Russian Navy: Status and News #5

Not a big loss but still better to scrap than leave it as a potential environmental problem


DEC 15, 09:11Updated 09:25
The sunken and surfaced submarine in Sevastopol is disposed of
The floating dock PD-16 and the hull of the submarine that was in it were decommissioned for more than 10 years, the press service of the Southern Military District said

A decommissioned B-380 Black Sea Fleet sunken with a floating dock, which then surfaced, is preparing to be towed to the disposal site, the Southern Military District Press Service information department told reporters.

"Currently, technical work is underway to prepare for towing to the disposal site. The floating dock PD-16 and the hull of the submarine, which was in it, were decommissioned from the fleet more than 10 years ago and must be disposed of," it was reported.

According to a TASS correspondent, the floating dock PD-16 remains above the water only a quarter of the surface part, while the submarine inside the dock turned over on its side. Only the upper part of the floating dock remained above the water - about 2 meters. This is not more than a quarter of the height of that part of the structure, which in a normal position is above the water.

Submarine B-380 remains in the dock. She is lying on her side. Around work auxiliary vessels. The embankment of the South Bay near the dock is patrolled by the military police. In particular, its employees prohibit taking pictures of the bay.

The PD-16 floating dock - a pontoon metal structure for repair of submarines, destroyers, minesweepers, support vessels with a displacement of up to 5 thousand tons - was laid down in 1938 and, according to a TASS source in emergency services of Sevastopol, went under water in its South bay on the night of December 15th. The dock for many years under repair was a large diesel-electric submarine of Project 641B Som B-380 (formerly the Gorky Komsomolets), which, since the spring of 2016, has been included in the tender of the Ministry of Defense for disposal

https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/7350509

kvs wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:Not a big loss but still better to scrap than leave it as a potential environmental problem


DEC 15, 09:11Updated 09:25
The sunken and surfaced submarine in Sevastopol is disposed of
The floating dock PD-16 and the hull of the submarine that was in it were decommissioned for more than 10 years, the press service of the Southern Military District said

A decommissioned B-380 Black Sea Fleet sunken with a floating dock, which then surfaced, is preparing to be towed to the disposal site, the Southern Military District Press Service information department told reporters.

"Currently, technical work is underway to prepare for towing to the disposal site. The floating dock PD-16 and the hull of the submarine, which was in it, were decommissioned from the fleet more than 10 years ago and must be disposed of," it was reported.

According to a TASS correspondent, the floating dock PD-16 remains above the water only a quarter of the surface part, while the submarine inside the dock turned over on its side. Only the upper part of the floating dock remained above the water - about 2 meters. This is not more than a quarter of the height of that part of the structure, which in a normal position is above the water.

Submarine B-380 remains in the dock. She is lying on her side. Around work auxiliary vessels. The embankment of the South Bay near the dock is patrolled by the military police. In particular, its employees prohibit taking pictures of the bay.

The PD-16 floating dock - a pontoon metal structure for repair of submarines, destroyers, minesweepers, support vessels with a displacement of up to 5 thousand tons - was laid down in 1938 and, according to a TASS source in emergency services of Sevastopol, went under water in its South bay on the night of December 15th. The dock for many years under repair was a large diesel-electric submarine of Project 641B Som B-380 (formerly the Gorky Komsomolets), which, since the spring of 2016, has been included in the tender of the Ministry of Defense for disposal

https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/7350509

1938!  That is a freaking long time for any steel structure in salt water without proper maintenance.   Russia is experiencing
a large burden from from long-past-use date structures that were not replaced due to the endless economic turmoil.   With the
current plateau of stability, they can hopefully catch up with all the needed rebuilding.

I believe it was decommissioned although a sub was in it so it tells me they were using it to scrap the sub I don't understand why it takes so long to scrap the sub apparently the started it in 2010 now it's just going to rot on shores causing environmental issue instead of being recycled and money for scrap lost. If they had no intention of scrapping should have just dragged it out to sea and test fired a missile on it.

If they had no intention of scrapping should have just dragged it out to sea and test fired a missile on it.

Or test some new torpedo against it when submerged.

Marchal Ustinov, a Slava class cruiser goes into the Black Sea. That's weired. What is it going to do in the black sea ?
They should remove even the Moskva out of there. Their place is in the the north and pacific to face the US carriers not in the black sea.


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Russia brings real fire power to BlackSea: #ВМФ Project 1164, Severomorsk based #Cф Northern Fleet’s Slava (NATO:Atlant) Marshal Ustinov trandits Bosphorus towards BlackSea. 055’s refit & modernisation at Zvezdochka in 2011-16 included new air/surface search radars.
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That's weired... something is going on with this ship.


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It seems that the RFS 055 ‘Marshal Ustinov’, a Slava Class CG cruiser does not enter #Sevastopol because it’s shadowing of the USS Ross DDG-71 Arleigh Burke Class destroyer in the western part of the Black Sea.

More firepower in the black sea, an Udaloy is there too.


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Russia brings real fire power to Black Sea: Backbone of the Fleet: #ВМФ Project 1155 Northern Fleet Сф Udaloy class destroyer, armed with SA-N-9 Gauntlet/Kinzhal & SS-N-14 Silex/Rastrub & 533mm torpedoes, Vice-Admiral Kulakov 626 transited Bosphorus en route to Sevastopol 14:30Z

Maybe will go off Syrian coast to watch for possible Israeli attacks in the US-Iran mini-war.


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#ВМФ Project 1164, Severomorsk based #Cф Northern Fleet’s Slava (NATO:Atlant) class guided missile destroyer Marshal Ustinov, armed with Vulkan (NATO:SS-N-12B Sandbox) missiles, transited Bosphorus towards Marmara. 055’s refit at Zvezdochka was completed between 2011-16

Isos wrote:Maybe will go off Syrian coast to watch for possible Israeli attacks in the US-Iran mini-war.


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#ВМФ Project 1164, Severomorsk based #Cф Northern Fleet’s Slava (NATO:Atlant) class guided missile destroyer Marshal Ustinov, armed with Vulkan (NATO:SS-N-12B Sandbox) missiles, transited Bosphorus towards Marmara. 055’s refit at Zvezdochka was completed between 2011-16

Or check out the US Amphibious Ready Group LH5 USS Bataan that is heading east in the Med.

It certainly made sense to move one of the Slavas out of the Black sea.

It would make more sense to move both IMO.

Their targets are carrier group and there will never be one in the black sea.

Big_Gazza wrote:I suspect that the RuN doesn't know what it wants yet regrading the Kerch.  She's an unmodernised Soviet-era cruiser so her weapons and sensors will be obsolete, plus she's a one-of-a-kind.  Not really worth upgrading, and probably not repairting given her limited combat capabilities.

They have better things to spend money on so will leave her tied up at wharf and thereby defer both a final decision and funds for breaking.

Maybe they will turn her into a museum ship?

That is the plan apparently. Read that at least one engine is fairly new and will be salvaged.

Back to two Slavas in the Black Sea.


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#ВМФ Project 1164, #Cф Northern Fleet’s Slava (NATO:Atlant) class guided missile cruiser Marshal Ustinov gives up on port call due to weather and transits Bosphorus back to Black Sea. With its powerful Bazalt missile system, the ship is among the most powerful in the Russian Navy

Putin aboard Ustinov. Are those containers carrying weapons ? It makes think about naval mines and they are near the rails for mines.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Capt_Navy/status/1215326389529972736

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https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/32145/new-pentagon-map-shows-huge-scale-of-worrisome-russian-and-chinese-naval-operations