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    Post  GarryB on Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:00 am

    Hahahahahaha... incompetent morons....
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    Post  kvs on Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:11 am



    The BBC is claiming that Russia "stole" borscht from Ukraine. F*cking retards. There is even a Polish variant of
    borscht. In 1860 there were at least 3 variants including one from Malorossiya, part of which was made over into
    the fake state called Ukraine.

    The whole Ukraine project is rooted in the effort to steal Russia's history and hand it over to the clowns who call themselves
    Ukrainians, aka Banderastanis. They claim that the 120 million ethnic Russians are some sort of squatter tribe on Ukrainian
    land and that Kievan Rus was actually Ukraine. The fact that the word Ukraine didn't even exist in 1860 doesn't stop these
    fake history scumbags making all sorts of ludicrous claims. Ukr "historians" even claim that Ukraine existed 40,000 years ago
    when the human migration out of Africa was still ongoing.

    Naturally, Ukrs don't admit that all their excrement spew about Russians not being Slavs can be easily debunked by modern
    genetics studies. Modern genetics analysis can even identify mass migrations such a was the done for the Altai region population.
    It was established that there was mass migration out Altai about 15,000 years ago and that the ancestors of New World aboriginals
    are likely to have come from there (with some other mixing en route and of course genetic and cultural divergence). I am quite
    sure that it is the Ukrs that are less Slavic than Russians. They are a mixture of Romanians, Poles, Slovaks, even Spaniards
    (who fled the Inquisition), and Hungarians. Unfortunately, the ethnic Russians who live on the territory called Ukraine have
    been assimilated into this fake ethnicity.

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    Post  kvs on Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:14 pm



    BBC propagandists and Russia haters have their panties in a bunch over Russia making it into the top 30 of countries in rank of
    ease of doing business.
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:42 pm

    kvs wrote:

    The BBC is claiming that Russia "stole" borscht from Ukraine.    F*cking retards.    There is even a Polish variant of
    borscht.   In 1860 there were at least 3 variants including one from Malorossiya, part of which was made over into
    the fake state called Ukraine.  

    The whole Ukraine project is rooted in the effort to steal Russia's history and hand it over to the clowns who call themselves
    Ukrainians, aka Banderastanis.   They claim that the 120 million ethnic Russians are some sort of squatter tribe on Ukrainian
    land and that Kievan Rus was actually Ukraine.   The fact that the word Ukraine didn't even exist in 1860 doesn't stop these
    fake history scumbags making all sorts of ludicrous claims.   Ukr "historians" even claim that Ukraine existed 40,000 years ago
    when the human migration out of Africa was still ongoing.  

    Naturally, Ukrs don't admit that all their excrement spew about Russians not being Slavs can be easily debunked by modern
    genetics studies.   Modern genetics analysis can even identify mass migrations such a was the done for the Altai region population.
    It was established that there was mass migration out Altai about 15,000 years ago and that the ancestors of New World aboriginals
    are likely to have come from there (with some other mixing en route and of course genetic and cultural divergence).   I am quite
    sure that it is the Ukrs that are less Slavic than Russians.   They are a mixture of Romanians, Poles, Slovaks, even Spaniards
    (who fled the Inquisition), and Hungarians.   Unfortunately, the ethnic Russians who live on the territory called Ukraine have
    been assimilated into this fake ethnicity.



    I am asking you this for the SECOND time on this forum: where did you get Spaniards settling in Ukraine from?

    You still have to reply to my first question.

    Any sources?

    From what I know Spaniards never settled either in Poland or Ukraine.

    There were some Sephardic Jews who settled in Poland, but Jews are not Spaniards.

    I would be very curious to see any evidence for this claim.


    You know very well that above all Ukrainians are a bunch of transplanted Varangians. They even have the same national colors as Sweden and they sided with that country against Poland and Russia during the Great Northern War of 1700-1721 (you can check a very recent post by me about it).


    Can you stop posting groundless bull-shit on this forum?


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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:15 pm

    Ukrainians are mostly East Slavic in anvestry, as Belarussiana and Russians. Look up any genetic map. They are completely the same people. There is a slightly higher % of Uralic DNA in North Russia as in the Middle Ages Slavs absorbed the Ugro-Finnic populations who had lived there before them.
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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:59 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Ukrainians are mostly East Slavic in anvestry, as Belarussiana and Russians. Look up any genetic map. They are completely the same people. There is a slightly higher % of Uralic DNA in North Russia as in the Middle Ages Slavs absorbed the Ugro-Finnic populations who had lived there before them.



    They are bunch of Slavic-speaking Varangians, albeit not in a pure form.

    There is for example more significant Vlach (Romanian) ancestry among them, albeit ethnic Poles also have it.

    I am sure there are other admixtures.


    Recently someone on another forum complained that some genetic company "must have made a mistake" because ethnic Ukrainians turned out to be "surprisingly" (but not for me) closely genetically related to ethnic Swedes.

    So at last it starts to show up.

    There are even similarities in their behavior like the brutal and bloodthirsty behavior of the Swedish invaders in Poland and the Ukrainian nationalists' genocidal activities directed against ethnic Poles during the Second World War.

    During earlier times the Ukrainian Zaporozhian Cossacks could be regarded as a continuation of earlier Varangian "traditions."

    Even their national colors are identical.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:45 am

    Rolling Eyes lol1  *PROJECTION*


    Ben Hodges: Russia will attack Belarus if it considers it profitable

    Russia may well repeat the “Ukrainian scenario” in Belarus, attacking it, said former commander of US forces in Europe Ben Hodges. He told about this in an interview with the Belsat television channel.

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    Russia may attack an independent and sovereign Belarus, if it considers that it is beneficial to it, the American general is convinced. According to Hodges, Minsk has recently been establishing ties with the United States, and Moscow may not like this. At the same time, he emphasized that it is in the interests of the United States that President Lukashenko continue to resist pressure from Putin and not deploy Russian troops on the territory of the republic.

    (...) for security in the West, it is better if there are no troops of the Russian Federation in Belarus. Thus, if President Lukashenko can withstand pressure and does not allow them to be placed in Belarus, this reduces the danger to Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, and Ukraine. I think it's good

    - said Hodges.

    The general noted that if Russia decides to use force and occupy Belarus, as it was in Ukraine, then some European countries that are now trying to justify it may turn their backs on it. At the same time, if Russia considers it appropriate, it will attack a sovereign republic, this can be judged by the history of Russia.

    I studied the history of Russia over the past three centuries; I believe that they would not be ashamed to use force if they were told that it was necessary

    - stressed the general, adding that the West is interested in Belarus being able to maintain a certain independence and sovereignty, although it has very strong economic and cultural ties with Russia.



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    Post  GarryB on Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:09 am

    Yeah, I studied the last three decades of US history and think they are a bunch of censored who would sell their own grandmother into prostitution if it gave them more money or oil or both.

    The US funded several illegal coups in a dozen countries... including several attempts in the Ukraine with the purpose of overthrowing the legitimate governments and then asset stripping the country... they have already done it to the Ukraine, and blamed Russia for it, and now they are clearly going to try to do it in Belarus and are pre-blaming Russia for that as well.

    Note his words:

    I believe that they would not be ashamed to use force if they were told that it was necessary

    Yeah.... it is America that has no shame... they have fucked over the Ukraine... it is a country in the toilet being asset stripped as we speak... with officials appointed or fired on demand by US politicians and ex vice presidents... and they clearly have no shame regarding the situation they have placed the Ukrainians in, so it is easy to deduce that they will have no feelings for the people of Belarus when they try to do the same thing there...

    Problem is that the people of Belarus are not stupid and have seen first hand what the game is... divide, destroy and conquer... they have destroyed the Ukraine... which means a potential ally of Russia is eliminated for the next few decades at least... Belarus is next in their sights... they might create a strong anti Russia ally, or they might destroy the country... they don't care... either suits them.
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    Post  kvs on Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:20 pm



    Poles have serious issues with their officials. The head of PGNiG (the national gas company of Poland) is running around pooping
    on the heads of the Poles that US LNG will cost 30% less than Russia's piped gas. This is the complete inversion of reality since
    LNG can never cost less than piped gas as it typically involves burning 30% of it to liquify. That is the same price has to be
    demanded for 70% if the volume to have cost equilibrium.

    In other words, this Polish chimp is claiming the opposite of the truth. In reality, it is US LNG that will be 30% more expensive
    than Russian piped gas. In the short run the US can use dumping tricks and sell for a loss to sucker EU-tards but in the long
    run the price has to reflect the cost of liquifaction.

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    Post  kvs on Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:53 pm



    The British MSM is crapping its pants over the summit of African leaders in Russia. At the same time the liberast 5th column
    is spouting its usual racist drivel at Russia such as: Russia is becoming an African country and has a long tradition of cannibalism.
    This comes from the mouth of Leonid Gozman, who is a Jew, somehow it is OK for Jews to be racist against everyone, but if
    you criticize Israel for killing Palestinian civilians and ethnic cleansing, well then, your some anti-Semite. BTW, Semites includes
    Arabs and not only Jews, so the whole label "anti-Semite" is POS construct.

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    Post  Hole on Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:16 pm

    If I remember correctly the term "anti-semite" was created by Goebbels or one of his minions. Back then it was a positive label.
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    Post  jhelb on Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:48 pm

    GarryB wrote:Problem is that the people of Belarus are not stupid and have seen first hand what the game is... divide, destroy and conquer...

    That is correct. Western efforts to divide, destroy and conquer is working. Not too many people in Belarus know how to stop it.

    The west have deep pockets and are buying key influencers in the countries that they target.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:05 pm

    In the United States called the "way to capture" Kaliningrad by NATO troops

    American analysts are exploring the possibility of seizing the Kaliningrad region.

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    According to RIA Novosti , citing a report by Richard Hooker, senior researcher at the Jamestown Foundation (USA), a similar prospect should be considered in NATO.

    The analyst also suggests that this can be done by building up the US and Poland ground forces in the region under consideration. In this case, as noted in the document, Russia allegedly will not be able to resist the onslaught of the enemy. As a result, this situation will lead to the loss of control over the territory by the Russian Federation.
    It is noted that military operations will develop only at the regional level. Otherwise, the escalation of the conflict will lead to mass destruction and civilian casualties.

    It is curious that the reason for such a hypothetical conflict is not even clearly formulated. It is only an opinion that is already getting tired and not substantiated by weighty arguments that Russia seems to have some plans for the Baltic states.


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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:30 pm


    Russians shown in the new Call of Duty an absolute evil

    The long-awaited new first-person shooter Call of Duty: Modern Warfare version of 2019 is on sale for only a few days, but has already caused a storm of indignation in the community of Russian-speaking gamers and negative reviews in the media. The reason is the monstrous propaganda image of the Russians.
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    Players - the public is traditionally and strongly politically neutral. And the “bad Russians” in computer games, the characters are already quite familiar. However, what was shown in the plot campaign Modern Warfare, surpassed everything that flashed earlier. Moreover, not only in the Call of Duty series, but also in the gaming industry in general.





    Instead of the promised “ambiguity” and “gray morality” of the developers, the most recent Activision product has accentuated accents. The Russians, who are called “Barkov’s people” in censored Russian dubbing, are shown to players from all over the world as absolute evil, real cannibals, for whom methods are not chosen, and the story itself revolves around a fictional Middle Eastern country, in which, however, Syria is unmistakably guessed.

    The Americans, the British, and the Arab militants collaborating with them, massively killing Russians, on the contrary, are exposed as real heroes, demonstrating their “ambiguity” only a couple of times. Although their unsightly deeds are quickly blurred by plot excuses, claiming that all this is for a good cause.

    A number of streamers have already refused the public passage of the game precisely for moral reasons, calling the game "cheap propaganda."



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    Post  kvs on Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:09 pm



    More on Russia's growing engagement with Africa. Deutsche-Welle pulled some "shmexpert" from its collective anus who
    called Russia building a nuclear power plant as a "racket". There is a rude Russian expression: oni srut lyozha. Translated
    it means they are crapping while lying down, i.e. they have totally lost it. The video shows some replies to this DW
    diarrhea and one points out the blood diamond trade going to the EU. That is a real racket. In fact, the west's whole
    history in Africa has been nothing but a bloody colonial racket.

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    Post  kvs on Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:11 pm

    Ever since I came to the west decades ago I have noted how the anti-Soviet and now anti-Russian propaganda has been propagated
    not just via the news but through movies, TV and games. Basically the west's anti-Russian hate campaign is full spectrum and every
    medium is used to brainwash the western sheeple into the hate narratives.

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    Post  GarryB on Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:51 am

    Indeed, you can be anti anything except anti Russian or anti Serbian or anti Iranian or anti North Korean or anti Cuban or anti Chinese these days in the west.

    You can lose your job for calling a man with his dick cut off a man because he now prefers to be called a woman, but you will have no such problems calling any one of the above anything you like...
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    Post  PhSt on Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:21 am

    Wikipedia is spewing more anti Russian propaganda shit again. This time the Russian government is Exclusively labelled as a form of "Authoritarian System"  angry

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    Meanwhile, other countries that is obviously Authoritarian has NO mention of such term in their own respective pages.  Rolling Eyes

    Saudi Arabia
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    North Korea
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    This is clear proof that western operated so-called "INDEPENDENT" institutions/organizations cannot be trusted no matter how hard they advertise/claim themselves to be impartial in the work that they do.

    And didn't Russia planned on setting up their own alternative to Wikipedia several years ago? Whatever happened to that project? NATO will not hesitate to use all tools at their disposal to smear Russia whenever opportunity presents itself. Enough is enough. Russia needs to hit back and build a formidable force in the information space.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:30 am

    Did you see CoD: Modern Warfare?

    They managed to turn the Highway of Death into a Russian atrocity. They also portray Jihadsts as good guys.

    I am not buying the game at least not in the near future.
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    Post  andalusia on Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:43 pm

    I just want to know is the protests in Hong Kong really about democracy or is the West engaging in subversive tactics? Their was an NBA executive that tweeted his support for the Hong Kong protesters and China was upset about it.  What is the truth?

    https://www.vox.com/2019/6/11/18661007/hong-kong-protest-2019-china-extradition

    http://www.unz.com/avltchek/western-media-portrays-hong-kong-hooligans-as-heroes-but-are-they/

    http://www.unz.com/article/hands-off-hong-kong-the-cry-that-seldom-is-heard/

    I heard that China wanted the NBA to fire this executive but the NBA said no.  What is shocking is that Twitter is banned in China so nobody knows about his tweet.  I support the NBA on this as the Chinese government has no reason to tell the NBA that Daryl Morey should be fired for something he said in the US.  It is not like he was over there saying it; moreover, nobody has twitter over in China so his tweet is unknown.  

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/business/daryl-morey-tweet-nba-china/index.html


    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2019/10/17/china-wanted-daryl-morey-fired-nba-adam-silver-refused/4014011002/
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:28 pm

    andalusia wrote:I just want to know is the protests in Hong Kong really about democracy or is the West engaging in subversive tactics? Their was an NBA executive that tweeted his support for the Hong Kong protesters and China was upset about it.  What is the truth?

    https://www.vox.com/2019/6/11/18661007/hong-kong-protest-2019-china-extradition

    http://www.unz.com/avltchek/western-media-portrays-hong-kong-hooligans-as-heroes-but-are-they/

    http://www.unz.com/article/hands-off-hong-kong-the-cry-that-seldom-is-heard/

    I heard that China wanted the NBA to fire this executive but the NBA said no.  What is shocking is that Twitter is banned in China so nobody knows about his tweet.  I support the NBA on this as the Chinese government has no reason to tell the NBA that Daryl Morey should be fired for something he said in the US.  It is not like he was over there saying it; moreover, nobody has twitter over in China so his tweet is unknown.  

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/business/daryl-morey-tweet-nba-china/index.html


    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2019/10/17/china-wanted-daryl-morey-fired-nba-adam-silver-refused/4014011002/

    They want Chinese money, but they also want to be disrespectful and dictate what China should and shouldn't do. You cant just go to your boss expecting a pay check and maintaining your job position while being constantly disrespectful and disobedient. Easy solution: leave the Chinese market, this way they can keep their moral stance without compromising their beliefs. You cant have it both ways.Embarassed
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    Post  andalusia on Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:07 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    andalusia wrote:I just want to know is the protests in Hong Kong really about democracy or is the West engaging in subversive tactics? Their was an NBA executive that tweeted his support for the Hong Kong protesters and China was upset about it.  What is the truth?

    https://www.vox.com/2019/6/11/18661007/hong-kong-protest-2019-china-extradition

    http://www.unz.com/avltchek/western-media-portrays-hong-kong-hooligans-as-heroes-but-are-they/

    http://www.unz.com/article/hands-off-hong-kong-the-cry-that-seldom-is-heard/

    I heard that China wanted the NBA to fire this executive but the NBA said no.  What is shocking is that Twitter is banned in China so nobody knows about his tweet.  I support the NBA on this as the Chinese government has no reason to tell the NBA that Daryl Morey should be fired for something he said in the US.  It is not like he was over there saying it; moreover, nobody has twitter over in China so his tweet is unknown.  

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/business/daryl-morey-tweet-nba-china/index.html


    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2019/10/17/china-wanted-daryl-morey-fired-nba-adam-silver-refused/4014011002/

    They want Chinese money, but they also want to be disrespectful and dictate what China should and shouldn't do. You cant just go to your boss expecting a pay check and maintaining your job position while being constantly disrespectful and disobedient. Easy solution: leave the Chinese market, this way they can keep their moral stance without compromising their beliefs. You cant have it both ways.Embarassed



    Explain to me what the NBA is doing in being disrespectful and dictate what China should and shouldn't do?
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    Post  PhSt on Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:27 pm

    Did you see CoD: Modern Warfare?

    They managed to turn the Highway of Death into a Russian atrocity. They also portray Jihadsts as good guys.

    I am not buying the game at least not in the near future.

    Good example of America's use of its soft/ cultural power for political ends. Both Russia and China needs to make their own domestic alternatives to American cultural products such as TV shows, Computer games, Films, Sports, etc.

    And as for not buying the game in the near future, why not just get a Pirated copy? That way Activision will not get even a single dime from your hard earned money.


    Explain to me what the NBA is doing in being disrespectful and dictate what China should and shouldn't do?

    Voicing support for Hong kong Rioters/ Separatists is a BIG NO. NBA officials and players needs to STAY AWAY from political topics. Again, this is an example of America's use of its soft power to interfere with other country's domestic affairs. NBA and Blizzard are being used against China while COD: MW is being used against Russia. Both countries needs to develop their own alternatives to everything American and then promote it to other countries to counter American soft power influence across the world. They should be doing this RIGHT NOW and not tomorrow.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:44 pm

    The Chinese already make very good TV shows but very crappy video games. Their TV series and movies are msotly for domestic market too.

    Russia did make several highly acclaimed video games but they don't touch sensitive topics.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:51 am

    Explain to me what the NBA is doing in being disrespectful and dictate what China should and shouldn't do?

    OK, how about this... some Russian officials start telling the US police to stop shooting black people because black lives do matter... and if they don't stop funding regime change and coloured revolutions around the world that Russia might start funding undesirable groups in the US directly.

    The show ponies in Hong Kong rose up in protest because Hong Kong was introducing extradition laws to China... they already have extradition agreements with the US and you can bet they only go one way... are you understanding this?

    So it is democratic and free for the US to extradite a citizen of Hong Kong to the US... which the US does all the time in political cases like Assange and that Russian pilot, and various people they have accused of hacking, but it is not OK to have a similar agreement with China because China is evil and will abuse and misuse such a law... you know... like America does all the time...

    Yeah, HK protests are completely spontaneous and not funded directly by the US or George Soros...

    BTW you probably get regular updates about these riots in Hong Kong... do you get any coverage from any other riots like France whose yellow jacket riots have gone on for over a year, or the riots in Spain? ...riots happening everywhere but only time for HK riots... right... that is not biased.

    BTW Twitter has an office in Hong Kong and is only banned on mainland China... but surely your tell the truth reveal the whole picture tell all sides of the story western media already mentioned that... Twisted Evil

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