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    Post  iraqidabab Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:40 pm

    I think the major problem here is that terrorists hide at night in the cities, not much to target. Very difficult to launch large-scale urban ground assault ops at night. Though I agree that it's a lot safer for use at night.

    Also night makes it hard for ground troops to operate cause the terrorists use a lot of IED's/boobytraps which you wouldn't see at night.
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    Post  max steel Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:36 pm

    iraqidabab wrote:I think the major problem here is that terrorists hide at night in the cities, not much to target. Very difficult to launch large-scale urban ground assault ops at night. Though I agree that it's a lot safer for use at night.

    Also night makes it hard for ground troops to operate cause the terrorists use a lot of IED's/boobytraps which you wouldn't see at night.



    what tactics does Russia use to avoid IED casualties in exercises ? NATO troops and even US suffered many IED related deaths



    US used to fly 6-10 sorties a day in Syria prior to the Russian involvement.


    After that, they had flown 1-2 times a day.


    Since October 23, right after the US and Russia signed the “Deconfliction Memorandum” to avoid clashes in Syria’s skies . they’ve flown ZERO times in Syria.


    The Zero Sorties could mean two things:


    Erdogan doesn’t want any flights to take place from Incirlik before the elections, or…

    The Deconfliction Memorandum simply says: “No flights are allowed over Syria, unless authorized by the Syrian government or the UN Security Council”.


    Wouldn’t y’all want to take a peek at the Memorandum? ;-)
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:06 am

    iraqidabab wrote:I think the major problem here is that terrorists hide at night in the cities, not much to target. Very difficult to launch large-scale urban ground assault ops at night. Though I agree that it's a lot safer for use at night.

    Also night makes it hard for ground troops to operate cause the terrorists use a lot of IED's/boobytraps which you wouldn't see at night.

    Maybe Iraqi gov. should ask the Russians to sell them an export version of 'Igla' Anti-IED system, which can detect and defeat IED's from hundreds of meters away:

    'Igla' just made Russian AFV's much more survivable against IED's:

    IRAQ - Fight on Islamic State: News #1 - Page 32 Igla

    Some facts about 'Igla'...

    1.) Defeats IED's/Radio commanded mines at 100 m, a 5 fold increase from similar older devices...and it doesn't just defeat the explosive device, it suppresses and jams the relevant frequencies it operates at.

    2.) Takes minimal training and skill to operate.

    3.) Built in net-centricity allows it operate in tandem with other similar ECM devices, such as small jammer "Little Forest", that can extend the range of 'Igla' 3-fold (300 m). That's right Russian AFV's will be able to defeat radio controlled IED's from 300 m. away, while simultaneously jamming the various frequencies they may operate, when 'Igla' and 'Little Forrest' are working in conjunction! thumbsup

    "Needle" 5 times increases the range of protection equipment from explosive devices

    ...More information about 'Little Forrest':

    http://pro-tank.ru/blog/1200-protection-armored-vehicles-airborne

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t3199p870-russian-ground-forces-news-2#125771
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:02 am

    max steel wrote:
    US used to fly 6-10 sorties a day in Syria prior to the Russian involvement.


    After that, they had flown 1-2 times a day.


    Since October 23, right after the US and Russia signed the “Deconfliction Memorandum” to avoid clashes in Syria’s skies . they’ve flown ZERO times in Syria.


    The Zero Sorties could mean two things:


    Erdogan doesn’t want any flights to take place from Incirlik before the elections, or…

    The Deconfliction Memorandum simply says: “No flights are allowed over Syria, unless authorized by the Syrian government or the UN Security Council”.


    Wouldn’t y’all want to take a peek at the Memorandum?  ;-)

    As discussed previously, there is a no fly zone already enforced by the Russians.

    There already is an image of a Su-34 with two kill markings. If that is not a photoshop, that means two confirmed kills by that Su-34.

    There are other proofs to the effect that Russia at least has shot down Turkish aircraft.

    Neither Turkey nor "Erdogan" has any decision-making power over Incirlik.

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    Post  Alex555 Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:09 am


    There already is an image of a Su-34 with two kill markings. If that is not a photoshop, that means two confirmed kills by that Su-34.

    Russian reporter on TV said that each star = 10 flights. Have not links, saw it on TV.


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    Post  JohninMK Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:20 am

    Alex555 wrote:

    There already is an image of a Su-34 with two kill markings. If that is not a photoshop, that means two confirmed kills by that Su-34.

    Russian reporter on TV said that each star = 10 flights. Have not inks, saw it on TV.
    Could be drones.

    But we seem to have drifted OT. This is the Iraq thread and the RuAF isn't there (yet).
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    Post  Vann7 Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:56 pm

    wow.. this is huge..

    According to Veterans Today , Iraq parliament politicians are saying of several
    confirmed reports that Americans/British planes dropped weapons to ISIS and they shot it down. Shocked



    In a relevant development in March, a group of Iraqi popular forces known as Al-Hashad Al-Shabi shot down the US Army helicopter that was carrying weapons for the ISIL in the Western parts of Al-Baqdadi region in Al-Anbar province.

    Also in February, a senior lawmaker disclosed that Iraq’s army had shot down two British planes as they were carrying weapons for the ISIL terrorists in Al-Anbar province.

    “The Iraqi Parliament’s National Security and Defense Committee has access to the photos of both planes that are British and have crashed while they were carrying weapons for the ISIL,” al-Zameli said.



    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/01/us-attack-may-have-been-ordered-by-isis-leaders/


    This is becoming more and more a Direct war than anything. What is shocking is how still
    US/Coalition airforce allowed to fly over IRAQ perhaps they have no other choice? and the
    weapons drop incident was blamed on "rogue pilots" friendly to ISIS..but "that is not" an American military policy.

    Also another report of how US airforce bombed a meeting of some ISIS leaders who were conspiring to split from the US controlled main ISIS head.
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    Post  iraqidabab Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:51 pm

    ^^ Al-Zameli always talks bullshit.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:42 pm

    iraqidabab wrote:^^ Al-Zameli always talks bullshit.
    Looks like it.

    This has been floating around since March. No confirmation from anyone else and definitely no photos, satellite or phone, have appeared. As such photos would be worth a lot of money I think it is probably safe to conclude that it is a myth.
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    Post  Vann7 Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:41 pm

    is old video from 2014 but still interesting comes from IRAQ defense ministry .
    a member of ISIS captured by IRAQ.. a young saudi student of 18 years old , student
    of University of Saudi arabia in "religion". He told there are fighters from all over the world
    all Europe ,Tajikistan and even AMerica.. and he got his training in RAQQA.  The last
    reports of Assad is that islamic fighters from 80 nations fight in Syria..



    He was captured because almost his entire convoy was wiped by IRAQ airforce when trying to
    cross from Syria to IRAQ.. and he a few others survived but about 150 ISIS fighters wiped by IRAQ airforce. Is in spanish the report from CNN..even though the report is ok.. CNN made it look as if American Government have nothing to do with ISIS.

    He is cooperative with information and told the route saudis use to reach the war zone.. is from Saudi Arabia to Kuwait and from there to Turkey and from there to IRAQ or Syria. finally he says he only wants now to return to his home. He will be lucky if not dropped from a plane with a bomb attached to his body. he and a tajikistani were show in IRAQUI media.

    Russia FSB last estimates is that ISIS fighters alone in Syria and IRAQ are in the 75,000
    fighters. and they all take training from western powers and gulf states support.
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    Iraq Air Force airstrikes in Salahuddin province, video feed most likely from AC208B Combat Caravan.

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    Post  sheytanelkebir Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:01 pm

    those ISIS propaganda pics show "training of the Al-Farouq 3rd armoured brigade" as per their text.

    quite clearly these are made up of the sunni-arab turncoats from the "ninawa operations command" who turned ISIS in June 2014. They're operating their own equipment too.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:09 pm

    sheytanelkebir wrote:those ISIS propaganda pics show "training of the Al-Farouq 3rd armoured brigade" as per their text.

    quite clearly these are made up of the sunni-arab turncoats from the "ninawa operations command" who turned ISIS in June 2014. They're operating their own equipment too.
    If I was in command of Iraqi ops, I would completely dump Sunni militias. They are totally unreliable.

    In Baiji only 1,000 Sunni militants fought out of the force of 30,000 - basicallly a decoration.
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    Post  iraqidabab Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:23 pm

    No option but the pull them into the fight and hope they take lead, you can't have others do the job for them. After all the massacres IS has done against Sunnis I think they started to learn, more are following. But, this threat will exist in all states with Sunnis. Read up on Algeria in the 90's. We can't do away with it unless the whole religion gets cleaned or they change religion.
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    Post  NationalRus Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:54 pm

    iraqidabab wrote:No option but the pull them into the fight and hope they take lead, you can't have others do the job for them. After all the massacres IS has done against Sunnis I think they started to learn, more are following. But, this threat will exist in all states with Sunnis. Read up on Algeria in the 90's. We can't do away with it unless the whole religion gets cleaned or they change religion.

    was seing that all along, no peace with sunnis cant be made if they dont seculerise completly, then even in secular sunni egypt about 50% of the population is in favor of MB who play with wahhabism and jihadi thoughts

    most iraqis on MP.net also agreed with me, Anbar is lost for ever, if even recaptured with lots of blood in years of fighting then they will continue with a guerrilla terrorist war only to rebel and procraim jihad on some other day... i think shia's shouldn't bleed for such a cause and drop them like a bag of shit, its not worth it.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:22 pm

    Anbar has 1% of Iraqi population but was responsible for 25% of US casualties during the occupation - clearly a hard time ahead of ISF.

    Maybe one of Shaytan's scenerios will come true - and north Iraq will be pacified by force with Sunnis fleeing to Turkey and the whole area being repopulated by Kurds and Shias from the South.
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    Post  whir Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:47 pm

    Ethnic cleansing is the cause not the solution.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:51 pm

    A cause of what? Are/were Iraqi Shias expelling Sunnis from Iraq? They weren't. Iraqi Shia government did everythigng it could in order to appase Sunnis and prevent them fron taking  up arms - they were overrepresented in the army, had favorable number of seats in the parliament and even money from oil was spent in Sunnis' favor.

    Shaytanelkabir knows more about that

    Sunnis started the bloody rampage by bombing Shias during Ashura in 2004 and heavily damaging the Kadhmiya Shrine, a Shia holy site.
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    Post  NationalRus Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:31 pm

    i have actaully 3 iraqis at work (big hotel, all dishwashers) im fine with all of them, 2 are kurds they dont give a fuck about religion and they also said when we talked about iraq that anbar is fucked and a wall should be build between anbar and the rest of iraq.
    the 3rd one is actually assyrian and to put it "nicely" he basically told me that anbar should be nuked
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    Post  iraqidabab Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:06 pm

    This requires a detailed post, but to make it short.

    Anbar is very much affected by Syria, to fix Anbar you need a solution for Syria or you barricade the entire Syrian border with a huge project including a barrier as well as UCAV, FLIR scanning etc.

    Pre 2010, Assad used to funnel terrorists in Iraq through Anbar. FSA started taking power somewhere around 2011 early 2012. Until 2013, they were sharing arms with IS in Eastern Syria. Even though they knew IS was terrorizing in Iraq they couldn't care, this is how M79 OSA ended up in Iraq. 2013 IS took over Raqqa. If the Syrian army does not regain control over Eastern Syria then Iraq has to seal of the border with Syria which is possible. Should've been done earlier, said it in 2013 as well.


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