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    Extremism and Terrorism in Russia

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    Post  PhSt Wed Sep 18, 2024 11:28 am

    GarryB wrote:No debate, just ban?

    Especially in a different country from which you reside I presume.

    How American of you.

    Unfortunately, debates don't work on Muslims, any civilized approach to Islam does not produce any meaningful results and Muslims will just take advantage of the leniency that is extended to them, and see it as a weakness on part of the "Kuffars".

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    Post  PhSt Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:55 am

    I'd say one of the downsides of the SMO is that Muslims in Russia are starting to feel they can Get Away with their Demands for Islamization in their areas just because there are Muslims fighting in Ukraine Rolling Eyes

    This practice of Polygamy is CLEARLY Prohibited under RUSSIAN LAW but these Morons still decided to push through with this so-called Fatwa anyways, perhaps they are expecting that there will be no repercussions for such a move? The Muslims are even attempting to justify such despicable behavior. Pathetic.

    This decision itself is an act of EXTREMISM. Russia needs to STAMP OUT these Terrorists and send them to the Front lines, this will be like killing two birds with one stone. attack



    Russia’s Muslim leaders greenlight polygamy

    The decision has sparked criticism from lawmakers and the Russian Orthodox Church

    Russia’s top Islamic authority will allow Muslim men to enter into multiple religious marriages and have up to four wives. The Council of Ulema of the Spiritual Administration of Muslims (SAM) said Friday that the new fatwa was issued following the body’s meeting earlier this week.

    The decision aligns with Islamic traditions but contradicts Russian civil law, which prohibits polygamy.

    The regulation stipulates that a man can engage in polygamy only if he ensures equitable treatment for all wives, including equal financial support, separate housing for each spouse, and spends equal time with them according to an agreed schedule, Mufti of Moscow Ildar Alyautdinov explained in a post on Telegram on Friday.

    This decision has sparked criticism from various quarters. Nina Ostanina, Chair of the State Duma Committee on Family, Women, and Children, emphasized that Russia is a secular state where all citizens, regardless of religious affiliation, must adhere to civil laws. In a comment for Gazeta.ru news outlet, she insisted that the fatwa contradicts Russia’s Constitution and family legislation, which define marriage as a union between one man and one woman.

    Kirill Kabanov, a member of the Council for the Development of Civil Society and Human Rights, has slammed the decision and warned that such religious rulings might undermine the secular legal framework of the country. “As I understand it, the next step, logically, is the rejection/non-recognition of the Russian judicial system and the introduction of Sharia courts,” he wrote on his Telegram channel.

    The Russian Orthodox Church rejects polygamy, with Vakhtang Kipshidze, Deputy Chairman of the Synodal Department, stating that Christian civilization is based on monogamy, which ensures equal dignity for both men and women in marriage.

    While polygamy is practiced in some regions of Russia, particularly in the predominantly Muslim republics of the North Caucasus, it remains illegal under Russian civil law. According to the Family Code, a person who is in another registered marriage cannot enter into marriage. However, there is no punishment for polygamy in Russia.

    Responding to the criticism, Ildar Alyautdinov defended the recent fatwa, stating it aims to protect women’s rights in religious marriages without violating Russian civil law. In a video message posted Friday, he clarified that the fatwa focuses on religious practices and seeks to ensure women and children are safeguarded within religious marriage, addressing situations where they might otherwise lack protection.


    https://www.rt.com/russia/609711-polygamy-muslims-allowed-marriage/

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    Post  PhSt Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:07 am

    Another Disgusting development, Kadyrov needs to realize that his participation in the SMO is a Duty and NOT a favor that he is doing for Russia  Rolling Eyes

    After the SMO Russia will need to consolidate its Grip on Power on ALL REGIONS of Russia and make it clear that such Backward Islamic practices will NOT be TOLERATED.  attack



    Chechnya introduces separate male-female pharmacy services


    Another 15 such drugstores will soon appear in the Russian Muslim-majority republic, its leader has announced

    A first pharmacy offering separate services for men and women has opened in the capital of Chechnya, the head of the Russian Muslim-majority republic announced on Saturday.

    Ramzan Kadyrov visited the newly opened Darba Pharmacy in Grozny, accompanied by the Chechen health minister.

    “I was pleased with what I saw. The pharmaceutical establishment meets all legal requirements, is equipped with the necessary medical supplies and drugs at an excellent level, and is capable of providing the population with high-quality medicinal products,” he stated.

    Kadyrov also revealed plans to open another 15 pharmacies under the Darba network in Grozny in the near future.

    Speaking on Saturday, the Chechen leader also called for the closure of beauty salons in the republic that promote “inappropriate behavior” and show body parts in their ads. He also highlighted concerns over health issues stemming from procedures performed at these establishments.

    “Injections are given in the salons, then problems arise and people end up in hospitals. They post photos [on social media] where they show body parts that should not be shown. Salons that corrupt people must be closed,” he said, as quoted by TASS news agency.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/609389-chechnya-introduces-male-female-pharmacy

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    Post  PhSt Mon Dec 23, 2024 3:25 am

    There are reports that NATO is facilitating the flood of Central Asian immigrants into Russia to destabilize its regions, spread ISLAMIC Terrorism, and maintain a sizeable pool of potential recruits for Bombing operations like the recent assassination of Kirillov.

    My suggestion is that Russia Should Show no Mercy for these vermins, the Full force of the Law is not enough to deal with these forces of Evil. Anyone caught working for NATO needs to be dissected alive, have a Bomb implanted inside them and have them BLOW themselves up in a crowded NATO city. Russia needs to respond to NATO Terrorism with 10x more Horrific Terrorist attacks on NATO soil. This is the Only effective answer to NATO NAZI Terrorism.  attack

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    Post  PhSt Tue Dec 24, 2024 4:37 am

    Glad to know that this TURD has been put in his place. Any attempt to introduce Barbaric and Backward practices in Russia and its future territories needs to be SQUASHED with extreme prejudice.

    But I bet NAziTO propaganda outfits will not report on this development and will pretend that the FATwa is still in effect, as if backward religious rulings have any legal substance in Russian law.

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Tue Dec 24, 2024 11:06 am

    Nina Ostanina, Chair of the State Duma Committee on Family, Women, and Children, emphasized that Russia is a secular state

    They need to get rid of this heretic and traitor. Full agreement that Russia is a Christian state should be a prerequisite for any government position.

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Dec 24, 2024 11:57 am

    "Nina Ostanina, Chair of the State Duma Committee on Family, Women, and Children, emphasized that Russia is a secular state"

    They need to get rid of this heretic and traitor. Full agreement that Russia is a Christian state should be a prerequisite for any government position.

    This is 21st century, not 12th century when Inquisition went rampant and burning people having different beliefs on the stake.

    Look at you yourself in the mirror and see if you are any different from a religious extremist or a Bandera fascist ?

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:06 pm

    This is 21st century, not 12th century when Inquisition went rampant and burning people having different beliefs on the stake.

    Look at you yourself in the mirror and see if you are any different from a religious extremist or a Bandera fascist ?

    Why do you complain so much about people like me when I have not heard a word from you about the vile woke plague that is ravaging the globe?

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:45 pm

    Why do you complain so much about people like me when I have not heard a word from you about the vile woke plague that is ravaging the globe?

    Whataboutism does not apply here, guy. Focus on the main issue I raise.

    If you see a need to raise criticism about wokeism (actually it is Disney window-dressing tokenism masquerading as "progressive") you are free to make it in another thread.
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    Post  The-thing-next-door Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:56 pm

    If you see a need to raise criticism about wokeism (actually it is Disney window-dressing tokenism masquerading as "progressive") you are free to make it in another thread.

    That you cannot see the deeper threat it poses is clear proof of the utter failure of your thinking. I is a far more dangerous and sinister force than mere "window-dressing".

    I would also like to point out that this is exactly the thread to discuss all forms of leftism so long as it relates to Russia.
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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Dec 24, 2024 7:49 pm

    It is a far more dangerous and sinister force than mere "window-dressing".
    You can elaborate about it in details in a different location and people are willing to listen. But it is inadvisable for you to use that to distract readers to the issues I raise here. I know your tricks now.

    Again it is 21st century, not 12th century. Stop indulging yourself in your outdated theocratic dream.

    Looking at yourself in the mirror to see if you are any different from a religious extremist who threatens to bomb people who do not worship his deity ?
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    Post  lyle6 Wed Dec 25, 2024 12:02 am

    >Look at you yourself in the mirror and see if you are any different from a religious extremist or a Bandera fascist ?
    He says this, as if his beloved Reds weren`t forcing Christians to abandon their faith at gunpoint.  Razz

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Dec 25, 2024 5:39 am

    It is amusing that in this thread about extremism in Russia we manage to discover many Russian theocratic extremists hidden inside this forum.

    Taliban or Islamic State may feel envious towards the religious extremism of these forum members.
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    Post  lyle6 Wed Dec 25, 2024 5:54 am

    The brutal Christian theocracy in action:

    My neck felt sore and I was out of breath just imagining the boot of this brutal Christian theocracy.
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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Dec 25, 2024 6:00 am

    The brutal Christian theocracy in action:

    Is it the Vatican education that teach you to use vulgar words, racist slur, to behave like an hoodlum devoid of family education, and also to be a coconut traitor that discriminates against his own nation ?

    Surely you are proud to be the finest product of Vatican.

    And by the way I wonder your beloved Vatican still host pedophile predators ?
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    Post  lyle6 Wed Dec 25, 2024 6:24 am

    Never actually attended a catholic skewl - they`re all private here. Just aced a couple of exams and rode a free ride through state schools and university. There`s no screening for assholes I guess.  Razz

    >And by the way I wonder your beloved Vatican still host pedophile predators ?
    They probably still do. But they`re not so depraved as to raise literal cunny enjoyers as head of state, or chief of internal security.
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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Dec 25, 2024 6:35 am

    Never actually attended a catholic skewl - they`re all private here. Just aced a couple of exams and rode a free ride through state schools and university. There`s no screening for assholes I guess.
    Are you implying that you cheated in exams to get the aced position ?

    It must have been the case.
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    Post  lyle6 Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:21 am

    If by cheating you mean smuggling several hundred hours of lecture, a few dozen textbooks and notes to the exam hall (in my head) then yes of course I cheated - guilty as charged.   Razz
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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:30 am

    If by cheating you mean smuggling several hundred hours of lecture, a few dozen textbooks and notes to the exam hall (in my head) then yes of course I cheated - guilty as charged.

    And yet what remains in your head are full of racist slurs, vulgar words, devoid of manners and family education, devoid of gratitude to your own mother, and discrimination against your own fellows.

    Book writers, lecturers and examiners must be proud to the point of screaming to have such a good student - to the point that they allow you to past in ace without writing even a letter in the exam so that you can get away from their sight as soon as possible.

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    This is trailing to nowhere now.

    It is both amusing, and disappointing, that in the thread of extremism in Russia we managed to discover a number of Russian theocratic extremists hidden in the forum. Taliban or Islamic State may feel envious towards the religious extremism of these forum members.

    People have to seriously ask themselves what is the point of claiming the mantle of anti Nazi or anti terrorism if they behave exactly like them.
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Dec 25, 2024 9:36 am

    You two need to get a room. Or married. Either or.

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    Post  lyle6 Wed Dec 25, 2024 9:56 am

    >Book writers, lecturers and examiners must be proud to the point of screaming to have such a good student - to the point that they allow you to past in ace without writing even a letter in the exam so that you can get away from their sight as soon as possible.
    There`s a reason they call them aptitude tests not attitude tests. And no, my professors did write me my letters of recommendation.  Razz

    >People have to seriously ask themselves what is the point of claiming the mantle of anti Nazi or anti terrorism if they behave exactly like them.
    Its just a pretty title. You want to die for some flowery words - go ahead, be my guest. 

    Speaking for myself if my people have suffered immensely against the same ghouls that have plagued them you bet your ass I will use every arms at my disposal to punish my enemies, decency, honor and morality be damned.

    >You two need to get a room. Or married. Either or.
    You marry. Its your idea. We can even have Trudeau officiate.  Razz
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    Post  The-thing-next-door Wed Dec 25, 2024 11:54 am

    Again it is 21st century, not 12th century. Stop indulging yourself in your outdated theocratic dream.

    Yes it is the 21st century and it is plagued with leftism and social decline, clearly we should look back to the past to find something that works.

    You talk about morality and values, yet your understanding of them is that of a child. In your beloved 21st century not where children betray their parents for more money, where wives betray their husbands and where virtue is somehow more rare than common sense these days.

    Your hatred of religion is something I find amusing for it is only in religious communities that I has observed people behaving as anything other than self centred crooks.

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Dec 25, 2024 2:31 pm

    Your hatred of religion is something I find amusing for it is only in religious communities that I has observed people behaving as anything other than self centred crooks.
    I don't hate religion, I hate capitalists, reactionaries, criminals, pedophiles, warmongers, aristocrats, and 5th columns that masquerade the name of religion.

    Probably you too if you allowed yourself to be one of them.

    Talking about self centered crooks don't you look at yourself in the mirror to see whether your call to establish a theocratic Christian state in Russia, a country with significant Muslims, Buddhists, and Judaism communities who were also acknowledged as compatible with Russian culture (look at your own Constitution), is the very manifestation of self centered crooking behavior ?

    Why Chirstianity and not Buddhism, Islam, or Judaism ? What is the reason for you religion to be superior than other ones ?

    And right in this forum we have self proclaimed religious member who throw racist slur and vulgar words like verbal diarrhea, and another religious member who blatantly call for nuking, genocide, torturing and killing family members of the people he disliked.

    You talk about morality and values, yet your understanding of them is that of a child. In your beloved 21st century not where children betray their parents for more money, where wives betray their husbands and where virtue is somehow more rare than common sense these days.
    Yaroslav Vladimirovich, Sviatopolk Vladimirovich, and many of the prince engaged in a bloody feud for the position of leadership of Kievan Rus despite being siblings. It is literally similar to brothers killing each other for money. And all of them were religious people.

    Yaroslav Vladimirovich refused to pay tribute to his father, Vladimir Sviatoslavich, and the father and son were nearly engaged in a war only to be avoided due to the old age of the father. And seemed like these two people are religious people, too. Is not it similar to "children betray their parents for more money" ?

    Yaroslav Vladimirovich apprehended the danger that could ensue from divisions between his siblings, he had to exhort them to live in peace with each other. And Yaroslav Vladimirovich with all his sons are religious people, too, but it seemed like Yaroslav Vladimirovich could not merely rely on religious zeal to settle the disputes between his sons.

    Piotr Alekseyevich Romanov had a very poor relationship with his own biological son, Aleksey Petrovich Romanov, the son was alleged to plot against the father, and the father had the son killed in the most brutal way. And it seemed like both of them were religious people, especially the son.

    There was no concrete evidence, but when Pavel Petrovich Romanov was killed, his son Aleksandr Pavlovich Romanov was discovered to be in his father's house at the time of killing and were alleged to be associated with the killing, or at least with some plot against his father. And if you say to of them were atheist they will literally gave you a slap in the face.

    Ekaterina Alekseyevna Romanova put her husband Pyotr Fyodorovich Romanov into jail and left he died there. And Ekaterina was notorious for having many male lovers. And seems like none of them were atheist. "Wife betrays husband" I guess ?

    The list is long, guy.
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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:18 pm

    Terrorist act in a case of Ursa Major is confirmed. Three explosions happened in the engine room of the ship.

    "Oboronlogistics": the ship "Ursa Mayor" sank as a result of a terrorist attack

    https://ria.ru/20241225/sudno-1991299217.html

    This was the largest and most capable ship owned by Oboronlogistika. At the moment of sinking it was carrying two cranes for Vladivostok port and parts for icebreakers that are under construction in the Far East.

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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Dec 25, 2024 7:24 pm

    higurashihougi
    Talking about self centered crooks don't you look at yourself in the mirror to see whether your call to establish a theocratic Christian state in Russia, a country with significant Muslims, Buddhists, and Judaism communities who were also acknowledged as compatible with Russian culture (look at your own Constitution), is the very manifestation of self centered crooking behavior ?
    You do realize that only a handful forum members are actually from Russia? Most people here are westerners.
    In any case, people can have different opinions from yours, and you don't have to agree with them. Accept it and move on.

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