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TheArmenian wrote:Speaking of Russian Frigates, The Burevestnik (Krivak) class Ladnyy is back in service after having her engines replaced by the ones from the Kara class cruiser Kerch (which is gone to the scrapyard).
as patrol ship and for additional antisub work it is probably ok, even if it is under armed for a modern frigate and it has a large complement of people in comparison to its capabilities.Big_Gazza wrote:TheArmenian wrote:Speaking of Russian Frigates, The Burevestnik (Krivak) class Ladnyy is back in service after having her engines replaced by the ones from the Kara class cruiser Kerch (which is gone to the scrapyard).
Interesting... I never realised that the low-power turbines on the 1134B were also used as the main turbines of the 1135. Yeah, that makes sense I guess.
Big_Gazza wrote:...The Neustrashimy is AFAIK still tied up at the Baltiysk shipyard, Google earth image from Mar 2020
Rodion_Romanovic wrote:...Anyway, it is a 40 years old antisub patrol ship, but it can still be useful for a few years until a proper replacement is built (either a proper frigate or even an antisub version of project 22160 patrol ship).
PapaDragon wrote:Big_Gazza wrote:...The Neustrashimy is AFAIK still tied up at the Baltiysk shipyard, Google earth image from Mar 2020
I can't tell if they are working on it or they just left it there to rot
Do they plan on getting it back into service?
Big_Gazza wrote:...They certainly seem to be working on her, but just as with the Pr.1155 Shaposnikov and Chabanenko, progress seems to be glacial, a bit like watching a kettle boil...
I think this pic shows progress around May 2019. Main radar replaced, hull painted, various equip refits/repairs underway. Best I can tell they are saying she will rejoin the Baltic fleet in 2020.
"It is expected that Undaunted will be handed over to the fleet in mid-2020," the source said. Before returning to combat duty, the ship will undergo all types of sea trials.Hopefully they slap it together this year, having another warship on the roster can only be a good thing
PapaDragon wrote:Considering how much juice they have been getting out of Yaroslav Mudrii this one definitely has potential to it
Big_Gazza wrote:PapaDragon wrote:Considering how much juice they have been getting out of Yaroslav Mudrii this one definitely has potential to it
Yeah, I was hoping they would fit Urans to Neustrashimy like the Mudry but no sign so far. I wonder why, given Urans would be ideal for Baltic sea ops.
PapaDragon wrote:Big_Gazza wrote:PapaDragon wrote:Considering how much juice they have been getting out of Yaroslav Mudrii this one definitely has potential to it
Yeah, I was hoping they would fit Urans to Neustrashimy like the Mudry but no sign so far. I wonder why, given Urans would be ideal for Baltic sea ops.
Strapping on Urans should not be hard at all and there's still time to do it
It doesn't require any modifications to the structure and they already did it once before so there are no possible surprises
It will probably be last thing on the list
Arrow wrote:It seems that today there will be no keel for two 885M submarine, two frigates 22350 and two helicopters carriers.
No helicopter.
It seems that today there will be no keel for two 885M submarine, two frigates 22350 and two helicopters carriers.
Yeah, krivak IV (taiwar class and grigorovich class) solved the problem, but now the russian navy can build also the more capable Gorshkov class.GarryB wrote:No helicopter.
Probably the biggest flaw in the first two Krivak versions was the lack of helicopter facilities... especially considering its primary armament is the anti sub SS-N-14 Metel.
The third class of Krivak ships removed the front mounted Metel launcher and replaced it with a 100mm gun, while the rear guns were replaced with a helicopter pad and facilities... ironically they were for border patrol in the KGB, so likely no sub hunting role there...
They got close, and were passing Intel to Argentina.
Isos wrote:News from the past
The First Casualty - Falklands War History
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May 10th: #OTD in the #Falklands war, a 100 mile Exclusion Zone is declared around Ascension, as Soviet aircraft and submarines have been in the area. This is an actual photo of Ascension taken from a Soviet sub at the time. They got close, and were passing Intel to Argentina.
First they need at least that many modern Frigates & Corvettes completed, at least 3 of each per fleet & should be 6 of each.16 of these would be perfection
hoom wrote:First they need at least that many modern Frigates & Corvettes completed, at least 3 of each per fleet & should be 6 of each.16 of these would be perfection
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