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    Post  GarryB Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:36 am

    No more stirring the pot as all those HATO troops and HATO weapons in Ukraine ATM...

    You upgrade ships and you want to test them and take them out and use them.

    The real stirring is coming from the US and UK squealing the Russians are coming the Russians are coming like demented idiots... no evidence or proof, you just have to take their word... which is worthless.
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    Post  Navy fanboy Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:25 am

    Wouldn't they be better sending Peter the Great into Med to stir out that NATO build up? And what is this nuclear test they want her to defend?
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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:24 am

    Navy fanboy wrote:Wouldn't they be better sending Peter the Great into Med to stir out that NATO build up? And what is this nuclear test they want her to defend?

    Some warships must remain in the north, and the most important thing is that we do not know (nor will we know) whether a nuclear submarine sailed into the Mediterranean with Ustin's cruiser.
    In reality, the MiG-31K is even more dangerous with Kinzhal missiles than the P-1000 Vulkan missile.

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    Post  Navy fanboy Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:42 am

    Yeah, i forgot about Kinzhal. But i know the West is nervous of a Kirov. one wrong move and your carriers gone, but then again Kinzhal is safer, range is further than most carriers CAP.

    How many missiles can a Mig 31 equip at once?
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    Post  Arrow Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:45 am

    Navy fanboy wrote:

    How many missiles can a Mig 31 equip at once?

    One
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    Post  Navy fanboy Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:30 am

    Does anyone here think that Pyotr Velikiy will ever find its self off Odessa within this crisis?

    I mean Pyotr Velikiy heading anywhere creates stress and tension due to her firepower. Would be an easy way to end this crisis would be to bring her into the fray.
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    Post  Isos Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:55 am

    Navy fanboy wrote:Does anyone here think that Pyotr Velikiy will ever find its self off Odessa within this crisis?

    I mean Pyotr Velikiy heading anywhere creates stress and tension due to her firepower. Would be an easy way to end this crisis would be to bring her into the fray.

    Turks have closed the strait for all military ships. And the weaponery of the Kirov in Odessa is beyond useless.

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    Post  lancelot Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:13 pm

    There should be enough land based missile systems in Crimea to outmatch anything you could get with that.
    It is basically an unsinkable huge battlecruiser/aircraft carrier.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:58 pm

    On March 14, 22, the heavy nuclear cruiser Pyotr Veliky and the large anti-submarine ship Severomorsk came close to the NATO Navy grouping, which is participating in the Cold Response exercises off the coast of Norway. Source: telegram channel "Sailor"

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    Post  Navy fanboy Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:17 am

    Podlodka77 wrote:On March 14, 22, the heavy nuclear cruiser Pyotr Veliky and the large anti-submarine ship Severomorsk came close to the NATO Navy grouping, which is participating in the Cold Response exercises off the coast of Norway. Source: telegram channel "Sailor"

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    Does anyone know what there next orders are? Are they returning back to base or relocating elsewhere?
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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:18 pm

    The flagship of the Northern Fleet "Peter the Great" returned to the base in Severomorsk

    Heavy nuclear missile cruiser "Peter the Great" returned to the fleet base in Severomorsk

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    MOSCOW, April 18 - RIA Novosti. The heavy nuclear-powered missile cruiser Peter the Great, the flagship of the Northern Fleet, returned to the main fleet base in the city of Severomorsk after completing its tasks, the press service of the Northern Fleet reports.
    "The flagship of the Northern Fleet, the heavy nuclear-powered missile cruiser Peter the Great, has completed all tasks at sea and has arrived at the fleet's main base, the city of Severomorsk," it was reported.

    The Navy clarifies that the crew of the ship has successfully passed the second task of the combat training course, during which they worked out the coordination of the team at sea and the implementation of practical combat exercises using artillery weapons.
    On Monday, the crew of the ship celebrated the Day of the ship - the 24th anniversary of the first hoisting of the naval flag, the commander of the ship, Captain 2nd Rank Artem Ponomarev congratulated his subordinates and conveyed words of welcome from the commander of the Northern Fleet - Hero of Russia Admiral Alexander Moiseev, the message says. .

    https://ria.ru/20220418/flot-1784170045.html

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    Post  GarryB Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:48 am

    Does anyone know what there next orders are? Are they returning back to base or relocating elsewhere?

    Anyone who knows what their actual orders are would not be allowed to mention them on an internet forum.
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    Post  Navy fanboy Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:16 am

    Good point, i was was wondering just in case if was in a paper in Russia. But then again west would report. My bad was just wondering from all angles i should hve clarified more in post.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:08 am

    08/25/2022
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    Heavy nuclear missile cruiser "Peter the Great" fired a cruise missile "Granit" at a sea target


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    Novosti VPK, 24 August. The flagship of the Northern Fleet - the heavy nuclear missile cruiser (TARKR) "Peter the Great" launched a cruise missile of the "Granit" complex at a target position in the Novaya Zemlya archipelago.

    The launch was carried out as part of a planned exercise with a group of heterogeneous strike forces of the Northern Fleet (SF), taking place in the Barents Sea,

    A video of the launch of the missile launcher "Granit" from the TARKR "Peter the Great" is presented on the website of the Ministry of Defense.

    According to objective control data, the maritime training target was successfully hit at a distance of more than 200 km.

    Also, as part of the exercise to protect sea communications in the Arctic, the crew of the cruiser practiced naval artillery combat with a mock enemy ship. The shooting was carried out by the combat crew of the 130-mm artillery mount AK-130.

    Earlier, the TARKR "Peter the Great" in cooperation with the destroyer "Admiral Ushakov" conducted practical anti-aircraft missile and artillery firing at air targets.

    The area of ​​the Barents Sea, where rocket firing was carried out, was closed in advance for civil navigation and aviation flights, the press service of the Northern Fleet reports.

    https://vpk.name/news/625770_tyazhelyi_atomnyi_raketnyi_kreiser_petr_velikii_vypolnil_strelbu_krylatoi_raketoi_granit_po_morskoi_celi.html

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:25 pm

    25.10.2022
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    The cruiser "Peter the Great" will conduct exercises on anti-submarine training in the Barents Sea


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    MOSCOW, 24 October. /TASS/. The heavy nuclear-powered missile cruiser Peter the Great of the Northern Fleet has entered the Barents Sea, where it will conduct anti-submarine and anti-aircraft training exercises in cooperation with aircraft and helicopters of the Air Force and Air Defense Army. This was reported on Monday by the press service of the Northern Fleet.

    "The heavy nuclear-powered missile cruiser of the Northern Fleet "Peter the Great" entered the Barents Sea to perform combat training tasks. In the Northern Fleet's combat training ranges in the Barents Sea, the crew of the cruiser began practicing combat training tasks in cooperation with aircraft and helicopters of the Air Force and Air Defense Army" , the message says.

    In the near future, the cruiser's crew will conduct a series of anti-submarine and air defense exercises. A few days earlier, the crew of the cruiser "Peter the Great" worked out issues related to the preparation of the ship in the base, the admission of the ship to the sea.

    At the first stage of the exercise, the operation of the ship's radio equipment in various modes of operation for the detection and tracking of air targets was tested. The role of the air target was performed by the Il-38 anti-submarine aircraft.

    "Pyotr Veliky" is the world's largest non-aircraft carrier attack warship equipped with a nuclear power plant. It is designed to destroy large surface targets, provide integrated air defense and anti-submarine defense. The cruiser is equipped with modern weapons systems.

    https://vpk.name/news/645809_kreiser_petr_velikii_provedet_ucheniya_po_protivolodochnoi_podgotovke_v_barencevom_more.html



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    Post  mnztr Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:19 am

    Any word on upgrades being considered? The Nakhimov project has been very silent as well, considering it was supposed to be delivered in 2022. Will it even enter sea trial before end of year?
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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:40 am

    mnztr wrote:Any word on upgrades being considered? The Nakhimov project has been very silent as well, considering it was supposed to be delivered in 2022. Will it even enter sea trial before end of year?


    Admiral Pave Nakhimov will surely sail again and Petr Velikiy will go for modernization after him - very likely. Why are you asking such stupid questions ? If Nakhimov is already undergoing modernization, then it is not difficult to guess that the younger ship, that is, Petr Velikiy, will undergo modernization as well. Petr Velikiy has only been operational for 24 years and it is certain that it will not be decommissioned. Think for a while before you ask such a question.

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    Post  mnztr Thu Oct 27, 2022 4:51 pm

    Podlodka77 wrote:
    mnztr wrote:Any word on upgrades being considered? The Nakhimov project has been very silent as well, considering it was supposed to be delivered in 2022. Will it even enter sea trial before end of year?


    Admiral Pave Nakhimov will surely sail again and Petr Velikiy will go for modernization after him - very likely. Why are you asking such stupid questions ? If Nakhimov is already undergoing modernization, then it is not difficult to guess that the younger ship, that is, Petr Velikiy, will undergo modernization as well. Petr Velikiy has only been operational for 24 years and it is certain that it will not be decommissioned. Think for a while before you ask such a question.

    its not at all a stupid question. You have no idea of the condition and life of Peter V. The Nakhimov project has also been star crossed, any idiot who has observed this project even from a distance, knows it has been a slippery slope. So now the project has taken DECADES, the Russian navy is moving to smaller ships with hypersonic weapons, is such a large target still relevant? If you can build 3-4 brand new Leider class cruisers for the same effort as upgrading the Peter V, what would you do? Only a simpleton does not understand the complexity of the decision.
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    Post  Podlodka77 Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:30 pm

    mnztr wrote:
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    mnztr wrote:Any word on upgrades being considered? The Nakhimov project has been very silent as well, considering it was supposed to be delivered in 2022. Will it even enter sea trial before end of year?


    Admiral Pave Nakhimov will surely sail again and Petr Velikiy will go for modernization after him - very likely. Why are you asking such stupid questions ? If Nakhimov is already undergoing modernization, then it is not difficult to guess that the younger ship, that is, Petr Velikiy, will undergo modernization as well. Petr Velikiy has only been operational for 24 years and it is certain that it will not be decommissioned. Think for a while before you ask such a question.

    its not at all a stupid question. You have no idea of the condition and life of Peter V. The Nakhimov project has also been star crossed, any idiot who has observed this project even from a distance, knows it has been a slippery slope. So now the project has taken DECADES, the Russian navy is moving to smaller ships with hypersonic weapons, is such a large target still relevant? If you can build 3-4 brand new Leider class cruisers for the same effort as upgrading the Peter V, what would you do? Only a simpleton does not understand the complexity of the decision.


    So what should we write about aircraft carriers if the "question" is how relevant is the most armed warship in the world ?
    Peter the Great is constantly operational and is probably one of the best maintained Russian warships. Since the beginning of this year, he has participated in at least 2 voyages and is preparing for the third. The fact that the ship has not been modernized does not mean that it is in bad condition, and it should be borne in mind that this ship also has S-300FM missiles. And as it is, it is a big and dangerous machine, because these ships of project 1144 have a huge arsenal of anti-aircraft missiles. Perhaps the modernization on Peter the Great should only be done so that the short-range Kinzhal system is upgraded and the UKSK for 80 missiles is installed. Instead of the S-300F and S-300FM systems, it is necessary to install revolver containers for missiles from the S-400 system. The Nakhimov had not been maintained over the years other than being solidly preserved and thus not deteriorated as a combat unit.
    These two ships will serve for sure until the mid or late 2040s in the Russian Navy. If something from the time of the USSR will survive for a long time in the armament of the Russian army, then it is the Tu-160, Tu-22M3, Tu-95MS and these warships. The same applies to a lesser extent to the MiG-31, Il-76M and An-124.

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    Post  mnztr Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:34 pm

    Podlodka77 wrote:
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    mnztr wrote:Any word on upgrades being considered? The Nakhimov project has been very silent as well, considering it was supposed to be delivered in 2022. Will it even enter sea trial before end of year?


    Admiral Pave Nakhimov will surely sail again and Petr Velikiy will go for modernization after him - very likely. Why are you asking such stupid questions ? If Nakhimov is already undergoing modernization, then it is not difficult to guess that the younger ship, that is, Petr Velikiy, will undergo modernization as well. Petr Velikiy has only been operational for 24 years and it is certain that it will not be decommissioned. Think for a while before you ask such a question.

    its not at all a stupid question. You have no idea of the condition and life of Peter V. The Nakhimov project has also been star crossed, any idiot who has observed this project even from a distance, knows it has been a slippery slope. So now the project has taken DECADES, the Russian navy is moving to smaller ships with hypersonic weapons, is such a large target still relevant? If you can build 3-4 brand new Leider class cruisers for the same effort as upgrading the Peter V, what would you do? Only a simpleton does not understand the complexity of the decision.


    So what should we write about aircraft carriers if the "question" is how relevant is the most armed warship in the world ?
    Peter the Great is constantly operational and is probably one of the best maintained Russian warships. Since the beginning of this year, he has participated in at least 2 voyages and is preparing for the third. The fact that the ship has not been modernized does not mean that it is in bad condition, and it should be borne in mind that this ship also has S-300FM missiles. And as it is, it is a big and dangerous machine, because these ships of project 1144 have a huge arsenal of anti-aircraft missiles. Perhaps the modernization on Peter the Great should only be done so that the short-range Kinzhal system is upgraded and the UKSK for 80 missiles is installed. Instead of the S-300F and S-300FM systems, it is necessary to install revolver containers for missiles from the S-400 system. The Nakhimov had not been maintained over the years other than being solidly preserved and thus not deteriorated as a combat unit.
    These two ships will serve for sure until the mid or late 2040s in the Russian Navy. If something from the time of the USSR will survive for a long time in the armament of the Russian army, then it is the Tu-160, Tu-22M3, Tu-95MS and these warships. The same applies to a lesser extent to the MiG-31, Il-76M and An-124.


    The decision is not the same. We already see Russia has decided to refurb the Kuz, and its a slippery slope again. At the same time they are building 2 large Mistral like ships and its an open question what the aviation component will be. As for P V, there is a highly desirable replacement in the Leider Class which is WELL within Russias capability to built (using the nuclear plant from Subs or ice breakers) and the fact that missiles today are FAR smaller so the capabilities of PV can be offered in a much smaller platform. So option 1 - BRAND NEW Leider class x 4 w 30+ year lifespan option 2 PV full update to match Nakhimov, old nuclear plants, whole host of unknowns, possibly as much or more $ only 2 ship class, shorter life span and does little to advance the state of the art of Russian ship building.
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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:09 pm

    November 1, 2:52 p.m

    The missile cruiser "Peter the Great" went to the Barents Sea to carry out air defense and air defense tasks

    Last week, the cruiser already fulfilled several planned tasks of combat training, including interaction with the crews of nuclear submarines

    MURMANSK, November 1. /TASS/. The heavy nuclear missile cruiser "Peter the Great" went to the training grounds of the Northern Fleet in the Barents Sea for training and combat tasks, including training in anti-submarine and anti-aircraft defense. The press service of the fleet announced this on Tuesday.

    "For several days, the crew of the cruiser Peter the Great will continue to work out interaction with shipborne aviation - anti-submarine and search and rescue helicopters Ka-27 of the Air Force and Air Defense Army of the Northern Fleet. Shipboard exercises on anti-submarine and air defense will also be held," the press said. -service.

    Earlier, last week, the Peter the Great cruiser had already completed several planned combat training tasks in the Barents Sea, including working out interaction with the crews of nuclear submarines.
    The heavy nuclear-powered missile cruiser Peter the Great is the world's largest non-aircraft carrier attack warship equipped with a nuclear power plant. Designed to destroy large surface targets, provide integrated air defense and anti-submarine defense.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/16218361

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