected to wrap up its current deployment — the first including the F-35C Lightning II fighter jet and the CMV-22 Osprey — in spring 2022.
The Vinson and its carrier strike group departed San Diego in August 2021. Based on the Navy’s Optimized Fleet Response Plan, strike groups typically deploy for seven or eight months.
Due to security reasons, the Vinson did not disclose a more specific timeline regarding when its deployment would conclude.
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USS Carl Vinson’s aircraft sustained two ‘Class A’ mishaps last week
Officials say both affected aircraft are expected to return to operations.
By Geoff Ziezulewicz
“In order to protect the safety of our sailors and the security of the force, we do not share details concerning the future movements of the strike group,” Lt. Cmdr. Miranda Williams, a spokesperson for the Vinson, said in an email to Navy Times. “When we have news and updates to share, we will announce them publicly.”
The carrier underwent a 17-month docking planned incremental availability in 2019 at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard in Bremerton, Washington to update the ship for the F-35C before returning to San Diego in 2020.
Those deployed with the Vinson as part of its carrier strike group include the guided-missile cruiser Lake Champlain; guided-missile destroyer Stockdale; and nine squadrons of embarked Carrier Air Wing 2.
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https://theaviationist.com/2022/01/10/f-35cs-aboard-uss-abraham-lincoln/
Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 314 of 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing becomes the first Marine squadron to deploy the F-35C on an aircraft carrier.
The F-35C Lightning II of the U.S. Marine Corps reached yet another milestone, with the type leaving for the first operational deployment aboard an aircraft carrier. The F-35s of Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 314 “Black Knights”, part of the 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing, arrived on the USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) on January 3, 2022, together with the other squadrons assigned to Carrier Air Wing Nine. The USS Lincoln is leaving San Diego with Carrier Strike Group 3 to head for the Pacific Ocean.
“The Black Knight’s deployment of F-35C Lightning II aboard USS Abraham Lincoln is the newest chapter in the Marine Corps’ long history of naval integration,” said Maj. Gen. Bradford J. Gering, 3rd MAW commanding general. The upcoming deployment represents years of hard work and innovation by the Marines and Sailors of VMFA-314, MAG-11, and 3rd MAW. It also reinforces our commitment to fielding the most lethal and ready Navy-Marine Corps force as we project warfighting capabilities throughout the Indo-Pacific region, or globally wherever our nation calls.”
The Marines consider the capability to deploy operationally the F-35C significant as it was specifically built for aircraft carrier operations, as well as enhancing the battlespace awareness of all aircraft in the Carrier Air Wing, contributing to a flexible, mobile force that expands the US military advantage at sea. This is especially true in a contested maritime region like the Pacific Ocean, where the presence of the 5th gen fighter aircraft might contribute to the regional stability while providing security for the US and allies.
“Our ability to operate the F-35C in the Pacific greatly increases the Marine Corps’ naval expeditionary force capabilities by providing us the capacity to employ the most advanced electronic warfare capabilities on any aircraft today in support of fleet operations,” said Lt. Col. Brendan M. Walsh, VMFA-314 commanding officer. “In addition, having this asset available greatly increases the Marine Corps’ ability to provide security to our allied nations and preserve a free and open Indo-Pacific.”
The 3rd MAW has also demonstrated the F-35’s long-range aerial maritime strike capabilities last summer during Exercise Summer Fury 21. During the exercise, which is the largest Marine aviation exercise on the West Coast, the Wing’s F/A-18C Hornets and F-35s flew from Marine Corps Air Station (MCAS) Miramar to Washington State, a distance of more than one thousand miles, to deliver long-range precision fires on a simulated enemy naval surface combatant in a distributed, maritime environment.
“The Summer Fury long-range strike is an opportunity for 3rd MAW to execute a maritime strike against an enemy surface combatant while being supported by an aerial-delivered forward arming and refueling point,” said Lt. Col. Duncan A. French, 3rd MAW lead operations planner. “The concepts and tasks inherent in this mission are critical to the success of a fight against a peer adversary.”
The first operational deployment of the F-35C comes as a culminating effort as VMFA-314 completed its workups last year with Carrier Air Wing Nine on board the USS Abraham Lincoln. The last step off the workups saw VMFA-314 completing their final integrated training cycle along other elements of Carrier Strike Group Three in December as the Marine Corps continues to develop its 5th Generation strike fighter capabilities.
The development of the USMC’s is 5th Generation strike fighter capabilities to meet the demands of the rapidly evolving future operating environment is still ongoing, as VMFA-314 became the first squadron in the Marine Corps to declare the Full Operational Capability (FOC) for the F-35C Lightning II in July 2021. VMFA-314 was the first Marine Corps squadron to transition to the F-35C variant of the Joint Strike Fighter after retiring its legacy F/A-18A/C aircraft and receiving its first F-35C in January 2020 from Naval Air Station Lemoore and declared the Initial Operational Capability (IOC) by the end of the year.
The Abraham Lincoln Combat Strike Group is led by the command staff of CSG 3 and consists of the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, Carrier Air Wing 9, the guided-missile cruiser USS Mobile Bay (CG 53) and the guided-missile destroyers of Destroyer Squadron 21 (DESRON 21) – USS Fitzgerald (DDG 62), USS Gridley (DDG 101), USS Sampson (DDG 102) and USS Spruance (DDG 111). This is also the first time in the U.S. Navy history that a woman, Capt. Amy Bauernschmidt, has been assigned the command of an aircraft carrier and will lead it on an operational deployment.
The Carrier Air Wing Nine includes eight squadrons: Marine Fighter Attack Squadron (VMFA) 314 “Black Knights”, flying F-35Cs; Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 14 “Tophatters” and Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 151 “Vigilantes”, flying F/A-18E Super Hornets; Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 41 “Black Aces”, flying F/A-18F Super Hornets; Electronic Attack Squadron (VAQ) 133 “Wizards”, flying EA-18G Growlers; Airborne Command & Control Squadron (VAW) 117 “Wallbangers”, flying E-2D Hawkeyes; Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron (HSC) 14 “Chargers”, flying MH-60S Knight Hawks Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 71 “Raptors”, flying MH-60R Sea Hawks.
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https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2022/01/u-s-navys-constellation-class-new-frigate-to-start-construction-this-year/
https://youtu.be/UACSEtTO4Ek
https://youtu.be/UACSEtTO4Ek
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- Post n°445
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U.S. Navy Reveals Plans and Ideas for the DDG(X) Next-Gen Destroyer
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2022/01/u-s-navy-reveals-plans-and-ideas-for-the-ddgx-next-gen-destroyer/
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2022/01/u-s-navy-reveals-plans-and-ideas-for-the-ddgx-next-gen-destroyer/
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- Post n°446
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https://news.usni.org/2022/01/24/usni-news-fleet-and-marine-tracker-jan-24-2022
An impressive show of force, although today's ejection isn't so good...
An impressive show of force, although today's ejection isn't so good...
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News incoming of a navy F-35 crash
At least 7 crew members of the USS Carl Vinson were injured after an F-35 fighter jet crash landed on the deck of an aircraft carrier in the South China Sea. https://t.co/w01l9zb0mt
Speculation is that it was a snapped cable
At least 7 crew members of the USS Carl Vinson were injured after an F-35 fighter jet crash landed on the deck of an aircraft carrier in the South China Sea. https://t.co/w01l9zb0mt
Speculation is that it was a snapped cable
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- Post n°448
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Snapped cables happen... normally when planes come in to catch the cable to go to full AB so if they miss or it snaps they can recover speed and do a go around and have another go.
Clearly this cable took a lot of momentum from the plane before it snapped.... that is just unlucky.
Clearly this cable took a lot of momentum from the plane before it snapped.... that is just unlucky.
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- Post n°449
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another one bites the dust...

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- Post n°450
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This is a good article saying that the US Navy could experience what happened to the Slava Class cruiser:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sinking-russias-flagship-might-bad-163928574.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sinking-russias-flagship-might-bad-163928574.html
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