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    Post  iraqidabab on Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:52 am

    Is it practical to drop large amounts of air-dropped landmine munition dispensers KMGU | over parts of the main parts of the Iraq-Syria border used by ISIS to make it harder for them to cross ?

    We're talking about mostly desert landscape here. Iraq's SU-25's could drop them.
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    Post  flamming_python on Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:28 am

    iraqidabab wrote:Is it practical to drop large amounts of air-dropped landmine munition dispensers KMGU | over parts of the main parts of the Iraq-Syria border used by ISIS to make it harder for them to cross ?

    I would imagine many ordianry people cross that border and at the same locations too.

    What exactly is it you would want to achieve? They will find other places where to cross it; not that it really is that important to 'cross it' as such because at this point they control that whole region and that border exists mainly on paper.
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    Post  iraqidabab on Fri Apr 03, 2015 1:33 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    iraqidabab wrote:Is it practical to drop large amounts of air-dropped landmine munition dispensers KMGU | over parts of the main parts of the Iraq-Syria border used by ISIS to make it harder for them to cross ?

    I would imagine many ordianry people cross that border and at the same locations too.

    What exactly is it you would want to achieve? They will find other places where to cross it; not that it really is that important to 'cross it' as such because at this point they control that whole region and that border exists mainly on paper.

    Because the next Iraqi offensive will mainly be in Anbar province where they will be pushing towards the Syrian border, this might have many of them trying to enter Iraq from Syria. Mines can be a temporary solution to make it harder for them. I'm talking about desert parts here which is only used by ISIS mostly using cars, no ordinary civillian uses the desert border crossing, they go through the official border crossing but that is under IS control at the moment.

    To achieve the objectives in Anbar province requires a blockade and eventually militarized zone on the Syrian border, therefor I believe mine dispensers can be helpful at the moment.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:12 am

    Simply defeating IS miliarily will be ineffective. Iraq needs a through demographic shift in disfavor of Sunnis

    At best, once you conquer a city, politely ask the Sunni inhabitants to leave and then get them to march 1000 km to the nearest Saudi city, in 45C sun. Oh and don't forget to tell them to pray to Allah for survival.
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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:49 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Simply defeating IS miliarily will be ineffective. Iraq needs a through demographic shift in disfavor of Sunnis

    At best, once you conquer a city, politely ask the Sunni inhabitants to leave and then get them to march 1000 km to the nearest Saudi city, in 45C sun. Oh and don't forget to tell them to pray to Allah for survival.

    Or try to mass conversion to Shia islam instead. Wont change everyone but at least a bunch.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:05 am

    Wink I would prefer all of them (Shias too) to convert to Eastern Orthodoxy or Lutheranism (Christians don't follow Sharia) but... if it's possible to convert at least some Sunnis to Shiism, it's worth a try. Wink

    What is sure is that Sunnis have no place in Iraq. Since Saddma's deposal they've been causing nothing but problems.
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    Post  iraqidabab on Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:58 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Simply defeating IS miliarily will be ineffective. Iraq needs a through demographic shift in disfavor of Sunnis

    At best, once you conquer a city, politely ask the Sunni inhabitants to leave and then get them to march 1000 km to the nearest Saudi city, in 45C sun. Oh and don't forget to tell them to pray to Allah for survival.

    It's true that Iraq is unable to defeat the ideology, we can only defeat the armed force and suppress it as Algeria did in the 90's. Though unrealistic as well to force convert people, what Iraqi forces are doing is work with Sunnis that are pro government to find those who work with ISIS. Than those are dealt with, they won't be allowed back in the cities.
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    Post  mack8 on Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:23 pm

    I would prefer all of them (Shias too) to convert to Eastern Orthodoxy or Lutheranism (Christians don't follow Sharia) but... if it's possible to convert at least some Sunnis to Shiism, it's worth a try.

    How about having them (shia, sunni whatever) convert to no religion at all? It would be a good day for them, and the ME. How about having all the members of the various religious sects and cults in the world today convert to no religion at all? It would be a good day for the World.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:49 pm

    If they became atheists, I would be happy too. I simply find a conservative Orthodox or Mainline Protestant society better - better at resisting Islamic madness and better at maintaining social cohesion. ME does not need left-wing European BS.... It needs a completely different religion and the above Christian denomintions fit their needs really well.

    I may be biased as a result of having been raised in predominately Protestant environment - neverthless, my beliefs in this matter are clear and didn't change since a liong time.
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    Post  George1 on Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:32 am

    Islamic State Loses Control of Three Large Iraq Oil Fields - Reports

    The Islamic State militant group has lost control of three large oil fields in Iraq that helped the group finance their operations, German daily Suddeutsche Zeitung reported Thursday citing the German Federal Intelligence Service.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — According to the newspaper, the ISIL currently controls only the Qayara oil field outside Mosul.

    The oil field has the output capacity of 2,000 barrels per day, which amounts to around 5 percent of the total oil production, previously available to the ISIL, according to Suddeutsche Zeitung.

    The daily also said that satellite images, obtained by the German Intelligence Service, showed that the militants had set fire to two oil fields near Tikrit.

    Last week, the Iraqi security forces liberated Tikrit that had been under the ISIL control since June 2014.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150409/1020647938.html#ixzz3Wn6bZcXh
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    Post  George1 on Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:45 pm

    Iraqi Forces Unearth ISIL Sleeper Cells, Kill 130 Militants in Tikrit

    Local residents displaced by hostilities would not be allowed to return to their homes until the security situation improved.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Iraqi security forces located several Islamic State jihadist group (IS, or ISIS) sleeper cells in the northern city of Tikrit and killed 130 militants, Ahmed Jubouri, Iraqi Minister of State for Provincial Affairs said, local media reported Friday.

    Tikrit had been under ISIL control since June 2014. On March 31, Iraqi Prime Minister Haider Abadi declared victory over ISIL militants in the city.

    During the Thursday announcement, Ahmed Jubouri said that local residents displaced by hostilities would not be allowed to return to their homes until the security situation improved.

    “After liberating Tikrit city center, we had to address the issue of the improvised explosive devices and the houses and governmental institutions booby-trapped by the ISIS group militants when they controlled the city,” Jubouri said as quoted by Iraqi News.

    On Monday, local media reported that one of the leaders of the Islamic State, known as Abu Maria, was killed in a military operation to liberate Tikrit.

    ISIL has seized large parts of Iraq and Syria. The group's positions are currently targeted by airstrikes conducted by the US-led international coalition, while Iraqi, Kurdish and allied militia forces are fighting on the ground.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150417/1021006109.html#ixzz3XZOXX4uv
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    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA on Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:28 pm


    Saddam deputy, insurgent leader al-Douri killed, Iraqi TV reports


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    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/04/17/he-served-saddam-he-served-isis-now-al-douri-may-be-dead.html
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    Post  ShahryarHedayatiSHBA on Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:38 pm

    Sunni Civilians Flee Albo Faraj Town/City/Area in Al Anbar as it Falls to ISIS






    Iraqi Forces Launch a Counter Offensive & Retake Lost Positions from ISIS







    Tens of Thousands of Al Anbar Residents Seek Refuge in Baghdad from ISIS



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    Post  nemrod on Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:40 pm

    An unwise pilot that apparently flew to low was nearly downed due to anti aircraft artillerie. Must be Azp S-60 57 mm gun shot. This pilot seems to forget that the old S-60 is yet effective around 4.000 m. At this altitude the raid is absolutly not accurate, and this "courageous" US pilot tried to fly below, but he met anti aircrafts guns.

    http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/04/24/a10-makes-emergency-landing-in-iraq-after-engine-failure.html
    U can notice the joke provided by US Air Force's statements.

    A "catastrophic" engine failure aboard an A-10 Thunderbolt ....
    The usual argument, when they lost hardware it either by miraculous engine faillures, or better, pilots faillures. The A-10 could not do better job than SU-25, or Syrian Air Force did untill now. It is not because they are american that they must succeed.


    A "catastrophic" engine failure aboard an A-10 Thunderbolt on a mission over Iraq forced the aircraft to make an emergency landing at the al-Asad airbase where U.S. Marines have been training Iraqi forces in in contested Anbar province, U.S. Central Command confirmed Friday.

    Col. Patrick Ryder, a CentCom spokesman, told a Pentagon briefing that the engine failure was "not uncommon" for combat aircraft.

    "It was just one of those things that happen when you’re operating high-performance aircraft," Ryder said of the engine failure.

    Ryder declined to discuss when the incident occurred and whether the A-10 was over ISIS-controlled territory when it happened, but said the pilot was not injured and the aircraft was repaired and returned to duty.

    The forced landing of the A-10 came amid renewed debate in Congress over the Air Force’s plan to mothball the aging A-10 fleet by 2018.

    Supporters of the attack A-10s, including Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., kept funding alive for the A-10 program last year and have pledged to do the same this year in the National Defense Authorization Act for what they call the nation’s premier ground attack aircraft.

    In an Air Force release, the 332nd Expeditionary Maintenance Squadron gave a detailed account of the extraordinary effort to repair the plane at the al-Asad airbase west of Baghdad that was not equipped for the fix.

    The number one engine on the A-10C Thunderbolt II "suffered catastrophic damage during a routine refueling mission and the pilot was able to safely land the aircraft at the air base," the release said.

    The Air Force dispatched a nine-member team to conduct the repairs. "This was a very important mission," said Col. Michael Stohler, the 332nd Maintenancer.

    "The aircraft was in a location that was not fully secure and we needed it repaired and flown out of there as quickly as possible," Stohler said. The al-Asad airbase has periodically come under attack from the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria but there have been no U.S. casualties.

    Getting across what he needed done to Army troops and Marines on the ground also presented a problem, Stohler said.

    "Communicating fighter aircraft needs to Marine and Army personnel presented many unique challenges," Stohler said.

    "There is absolutely no aircraft maintenance equipment, air ground equipment, or any way to tow fighter aircraft" at al-Asad, Stohler. "We had to bring everything we needed and improvise everything else. We worked on the jet in an unused aircraft shelter the Iraqi air force used once upon a time. It had no lights, no power, no phone, and no internet -- just a roof over our heads."

    Just getting the A-10 into the makeshift hangar was difficult. "We tried to back it in using the truck -- no joy," Stohler said. "We tried to use a large Marine fork lift to push it in -- no joy. In the end, 12 airmen and two Marines pushed the 40,000-pound aircraft 70 yards uphill into the hangar."

    It took five days to repair the plane to the point where it could fly back to its original base at an undisclosed location in the region.

    "The pilot did an outstanding job of flying this difficult-to-handle aircraft to a safe landing," Stohler said. "The maintenance team did an awesome job of returning it to the air."
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    Post  mack8 on Sun May 10, 2015 10:54 pm

    Thanks for the heads up Sheytan.

    How are things looking over there regarding the operations against the ISIS rats, it's been quiet lately (news i mean, at least for non-arabic speaking peoples). What is this year's outlook?
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    Post  sheytanelkebir on Mon May 11, 2015 12:21 pm

    mack8 wrote:Thanks for the heads up Sheytan.

    How are things looking over there regarding the operations against the ISIS rats, it's been quiet lately (news i mean, at least for non-arabic speaking peoples). What is this year's outlook?

    the war is still grinding on.

    ISIS made incursions into baiji refinery, tharthar dam and a couple of other spots. they were repulsed from all these, but they still have the ability to marshal and manouver hundreds of men at high speed through the desert and pick weak points in iraqi fixed defences to besiege. Since Iraq has hundreds of factories, bridges, water dams, power stations to protect... advantage ultimately always lies with ISIS since they can pick and choose where to concentrate forces for rapid attacks and hten just as rapidly disappear.

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150511/1021980507.html

    Iraq lacks the ability to monitor large land masses as well as the ability to actively destroy small, loosely travelling groups of terrorists who rarely travel in convoys bigger than 3 vehicles.

    But then for some inexplicable reason, the government still allows all three telecom providers in Iraq to continue giving telephony and data services to areas in ISIS rule! they even go and repair masts and lines inside ISIS areas (coincidentaly these telco providers are owned by Kuwait, Qatar and Kurds! make of that what you will!)!

    Iraq continues providing electricity to ISIS areas too. the idiocy is breathtaking. but then if Iraq stopped those things the US media would jump on us calling us sectarian / iranians who are oppressing innocent sunnis. and so the charade continues.
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    Post  mack8 on Wed May 13, 2015 10:08 pm

    sheytanelkebir wrote:
    mack8 wrote:Thanks for the heads up Sheytan.

    How are things looking over there regarding the operations against the ISIS rats, it's been quiet lately (news i mean, at least for non-arabic speaking peoples). What is this year's outlook?

    the war is still grinding on.

    ISIS made incursions into baiji refinery, tharthar dam and a couple of other spots. they were repulsed from all these, but they still have the ability to marshal and manouver hundreds of men at high speed through the desert and pick weak points in iraqi fixed defences to besiege. Since Iraq has hundreds of factories, bridges, water dams, power stations to protect... advantage ultimately always lies with ISIS since they can pick and choose where to concentrate forces for rapid attacks and hten just as rapidly disappear.

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150511/1021980507.html

    Iraq lacks the ability to monitor large land masses as well as the ability to actively destroy small, loosely travelling groups of terrorists who rarely travel in convoys bigger than 3 vehicles.

    But then for some inexplicable reason, the government still allows all three telecom providers in Iraq to continue giving telephony and data services to areas in ISIS rule! they even go and repair masts and lines inside ISIS areas (coincidentaly these telco providers are owned by Kuwait, Qatar and Kurds! make of that what you will!)!

    Iraq continues providing electricity to ISIS areas too. the idiocy is breathtaking. but then if Iraq stopped those things the US media would jump on us calling us sectarian / iranians who are oppressing innocent sunnis. and so the charade continues.

    Sure looks like a charade sadly. So far it looks like Iraq is caught in a fairly similar situation to Syria (who can't achieve a breakthrough because they are not strong enough, they don't have enough weapons and manpower in the face of increasing numbers of US, Turkey and GCC sponsored jihadist rats), it can't take out the jihadist rats because they are being continuously funneled weapons, manpower and intelligence by the GCC scumbags (who presumably want an anti-Iran puppet regime obeying fully to Riyadh in the place of the current leadership, and a weak, disorganized and under-developed Iraq- as i read recently Iraq has HUGE oil and other resources wealth, even bigger than KSA if i'm not wrong, so theoretically Iraq can get at least as rich if there was stability- imagine a £60-70 billion defence budget), the iranians are far too weak to help with what matters (and they have their own mischievous plans), and of course the US does not want the conflict to end, it's one of the main leverages they have against Iraq and indeed the ME. For how long this grotesque spectacle will continue in Iraq and ME who knows. Obviously, someone like me hopes this will end with a march on Riyadh and obliterating that nest of snakes called KSA and their stooges, and preferably raze that Mecca shithole to the ground, at least there will be some revenge...

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    Post  sheytanelkebir on Fri May 15, 2015 2:43 pm

    daesh capture centre of ramadi city.

    http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/middle-east/71271-150515-is-seizes-government-hq-in-iraq-s-ramadi-officials



    another lesson of trying to "control" cities and provinces that are 99% hostile to shias/christians/kurds...
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    Post  Cyberspec on Mon May 18, 2015 12:21 am

    Apparently the Iraqi Army has withdrawn from Ramadi altogether....are there any pro-government Sunis at all??
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    Post  sheytanelkebir on Mon May 18, 2015 10:20 am

    Cyberspec wrote:Apparently the Iraqi Army has withdrawn from Ramadi altogether....are there any pro-government Sunis at all??

    there are of course. but far too few to mention. and all get inevitably slaughtered by their ISIS leaning relatives.
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    Post  sheytanelkebir on Mon May 18, 2015 11:07 am

    As we have observed for the past 18 months or so. Sunni Arabs being armed are no defence against ISIS. 95% inevitably turn coat, and the remaining 5% are slaughtered by their fellow Sunni Arabs.

    On the other hand, we can see that Shias in general are formidable foes who don't give up the fight until the last man, as seen in places like Baiji refinery, Amerli, Jurf Al Sakhr, Tikrit, Al Alam, Diyala, Hamrin etc...

    Thus if the US is serious about defeating ISIS, arming Sunni Arabs would be counter-productive as you will simply be handing over weapons, hand over fist, directly to ISIS.

    We also see that the Iraqi Armed Forces are deeply infiltrated by ISIS sympathisers and the only time they function "effectively" is when they are teamed up with the Shia-Christian-Turkmen-Shabak "popular mobilisation" force. Thus the US would most effectively support the fight against ISIS by aiding the Popular Mobilisation Forces and helping to root out the 5th columnists and moles. Or even simply letting the Iraqis do it without accusing them of being "unrepresentative" (hint, it means taking out lots of Sunni Arabs).

    But then, the US demands about the "help" today (if we use an analogy) would be like, if in world war 2 the US wanted to defeat Nazi Germany, but wanted to support only anti-nazi Germans in the fight and refused to arm or support any "slavs" because Germans didn't like slavs and they didn't want to upset all the Germans, only the nazis.
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    Post  George1 on Mon May 18, 2015 1:04 pm

    Islamic State Captures Iraq's Ramadi

    The Islamic State jihadist group has captured the central Iraqi city of Ramadi in its entirety amid disputed claims from US and local officials, according to Monday's media reports.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — A day earlier in neighboring Syria, US special forces killed a senior ISIL official and captured his wife in a clandestine ground operation. Abu Sayyaf was purported to have been in charge of the group's illicit oil trade, which is believed to be the extremist group's main source of revenue.

    "The city has fallen," Muhannad Haimour, Anbar province governor's spokesman, was quoted by the New York Times.

    He added that over 500 civilians and security personnel died in the fight for the provincial capital some 60 miles west of Baghdad.

    ISIL claimed late Sunday that it seized Ramadi from Iraq's security forces, but the US Defense Department that monitors ongoing events was unable to immediately confirm the militant group's reports.

    "The situation remains fluid and contested," the outlet cited Pentagon spokesman, Col. Steven Warren, as saying.

    Other reports quoting local officials stated that Iraqi troops were abandoning their positions en masse despite Prime Minister Haider Abadi's appeals for them to await reinforcement from Shia militias.

    Ramadi has been the hotspot of clashes between the militants who seek to establish an Islamic caliphate in territories under its control and the Iraqi forces.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150518/1022252967.html#ixzz3aUFbexHe
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    Post  sheytanelkebir on Mon May 18, 2015 3:05 pm

    strange about haider abadi's talk... since the army aviation has been flying CSAR missions since yesterday to rescue small pockets of trapped soldiers!
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    Post  Cyberspec on Wed May 20, 2015 9:46 am

    Looks like the IS barbarians have captured a fair bit of equipment

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