mnztr wrote:The Otomat kinda lame compared to even Kaliber missiles let alone Tsirkon. The only ? with all the impressive Russian missiles is how they will target them. I wonder when we will find out this secret. Its possible the seeker is not in the nose but on a protected section of the missile body, which is why they have a high/plunging profile,(that and thinner air) look down on target, ID location and heading, from 20,000m@ Mach 7, it will plung down in 8 sec!!! kaboom!!
The "kinda lame" was for decades and still is , modernized as times goes by, the most powerful western ASM, with only RBS-15 coming close and the only one developed from beginning with middle course guidance.
It is not that EVERYTHING , EVERYWHERE has to be perceived as a male reproductive organ measurement contest.
Also because many have draw parallels noting how Sov/russian warships and Italian ones share many common traits beginning by the general appearance of their destroyers and frigate (and cruiser also until we both produced conventional ones) to the type and above all the impressive numbers of weapons we both fill our ships with.
Said so, Russia is a superpower, a real one, and so field both weaponries and even entire categories of military ships (let's say just one: nuclear submarines) we never eer even dreamt about.
Still, when we build some warship we built them at the highest possible standard (i.e. our own proprietary one, NATO standard is for pussies) and sporting by default systems that surpassed any contemporary NATO one.
The two things together, realism in programs and no compromise on quality, are actually working great as we have completed and launched all all our programmed FREMM a frigates and we are actually proceeding at full sails and perfectly on schedule with the most ambitious construction program our navy ever started after the end of WWII...while RN