Since START goes back to the 1970s, it could never have
assumed some ABM threshold that would render the UK and French strategic nuclear missiles as ineffective.
In the 1970s there were the SALT treaties... the limitation of nuclear weapons... when the START treaties were in discussion the Soviets and the Americans had 10,000 strategic nuclear weapons each... by START II that went down to 6,000 each... and New START it is 1,550 each, so yes... the UK and French numbers were insignificant.
They are more significant now because they have not been reduced, but we are talking about Trident rather than Minuteman.... they wont need S-500s to shoot these weapons down... the S-400 could probably deal with SLBMs...
Are you serious? UK and France have 128 SLBM missiles together. Trident II and M-51. Each of these missiles can carry 10 MIRVs. Which is a potential of 1,280 strategic warheads. It is not enough? This is slightly less than the limits of the START treaty.
Bullshit... the British have 120 warheads at most and the French likely not many more. The Israelis probably have more than both countries combined.
That is, not much less than Russia's arsenal. And this is NATO's potential that is beyond this ridiculous treaty.The new administration has lifted a finger and Russia is already on its way to sign this treaty, which is extremely unfavorable for itself.
The Russians know better than you or I how many weapons that are around, and this is just a continuation of an existing treaty... if the alternative is nothing at all then continuing the treaty makes sense.
The UK and France arsenals were negligible during the Cold War years. When the amount of strategic nuclear weapons of the US and USSR was much greater. Now the arsenal of Russia and the US is significantly reduced.
And the numbers of warheads the Chinese and Israelis have are also a huge factor too, which will likely take 5 years of discussion and negotiation to sort out...
Putin's government has shown serious lack of judgement in several key areas.
There are two alternatives.... continue the existing agreement that has been in force for the last 10 years without problems, or rip it up and have no limit on nuclear weapons.
How does no limit help Russia considering the US is pissed that Russia is making unlimited range cruise missiles and Poseidon nuclear weapons... under the current agreement they are not counted, so for the next five years now the US cannot make any more of their existing weapons.
I see lots of appeasement of NATzO.
Appeasement of the EU would be the Russians continuing to abide by the INF treaty... and they said they would as long as the US did.
16 days after leaving the agreement the US tested a Tomahawk cruise missile from its AEGIS Ashore system in Europe so guess what... Russia can make 4.500km range cruise missiles and mount them on their Iskander vehicles if they wish.
propaganda cannot be dialed down with appeasement.
No it can't, but when Putin takes advantage of western stupidity and gets to ban EU food imports to Russia without them being able to take them to the WTO, and can now position long range cruise missiles in Europe because of an American test then western hate is a useful thing and Russians should be grateful they are that fucking stupid because without these western actions of hate Russia could never have boosted its own food production industries or placed long range cruise missiles in the west without a western uproar... but they can't complain.... hahahaa...
Russia's extension of the START treaty is capitulation. There is no point in signing any disarmament treaties.China immediately refused to play with any treaties. But there are no traitors there.
For Russia continuing to follow the new START treaty makes a lot of sense.... you say the UK and France can have thousands of nukes pointed at Russia.... well guess what... the New START treaty is about strategic weapons... SLBMs and ICBMs... it does not cover IRBMs and IRCMs... Russia can make as many intermediate range ballistic and cruise missiles as it pleases and that now includes hypersonic scramjet powered cruise missiles that the EU countries can't shoot down.
Signing this agreement with no amendments means Poseidon and Buresvick and even ground launched Kh-102s are not limited at all, and neither is Kinzhal or Zircon...
This is a huge win for Russia... both sides strategic weapons are restricted but the weapons Russia uses to point at the much shorter ranged targets in the Middle East and Europe are fair game now that the INF treaty is gone.