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    Post  Isos on Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:16 pm

    It must be at the level of Yasen now but without the VLS.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:41 am

    Off Topic stuff moved to talking bollocks thread in general chat section...

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    Post  franco on Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:51 pm

    Deliveries of ships and vessels for the Navy in 2020

    Continuing program of modernization of the naval fleet . This year, the shipbuilding industry has delivered several dozen ships and vessels of various classes, having fulfilled most of the established plans. In addition, measures are being taken to solve urgent problems, a technological reserve for the future is being created and new ships are being laid.

    General indicators

    On December 11, the naval command revealed the preliminary results of the outgoing year. By that time it was built and handed over to the fleet approx. 40 pennants of different classes are submarines, warships and boats, as well as auxiliary vessels of different classes. At the time of publication of that information, four more warships were expected to be delivered, and by now three of them have been included in the fleet.

    This year, the ships and vessels ordered under the current State Arms Program for 2011-2020 were handed over. Its goal was to increase the share of modern models in the armed forces to 70%. At the beginning of the year, it was reported that by that time the share of new samples in the Navy had reached 63%. Obviously, the delivery of more than 40 orders and the delivery of other systems will further increase this figure.

    Underwater update

    Submarine construction continues for several major projects. However, this year the fleet received only two submarines, and the delivery of the next several has been postponed to 2021. In addition, several new ships of different classes and designs are expected next year.

    In June, the Northern Fleet included a new strategic submarine missile carrier "Knyaz Vladimir" pr. 955A "Borey". This is the fourth SSBN of the new project in the Navy and the second for the KSF.

    In October, the Pacific Fleet received its second diesel-electric submarine, project 636.3. The ship "Volkhov" joined the existing "Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky" and is preparing to solve training and combat missions. The transfer of the third submarine of this series is expected next year.

    For the surface fleet

    The main news in the context of the renewal of the surface forces was the long-awaited acceptance into the fleet of the first serial frigate, project 22350 - "Fleet Admiral Kasatonov". Due to this, since July 2020, the Northern Fleet has two ships of this type. Receiving the third, Admiral Golovko, is expected next year.

    On December 25, the newest corvette "Hero of the Russian Federation Aldar Tsydenzhapov" pr. 20380 was accepted into the Pacific Fleet. This is the seventh ship of its project and the third one in the KTOF. By the end of the month, the surface forces of the latter will receive another corvette, built according to a similar project.

    In November, the third small missile ship, project 22800, Odintsovo, was handed over to the Baltic Fleet. The next ship of this series is planned to be delivered in a year. At the same time, the series is gaining momentum. Five ships of this project are being completed at the wall and preparing for testing at once, and one more will be launched in the near future.

    At the end of November, the Black Sea Fleet took over the third patrol ship, project 22160, Pavel Derzhavin. In the near future, the fourth building will be launched, which is planned to be completed and tested by the end of next year.

    On December 23, the handover ceremony of the second large landing ship, project 11711, took place. After several years of testing, "Petr Morgunov" was transferred to the KSF; he will serve along with the lead "Ivan Gren". This completes the construction of ships on the base project 11711. New BDK will be built according to the updated project.

    On December 26, the Pacific Fleet received another mine defense ship Yakov Balyaev, built on Project 12700. This is already the fifth minesweeper of its type - and the first ship of a new generation within the KTOF.

    During the year, significant numbers of boats of various types and for various purposes were transferred to several naval formations. In particular, within the framework of the third contract, the delivery of boats of project 03160 to the Baltic Fleet is being carried out. It was delivered three units from July to November and new pennants will appear in the near future.

    Until the end of this year, the fleet plans to accept only one combat ship. Recently state tests were completed by the lead corvette of project 20385 - "Thundering". Right now, the ship is being prepared for delivery to the customer and for raising the flag. Like a number of other new products this year, it will go to KTOF.

    Auxiliary composition

    In March, the Northern Fleet received a new auxiliary / oceanographic vessel "Akademik Aleksandrov" pr. 20183. The ship with a displacement of 5.5 thousand tons is intended for research and search and rescue operations, is capable of carrying deep-sea vehicles and can carry various cargoes. KSF already has one such vessel, and for several years a unified weapons transport of the project 20183TV has been serving as part of the KTOF.

    The Hydrographic Service of the Navy received two new vessels this year. These are the small vessel of the project 19910 "Nikolay Skosyrev" and the large hydrographic boat of the project 19920 "Alexander Makorta". Three more similar BGKs are in a high degree of readiness, and they may be commissioned in the near future. In addition, two large boats, project 23040G and one project 23370G, passed state tests. All these vessels will be distributed between the Northern, Baltic and Black Sea fleets.

    In February, the Black Sea Fleet received the small tug of the project 23470 "Sergey Balk". The next vessel of this type, "Andrey Stepanov", has been tested and is preparing to be handed over to the customer.

    A significant number of auxiliary vessels of several classes and types are at various stages of construction and testing. Some of these orders will be delivered during the next 2021, while others are expected later.

    Backlog for the future

    For the further development of the Navy, new systems, components and technologies are needed. In this context, promising weapons attract the greatest attention. So, in the future, various warships of the Navy will be able to get a new hypersonic anti-ship missile "Zircon". This product is being successfully tested, and the next launches took place recently. Defense industry sources report successful completion of the 2020 test program.

    The deployment of the new missile system will begin in the near future. The missile is compatible with universal launchers, which seriously expands the range of potential carriers. The latter are considered ships and submarines of several types of modern construction, as well as modernized ships of old projects.

    Over the past few years, military shipbuilding has faced the problem of the lack of imported propulsion systems. At the end of November, the United Engine Corporation handed over to the shipbuilders the first M55R unit intended for installation on the new frigate of project 22350. The appearance of this product will allow the construction to continue and the planned 5-7 ships to be transferred to the fleet.

    With an eye to the future, new ships and vessels are laid, incl. recent projects. The main news in this area came in June, when the laying of two universal amphibious assault ships, project 23900, took place. Also this year frigates and corvettes, submarines of various classes and numerous auxiliary vessels were laid.

    Work continues

    During this year, shipbuilders handed over to the navy more than 40 combat and auxiliary units of different classes. Several more pennants are expected in accordance with naval traditions - "under the herringbone". In general, from the point of view of updating the ship composition, the outgoing 2020 can be considered successful. It will leave a noticeable mark in the form of new ships and vessels that can serve for several decades.

    The implementation of the current plans was not easy and in some cases faced the already known difficulties. Only recently it was possible to solve the problem of import substitution of propulsion systems, after long years of waiting, an end was put in the disputes around the UDC, the topic of cutting plans for the construction of ships, etc., was repeatedly raised. One of the consequences of such difficulties was the shift in the delivery dates of individual ships.

    However, the fleet and industry have coped with some difficulties and are now dealing with other tasks that are urgent and aimed at the future. On the whole, 2020 ends successfully, and the next year, 2021, promises new important events.

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    Post  George1 on Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:05 pm

    A detachment of warships of the Red Banner Pacific Fleet of the Russian Navy in Indonesia

    On December 17, 2020, a detachment of warships of the Red Banner Pacific Fleet of the Russian Navy as part of the flagship of the Pacific Fleet of the Guards Order of Nakhimov, the missile cruiser Varyag of project 1164 Atlant, the large anti-submarine ship Admiral Panteleev of project 1155 and the medium sea tanker Pechenga, took part in the joint Russian-Indonesian naval exercises RUSINDO-20, held in the Java Sea.

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    Prior to this, a detachment of KTOF warships of the Russian Navy made a business call at the port of Tanjung Perak (Surabaya, Indonesia). During the stay, the KTOF ships replenished their water and fuel supplies.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:55 pm

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    Post  Hole on Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:38 pm

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    Not bad for a country where the Navy is ranked after SRF, Army and Air Force.

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    Post  LMFS on Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:47 pm

    And that is just the beginning, a very difficult one by the way. They have 6x 22350 in construction, with plans of delivering one per year, plus 2 additional ones contracted just waiting to be laid down, next year 2 x 885M, 2 x 955A, 1 x 22350, 2 x 20380 should be delivered. It is questionable if they are going to deliver 5 x nuclear submarines in one year (Belgorod is also scheduled for 2021), but the pace is very different from what we saw at the beginning of this century. For 2022, the Kuznetsov and Nakhimov should return to service as the capital ships of a renewed oceanic fleet, which besides will be by then equipped with Tsirkon. Plus the 949 and 971 returning to service, also adapted for the missile, the 20385 having solved the engine problems, Poliment-Redut operational... in five years it will be difficult to recognise the VMF.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:51 am

    Indeed, but lots of work to do... they need to start on destroyers now and finalise a design they can build and test the guts out of and then get into production too and that will essentially just leave cruisers and CVNs left for them to work on for the future...

    Right now producing new corvettes and new frigates to build up the local Russian fleet makes more sense than rushing making CVNs before they even have new destroyers to go anywhere with them.

    Will be very interesting to see what upgrades they have applied to the Kuznetsov... the talk of catapult support for aircraft will be interesting to see because I don't think it is conventional... the terminology was vague and ambiguous...
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    Post  Arrow on Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:58 am


    The destroyer design is ready. This is a 22350M frigate. Only in name because it is a destroyer with enormous power of destruction. The question is when will they start building?
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    Post  LMFS on Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:54 am

    Clearly the idea is to work on the conceptual aspects of new ships and weapons, that require calm and quality of resources above all, while the industrial aspects of currently produced ones are sorted out. And since industrial aspects demand quantity of resources and the accumulation of work in a proper sequence, they cannot be hurried. That is why Rakhmanov said no carrier before 15 years, because that is what it takes to bring the industry (all the industry and not just shipyards) up to speed, substitute old Soviet ships, manage to produce subs, frigates and corvettes with closed eyes and only then, when all those topics are under control and a realistic planning can be established, tackle the task of creating the core of the oceanic fleet in the progression 22350M -> 23560 -> CVN, since it makes no sense to create carriers and then realize you don't have ships and subs for their escort. For most of this decade the VMF will be limited in the type of missions they can perform in the open ocean, but I think they will manage to have a say thanks to Tsirkon, Nakhimov + Kuznetsov and the SSGNs

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    Post  Arrow on Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:00 pm

    For most of this decade the VMF will be limited in the type of missions they can perform in the open ocean, but I think they will manage to have a say thanks to Tsirkon, Nakhimov + Kuznetsov and the SSGNs wrote:

    Russia already dominates the seas that surround it. In the Black Sea, Baltic Sea, Ochocki, Barents, Kaspisjkie. And especially in the Arctic. It does not need CVN for the Arctic because Russian bases are within its reach. Russia is planning to build 8 powerful icebreakers for its domination in the Arctic.
    The question is whether in the future they will focus on aircraft carriers groups or, as Mindstorm claims, on a dispersed fleet?



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    Post  LMFS on Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:23 am

    Arrow wrote:Russia already dominates the seas that surround it. In the Black Sea, Baltic Sea, Ochocki, Barents, Kaspisjkie. And especially in the Arctic. It does not need CVN for the Arctic because Russian bases are within its reach. Russia is planning to build 8 powerful icebreakers for its domination in the Arctic.
    The question is whether in the future they will focus on aircraft carriers groups or, as Mindstorm claims, on a dispersed fleet?

    Again, carriers are not for the near sea zone, so no point in discussing that. A single MiG-31K will make anyone think twice before doing anything silly closer than 2,000 km from Russia. But to keep presence and stabilise a situation in a distant country, to replenish military bases abroad and in conclusion to increase the number of allies they need a navy that is self protected and self sustained at big distances of the homeland, and that can sail to any point of the world ocean without being more of a liability than an asset for Russia. So, they need the oceanic fleet.

    In my humble opinion: the "distributed lethality" is a capacity the VMF has already satisfactorily implemented and Tsirkon will only make that lethality overwhelming for the next 5 to 10 years. What they are missing are big hulls with the needed sea keeping, autonomy, magazine depth, air power and systems needed to sustain operations in distant areas of the world ocean.

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    Post  Arrow on Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:22 am

    already satisfactorily implemented and Tsirkon will only make that lethality overwhelming for the next 5 to 10 years wrote:

    It is very doubtful that the Western navies would introduce such advanced anti-ship missiles as the Tsirkon. They won't even reach the upgrade level of the Onix. In addition, the Russians attach it to ships with a displacement of 900 tons. And what the LCS USA weapons look like is a lot of laughter.Russian frigates are much better armed than their Western counterparts. The US at this time must order frigates in Europe ...

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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:26 am

    The US has enormous pockets and literally prints its own money... for last century and until quite recently it had no rivals... no one really even came close... at best the Soviets had four anti sub Kiev class carriers that could also carry big anti ship missiles, and there were Kirov class cruisers and Oscar class subs.... everything else was not very scary to them at all... though late model Victors were getting rather good and the Akula was dangerous as was the Sierras... and the Alpha was a surprise... the thing is that there were never a lot of them and they weren't used aggressively trying to take Americas place in any way.

    Now the Chinese are building lots of new ships and Russia is clearly in the process of doing more than just having a fleet of tiny corvettes and frigates... even their corvettes and frigates are 21st century in terms of electronics.

    In the US Navy the only ships that are net centric are their AEGIS cruisers together with their new carriers... their smaller ships are not so tied in and digital...

    It is a bit like on land where the west has the same old 70 vehicles they have had for almost 50 years and Russia is in the process of introducing not one new family, but three new families of scratch designed new vehicles... like the navy it will take time to get it all in to service and working properly but all vehicles have excellent sensors and weapons and communications systems and are all linked in together as a proper team...

    The Navy and Air Force are keen to do the same.

    The west is left behind and has a lot of work to do but the idea that they will get together and develop something they can all agree on... because it needs to link together with HATO allies when they cooperate... who sets the standard... US, France, UK, Germany, Italy, Spain... etc etc...
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:38 am

    Russia is considering the possibility of creating floating airfields
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    For further use in the Arctic zone, Russia is considering the possibility of creating floating airfields. The Nevskoye Design Bureau has already taken up this issue.

    This is reported in the materials of the PKB, dedicated to the 90th anniversary of this organization and received at the disposal of the news agency TASS.

    It says that such floating platforms will become centers that resolve issues of providing all spheres of activity of the Russian Federation and its partners in the Arctic zone. Now the bureau is carrying out a pre-design study of the constructive appearance of these unusual airfields.

    The Nevsky PKB reported that such floating platforms are capable of providing aircraft with their runways in any weather in the harsh conditions of the Arctic. They can be used by transport, military and rescue aviation... They will serve as a basis for the development of Arctic gas fields, ensure the safe operation of the Northern Sea Route, and will also be used to solve the tasks set by the Russian Ministry of Defense.

    The Nevsky Design Bureau is part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation. It created about 300 ships and vessels, including the flagships of the fleets of Russia, China and India.

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