Russian Naval Shipbuilding Industry: News

But I am not sure they will change them, I have not seen the kind of rework at the flight deck that would make you think they are going to remove the Granits.

how many CBG a single sub can send to the bottom...

caveat emptor wrote:It's nice to be optimistic. Keep it up.

GarryB wrote:
I have to agree... but its remote location from the main aircraft hangar and its likely isolated and firewalled nature... I would say UKSK-M tubes with some Ovtet anti sub missiles would be more valuable to an aircraft carrier... if 80 UKSK tubes can replace 20 Granit tubes on a Kirov class then they should be able to get 40 tubes in the space for 12 Granit tubes on the Kuznetsov...

If you want to operate globally the best way is via the worlds oceans and waterways... subs are dangerous, but carrier groups hunting subs are dangerous too and western subs will only actually attack Russian subs once because the result is the same for everyone... all Russia has to do is make the west believe that attacking Russian shipping and interfering with Russian trade with the rest of the world will break the west into little broken non functioning pieces they can't recover from... via some Zircon surgery... amongst other instruments.

Building a decent navy means they are ready to trade and wont take shit from western navies who will be small by comparison in most cases except for the US Navy.

Cradle of the Black Sea Fleet
Historically, the main shipbuilding cluster of our country on the Black Sea was located in Nikolaev. This city has not yet fallen into the sphere of our control and therefore is not considered in this review. But even what is already ours has something to please connoisseurs of the sea wave.

First of all, of course, this is the Kherson Shipbuilding Plant - aka Smart Maritime Group - Kherson Shipyard (before the special operation, it was part of the Smart Holding group of Vadim Novinsky). Kherson was, in principle, the cradle of our Black Sea Fleet (its history began with the creation of a shipyard here back in the 18th century), but this particular plant was founded in 1951. The existing production facilities are based on two production zones. In the first, units up to 2000 tons are formed in the so-called large-sized building for further movement to the construction berth (two lines of construction berths, each 300 m long). In the second, hull molding is carried out on a covered construction berth on two lines of berths, each 240 m long. Historically, the plant built ships up to 170 m long and with a deadweight of up to 16,000 tons.

Here, in Kherson, the plant "Pallada" (founded in 1936 as a specialized plant for the construction of floating docks of reinforced concrete and composite construction) and the plant of ship equipment and ship fittings "Sudmash" (davits, hoists, winches, rectangular portholes, anchor devices, high-pressure hoses, marine fittings, marine hydraulic cylinders, etc.). That is, we can say that in Kherson there is a reserve for the formation of a new shipbuilding cluster.

There is also shipbuilding in Mariupol, represented by the Azov Shipyard. Mariupol Shipyard was founded in 1931 on the basis of production workshops built at the end of the 19th century. The plant has a floating dock with a carrying capacity of 15 thousand tons and can serve vessels up to 200 m long, the approach channel provides the possibility of accepting vessels with a draft of up to 8 m for repair. The enterprise has the capacity to carry out major and dock repairs. The capacities of the enterprise allow to repair up to 120 ships annually, as well as to manufacture spare parts for any type of ships.

It can be noted that Russia already has experience in resuscitation of the half-dead shipyard "Zaliv" in Kerch, which in a short time became a profitable first-class enterprise.

Practice shows an extremely high degree of utilization of existing shipbuilding capacities in Russia, which leads to the transfer of orders to foreign suppliers, which technically could be done with us. So the lack of work for the new shipyards is hardly to be worried about. We need these shipyards.

Podlodka77 wrote:The head of Ak Bars spoke about the modernization of Gepard-type corvettes

Here it only mentions Mariupol shiprepairing yard and the large Kherson shipyard, as Nikolaev (where 3 of the largest shipyards of Soviet Union were located) is still in Ukrainian hands.

GarryB wrote:

Here it only mentions Mariupol shiprepairing yard and the large Kherson shipyard, as Nikolaev (where 3 of the largest shipyards of Soviet Union were located) is still in Ukrainian hands.

The intention is demilitarising the Ukraine so even if all the existing shipyards are rebuilt, they will be rebuilt to build civilian vessels and not military ones.

Those grain terminals have rendered Nikolaev no good for big ships, but then the market for smaller ships is likely bigger anyway.

GarryB wrote:Half the farm land is owned by western companies now anyway...

GarryB wrote:Amazing the confidence you have in the west... the EU is more likely to break up than Russia... Russia is fending off attacks by hard core long term enemies (US and UK and France and Germany) trying to pull it apart... the EU is being destroyed by the US, and how stable is the US really?

Building infrastructure in countries that may not be part of Russia is stupid... what was there before is not important because it is mostly gone... there is no incentive to rebuild Antonov for instance as that is only competition that no one wants.



There was plenty of investment in Ukraine in the past by Russia... it didn't make a difference... they still rushed into the arms of the west when they got the chance shouting nazi chant and anti Russia slurs.

We need to see what is going to be the result of this conflict before we plan building cottage industries for them to profit from.

GarryB wrote:
Big shipyards need orders and should not rely on Russian orders for profit.