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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:20 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

    Mystery solved

    As commented in the oil and gas thread, probably not.

    But then going round the Cape was never really a mystery.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:34 am

    Hypersonic rocket "Zircon" will ensure the dominance of Russia at sea https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2897612.html

    Not much beyond the 1-2K km from RF shore- the VMF doesn't have that many surface ships & subs to patrol all the SLOCS that CSGs,etc. use.
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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:37 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Hypersonic rocket "Zircon" will ensure the dominance of Russia at sea https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2897612.html

    Not much beyond the 1-2K km from RF shore- the VMF doesn't have that many surface ships & subs to patrol all the SLOCS that CSGs,etc. use.

    China has a shitload of warships. China's Type 055 destroyers will ensure Japan don't dare to invade Russia's Kuril islands and Sakhalin island.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_055_destroyer
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:56 am

    The VKS, NAF, Posidon UUVs & Coastal Troops with BastionA ShMs can stop the JMSDF in its tracks.
    The PRC won't start/intervene in a war with Japan on RF behalf; besides their ships & subs r not & will not be armed with Zircons.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:04 am

    Not much beyond the 1-2K km from RF shore- the VMF doesn't have that many surface ships & subs to patrol all the SLOCS that CSGs,etc. use.

    The point is that the 1K danger zone is around all Russian territory because these weapons can be carried by trucks now the INF treaty is dead, as well as ships and aircraft... so it is also 1K kms around any Russian ship or sub or aircraft too... it doesn't need a lot of ships to patrol... Zircon is an attack weapon as well as the sting of a wasp rather than a bee.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:33 pm

    True, but for the real "dominance of Russia at sea [i.e. in the World Ocean]" the VMF would need to be bigger than the USN & the PLAN combined. It's easy for patriotic journalists to exaggerate & hyperbolize- at present, the VMF & the PLAN have AD/AD, i.e. local superiority in their respective AORs.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:33 am

    What they ignore is that sea dominance is only necessary if you intend to do something with it like use it for international trade like the west does.

    For simple sea denial Zircon or Kinzhal is an ideal way of preventing any enemy vessels safely operating in any large body of water at any given time... a MiG-31 could fly 760km out to a launch point in 20-30minutes and release a mach 10 missile with a range of 2,000km... what is not to like... a Tu-22M3 could carry four missiles each but flying them at transonic speeds to probably 2,000km from its operating airfield to launch the missile to targets 1,000km to 1,500km range in rather greater numbers... and they can do that any time day or night... and if they are attacking a US carrier group the F-35 has a flight radius of about 1,000km so operating them as a screen in front of the carriers wont work with MiG-31 launched missiles and in fact normal MiG-31s operating with those aircraft could use R-37M missiles to take down the AWACS and tanker aircraft supporting those F-35s too so they will likely end up in the drink as well...
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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:05 pm

    The South Atlantic obviously not included.

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    Post  Viktor on Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:17 pm

    Nice thumbsup

    Despite the epidemic, the construction of the Russian fleet continues

    On April 28, two universal landing ships (UDC) were to be launched at the Zaliv plant in Crimea, two frigates of project 22350 at the Severnaya Verf shipyard in St. Petersburg and two multipurpose submarines of project 855 wrote:
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    Post  Hole on Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:05 pm

    Not launched, laid down.
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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:18 pm

    Viktor wrote:Nice   thumbsup

    Despite the epidemic, the construction of the Russian fleet continues


    Meh. It's hardly an epidemic. In 1918 flu killed tens of millions and WW1 went on just fine.
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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:19 pm

    Hole wrote:Not launched, laid down.

    Considering how slow Russians are these days, it'll be at least 10 years before the first ship is launched.
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    Post  JohninMK on Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:40 am

    ultimatewarrior wrote:
    Viktor wrote:Nice   thumbsup

    Despite the epidemic, the construction of the Russian fleet continues


    Meh. It's hardly an epidemic. In 1918 flu killed tens of millions and WW1 went on just fine.

    The Yanks may have brought the flu over in 17/18 but they didn't have much effect on the war and the flu didn't hit until 1919.
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    Post  franco on Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:18 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    ultimatewarrior wrote:
    Viktor wrote:Nice   thumbsup

    Despite the epidemic, the construction of the Russian fleet continues


    Meh. It's hardly an epidemic. In 1918 flu killed tens of millions and WW1 went on just fine.

    The Yanks may have brought the flu over in 17/18 but they didn't have much effect on the war and the flu didn't hit until 1919.

    Apparently that one too came from China via 80-100,000 Chinese workers brought over to do the heavy lifting in France in the rear.
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    Post  ultimatewarrior on Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:58 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    ultimatewarrior wrote:
    Viktor wrote:Nice   thumbsup

    Despite the epidemic, the construction of the Russian fleet continues


    Meh. It's hardly an epidemic. In 1918 flu killed tens of millions and WW1 went on just fine.

    The Yanks may have brought the flu over in 17/18 but they didn't have much effect on the war and the flu didn't hit until 1919.

    True, but the flu didn't really have much effect on economy considering the 1920s economy was so good it was called the Roaring 20s.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:39 pm

    franco wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    ultimatewarrior wrote:
    Viktor wrote:Nice   thumbsup

    Despite the epidemic, the construction of the Russian fleet continues


    Meh. It's hardly an epidemic. In 1918 flu killed tens of millions and WW1 went on just fine.

    The Yanks may have brought the flu over in 17/18 but they didn't have much effect on the war and the flu didn't hit until 1919.

    Apparently that one too came from China via 80-100,000 Chinese workers brought over to do the heavy lifting in France in the rear.

    The 'Spanish' Flu's origins is from Ft. Riley, Kansas (US).
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    Post  franco on Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:59 pm

    What? dunno
    Are you arguing with my brother and his BBC documentary? No
    Got some hard data for me Twisted Evil
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    Post  Viktor on Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:14 pm

    Ships beating hart. Having strong and independent engine production is vital. Russia has said it needs something like 2000 ships of all classes in the next 10-15 years.

    An enterprise for the production of marine engines and control systems is open in the Leningrad Region
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:33 pm

    franco wrote:What? dunno
    Are you arguing with my brother and his BBC documentary? No
    Got some hard data for me Twisted Evil

    What? The BBC also claims Jihadists in Syria who chop off heads and Nazi's from Western Ukraine who mortar shell civilians in the Donbass are freedom fighters against Russia....you also believe their bullshit too? BTW here's some of the first documented cases of the Spanish Flu:

    Just before breakfast on the morning of March 4, Private Albert Gitchell of the U.S. Army reports to the hospital at Fort Riley, Kansas, complaining of the cold-like symptoms of sore throat, fever and headache. By noon, over 100 of his fellow soldiers had reported similar symptoms, marking what are believed to be the first cases in the historic influenza pandemic of 1918, later known as Spanish flu.

    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/first-cases-reported-in-deadly-influenza-epidemic
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    Post  franco on Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:32 pm

    Sarcasm buddy. Laughing

    My brother is basing his argument on some BBC documentary and I am looking for something to counter. thumbsup
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    Post  George1 on Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:09 am

    Russia reveals 70+ warships are deployed on combat missions across the world

    BEIRUT, LEBANON (12:00 A.M.) – The Russian Defense Ministry revealed that more than 70 Russian warships are currently performing combat missions in various seas and oceans.

    “On the occasion of the glorious Easter holiday, the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Nikolai Yevmenov, congratulated the crews of more than 70 Russian warships performing their combat missions in various regions of the world.”

    The Ministry indicated that a dinner party was organized on Sunday for the military personnel who are serving on board these warships, submarines and support ships.

    Most recently, the Russian Navy conducted large-scale drills in the Baltic, Mediterranean, and Black seas, as they continue to showcase their naval strength across the world.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russia-reveals-70-warships-are-deployed-on-combat-missions-across-the-world/
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    Post  George1 on Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:16 pm

    "Orekhovo-Zuyevo" ‘Buyan-M’ small missile ship transiting Black Sea straits to join Mediterranean Squadron

    https://tass.com/defense/1147561

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    Post  George1 on Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:32 pm

    "IVAN KHURS" INTELLIGENCE SHIP RETURNED FROM BATTLE SERVICE

    On the morning of April 30, 2020, the average reconnaissance ship Ivan Hurs of project 18280 from a separate intelligence division of the Black Sea Fleet returned to Sevastopol. For the ship, this was the first combat service after admission to the Navy, which began on November 28, 2019. During these five months, the ship actively solved the tasks of its mission in the waters of the Mediterranean Sea, the Atlantic and Indian Oceans, providing tracking of the groupings of ships of the NATO bloc. Returning to the Black Sea on 04/21/2020, the ship continued to solve its mission, then arriving at the Sevastopol raid at the anchor point, the crew underwent a medical examination in connection with the quarantine regime.

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    Post  Isos on Tue May 05, 2020 11:49 pm

    Gorshkov is tiny compare to the Kirov. You almost can't see it. Shocked

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    Post  flamming_python on Wed May 06, 2020 4:07 pm

    Good old Severomorsk. Beautiful city, in winter as in summer.

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