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    Demented Central-Eastern European "Countries"

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    Post  GarryB Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:01 am

    Yeah, I don't see that as a welfare thing...

    In a communist country you don't own your house, so in effect what he was asking for was a place to live while he worked and served the state... even a prisoner gets a prison cell... do you think prisoners are spoiled with their 3x4 cell?

    Considering people who don't own houses in the west probably spend more than half their income on rent I would think state run houses makes sense, as long as it is managed properly which it never is.

    Different cultures think differently... in the west it is a race most of the time to get into your own place... you start as a renter in a flat with other renters and then you eventually find a partner and you rent together and if it gets serious you save to get a deposit to buy and then for the next 40 years you live in a house owned by your bank while you pay them off...

    In some countries you don't rent you live with your parents or your partners parents and save up much faster and you buy a house... but while you are saving you have built in baby sitters... and then when you buy your house your parents can retire and sell their house if you didn't buy it from them and they come to live with you and baby sit...

    The two real killers in western society is the price of houses and the price of child care...
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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:46 am

    GarryB wrote:Yeah, I don't see that as a welfare thing...

    In a communist country you don't own your house, so in effect what he was asking for was a place to live while he worked and served the state... even a prisoner gets a prison cell... do you think prisoners are spoiled with their 3x4 cell?

    Considering people who don't own houses in the west probably spend more than half their income on rent I would think state run houses makes sense, as long as it is managed properly which it never is.

    Different cultures think differently... in the west it is a race most of the time to get into your own place... you start as a renter in a flat with other renters and then you eventually find a partner and you rent together and if it gets serious you save to get a deposit to buy and then for the next 40 years you live in a house owned by your bank while you pay them off...

    In some countries you don't rent you live with your parents or your partners parents and save up much faster and you buy a house... but while you are saving you have built in baby sitters... and then when you buy your house your parents can retire and sell their house if you didn't buy it from them and they come to live with you and baby sit...

    The two real killers in western society is the price of houses and the price of child care...
    in Italy it was that in the past (even if it was laughed by some northern European countries). Actually now the problem is not that 20 and something stay at their parents house, but that they do not create their own family and do not have children.
    Next generation we will have maybe half of the italian population if we continue like that.

    But I can fully understand what you meant there. Neither I or my wife have family in the country were we live, and with small children it is not easy.
    Some if my acquaintances here decided to buy an apartment, but the prices are now way too high, and basically they got 30 years mortgages to pay for it.
    And in addition they had to move to a different (and less nice) areas of the city, because the prices of apartments were they rented before was even higher.

    I had to buy something, I would prefer maybe a house with a garden.

    Anyway, as you were pointing out, if you get a mortgage it is not your house, it is the bank's house, and you have to pay renovations and work yourself. Furthermore when you'll have finished paying it will be in need of serious renovation work.
    If you add that you'll have to pay also a sum upfront, basically canceling your savings and that since you have a mortgage it will be really difficult to get loans in case you want to start some work activity or so...

    At the end, buying is good if you have the money and or you can pay it with a relatively short term mortgage, AND, if you buy at a decent price. Currently the prices (at least where I live) are way too high, so you risk incurring large debt to get a house that in 5 years could lose 1/3 of the value (it happened to some friends in Italy)
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    Post  kvs Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:46 pm

    The question about our house was pure nonsense and not any sort of objective one. The expectation of the humans who are
    given everything that matters for free is that one gets those things for free. They also develop an entitlement complex where
    if they actually have to work to earn money to buy them or get any the skills to get the jobs they want, then they get resentful.

    It is funny how Posner is attacking Russians 30 years after the death of the USSR. He may have had some valid reason to do
    so back in 1989. But I remember him never doing something like that back then. So the "sheeple" are to be brow beaten only
    if they do not obey. Posner likes them dependent and under control.

    There was a reason communism failed. It did not deal with real human psychology. This fact cannot be fobbed off.



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    Post  kvs Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:23 am



    Some Polish dipshit went off on a rant that Russia will be able to invade any EU country after Nord Stream II is finished.
    Because it will not be dependent on land transit for its gas. This clown and similar is why stupid Pole jokes exist.

    Some yanqui admiral yapped that Russia is going out of bounds by securing itself in the Arctic and "threatens" US ships.
    Of course thus c*nt did not actually provide an real examples of Russia threatening ships. If Russia harasses some US
    tub violating its maritime borders and engaging "in your face" saber rattling, that does not count as a threat you stupid
    fuck. Bullies may try to write the rules, but this crap is pure intellectual insult. This windbag actually invoked the
    US EEZ as de facto territory and claimed that US fishing boats were threatened just because they were in the region
    of recent Russian naval exercises. Yet these turds send their tubs to violate Russia's borders because Russia is "claiming
    too much maritime territory" as they did near Vladivostok. These pathological liars ignore that such "irregular" claims
    occur in various bays around the world. It was the yanquis themselves that played games with misinformation to their
    own fishermen to generate fear.

    The yanquis are bitching that Russia has deployed Bastion coastal defense systems in the Bering Strait region and
    this can "coerce" shipping "preventing free passage" through the North Sea Route. At the same time these bitching
    yanquis manage to attack China. This is some epic drivel. The US does not need the NSR but China does. So
    the "concerns" of these bitches are phony at best and actually are malicious BS. The yanquis have ambitions of running
    the NSR like the run the Panama and Suez Canals. The yanqui blackmail mafia is acting the victim when it sees little
    chance of running its racket in the NSR.

    Poland has a debt of Euro 400 billion to the EU lenders that fluffed up its economy over the last 20 years.
    Recall all the bitching about Russia's foreign debt (private and public) and consider that the current population
    of Poland is 38 million and in Russia it is 146 million. Russia's total debt has gone down to under 400 billion US
    dollars. Approximating 400 billion euro for both, Russia has 26% of the debt per capita of Poland and can pay it off
    all at once just with its reserves. Any serious evaluation of the Polish economy puts it in the same debt bubble
    as Greece and it will experience a similar bursting sometime soon.








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    Post  flamming_python Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:38 pm

    kvs wrote:

    Demented Ukr historical revisionists are claiming that borsch is an exclusively Ukrainian food.  
    This is exactly the sort of inane stealing of Russian history that these nazionlist fucks engage in.
    So anything before 1990 that was Russian has become magically Ukrainian.  

    BTW, Poland has a type of borsch too, does Banderastan claim it for itself as well?   And
    Borsch historically extends through a large part of northern Asia.   Of course all the NATzO
    sources are helping Ukr nazionalists by hyping up the "fact" that it did not originate in
    Russia.   Well, Ukraine is a historical fiction that sits on the land of Kievan Rus.

    In the video, Ostashko gives an example of the annual battle for borsch when Ukr svidomites
    start piling on some social media post with borsch in it.   Here we had some Russian comedian
    likely innocently posting a photo of his borsch plate and a storm of svidomite hate ensued
    with 7,000 haters trying to piss on him.   The interesting thing is not all of these nazionalist
    revisionist losers but the Russian posters.   All of them were making fun of the Ukr idiots.
    There were no mobs of svidomite liberast Russians supporting the Ukr revisionism.  

    NATzO has lost the battle for Russian hearts and minds.   Its only choice as wannabe rulers
    of the planet is to wage a war of extermination.   I think the Russian leadership understands
    this fact.


    Borsch is Ukrainian in origin, but has been a staple dish in Russia proper for centuries too, at this point there are Russian, Ukrainian, Polish variants of Borsch and they have slight differences from one another

    Yet when you're making Ukrainian borsch you call it that. Where's the appropriation or what not?

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