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    [Official] Armata Discussion thread #5

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    Post  lyle6 on Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:00 pm

    After 5 years, the first Combat Approved episode of the T-14 Armata in english and actual HD is released.

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    Post  lyle6 on Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:35 pm

    The agency's interlocutor specified that they were talking about the Omsk Automobile and Armored Materiel Engineering Institute and Novosibirsk Higher Military Command School of Moscow, September 27. /TASS/. The training of T-14 tank crews on the Armata platform began in a number of Russian military universities, in particular, the Omsk Automobile and Armored Tank Engineering Institute and the Novosibirsk Higher Military Command School. A source in the defense industry informed TASS about that.
    "By the beginning of this year, on New Year's Eve, the first batch of simulators for Armata tank crews was delivered to Omsk (Omsk Automobile Armoured Tank Engineering Institute - Adm. TASS), then - to Novosibirsk (Novosibirsk Higher Military Command School - Adm. TASS)", - said the source.
    Thus, according to him, we can talk about the beginning of training specialists to work on the newest tanks T-14, and "not only their operation, but also the use and maintenance of the newest tanks.
    In September, the Russian Ministry of Defense reported that in October the Kazan Higher Tank Command School will be equipped with a technical training computer classroom, a dynamic computer simulator and a static computer fire training simulator "Armat".
    "Armata" is a heavy crawler unified platform, developed in the concern "Uralvagonzavod" (part of Rostekh). The main tank, infantry fighting vehicle, armored repair and recovery vehicle and a number of other armored vehicles are being created on its basis.
    On August 23, during the Armia-2020 forum, the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov told the Zvezda TV channel in an interview that the promising T-14 tank on the Armata platform could be adopted for service in late 2020 and early 2021.

    https://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/1709090.html


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    Post  GarryB on Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:56 am

    Nice video, and notice it shows the vehicles of the Armata type spinning on the spot with one set of tracks going forward and the other set going backwards... I believe that was a critical shortcoming of Russian tanks mentioned... and am I mistaken or did he say the Armata has 8 forward gears and 8 reverse gears too?
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    Post  lyle6 on Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:54 am

    GarryB wrote:Nice video, and notice it shows the vehicles of the Armata type spinning on the spot with one set of tracks going forward and the other set going backwards... I believe that was a critical shortcoming of Russian tanks mentioned... and am I mistaken or did he say the Armata has 8 forward gears and 8 reverse gears too?
    It is and it does. True pivot steering is a requirement given the increased length of the Armata vehicles compared to their predecessors especially in urban environments (see Syrian T-72s ripping off their ERA skirts while trying to hug corners). And the T-15 has the same powertrain just reversed.

    BTW, with the introduction of Armata training sims to tank schools the future of Armata is practically guaranteed.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:37 pm

    Because the T-95 thread is locked I'm going to post this here. The patent for the T-95's autoloader:

    http://www.freepatent.ru/patents/2366882
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    A animation of how it works:

    https://twitter.com/gunner_schmulke/status/1315663418767089665

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    Post  lyle6 on Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:00 am

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    Post  The-thing-next-door on Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:00 pm

    Does anyone know when the fist Armatas will be entering service? There seems to be a large amount of conflicting information on this, not helped by the efforts of deranged western propagandists.
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    Post  franco on Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:20 pm

    The-thing-next-door wrote:Does anyone know when the fist Armatas will be entering service? There seems to be a large amount of conflicting information on this, not helped by the efforts of deranged western propagandists.

    Apparently next year an Armatas "trials unit" will be formed with 2 T-14 and 1 T-15 battalions along with the supporting vehicles. This unit will test, evaluate and help establish any operational, organization and tactical changes needed for the operational use of this new system.
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    Post  The-thing-next-door on Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:58 pm

    franco wrote:

    Apparently next year an Armatas "trials unit" will be formed with 2 T-14 and 1 T-15 battalions along with the supporting vehicles. This unit will test, evaluate and help establish any operational, organization and tactical changes needed for the operational use of this new system.

    I thought they were already doing that.

    When will the 1st guards tank army get them?
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    Post  franco on Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:08 pm

    The-thing-next-door wrote:
    franco wrote:

    Apparently next year an Armatas "trials unit" will be formed with 2 T-14 and 1 T-15 battalions along with the supporting vehicles. This unit will test, evaluate and help establish any operational, organization and tactical changes needed for the operational use of this new system.

    I thought they were already doing that.

    When will the 1st guards tank army get them?

    This testing unit is for tactical & operational procedure testing, not equipment testing.

    Not sure re planned timeline for this. Perhaps this unit will be one of the 1st Guards units however it could also be one of the 90th Tank Division units.
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    Post  LMFS on Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:46 am

    It was said that they would go to the Tamanskaya Motor Rifle Division:

    https://iz.ru/news/704000

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    Post  Isos on Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:06 pm

    Quite a lot of them but no 57mm gun turret.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:14 pm

    Isos wrote:Quite a lot of them but no 57mm gun turret.

    https://i.servimg.com/u/f71/19/35/56/92/ell2i310.jpg

    All in due time, vehicles are priority now and guns were always the easier part

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    Post  lyle6 on Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:16 pm

    Isos wrote:Quite a lot of them but no 57mm gun turret.

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    Old pic.

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    Post  GarryB Yesterday at 5:21 am

    I doubt the gun is wielded to the turret, so selling them with 30mm guns they have plenty of ammo for right now is a bit like selling them Armata T-14s with 125mm guns instead of with 152mm guns.... right now the 30mm might be good enough assuming this is an image that represents the vehicles they are talking about.

    I wonder if they have the new 57mm ammo in mass production yet... has it passed all its tests for BMP use in addition to air defence use and naval use?

    Note I would suspect the standard BMP 57mm gun  will be the 57mm grenade launcher because of its potent HE round which would be vastly superior to any 30mm HE round and its APFSDS round which would also be vastly superior to any 30mm AP round too...

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