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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:33 am

    Concept of new naval helicopter from Kamov. (Should this go here or in air force tread? dunno )

    http://military-informant.com/?p=25706

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    Post  d_taddei2 on Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:36 pm

    its looks like Russia are offering to upgrade and build new MI-14's

    http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150710/1024451880.html
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    Post  franco on Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:27 pm

    In honor of Naval Aviation Day;

    http://sputniknews.com/photo/20150717/1024738645.html
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    Post  Cucumber Khan on Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:19 pm

    Found this interesting blurb:
    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20150805/1163249888.html

    Su-24MR conducting exercises to detect submarines in the Sea of Okhotsk. Now, the Su-24 has no capability to detect submarines, so what is going on here?
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:31 am

    The Su-24MR is the recon model, not the strike aircraft... I am sure it could carry a range of sensors that would allow it to track surface ships and submarines in shallow waters...
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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:38 am

    GarryB wrote:The Su-24MR is the recon model, not the strike aircraft... I am sure it could carry a range of sensors that would allow it to track surface ships and submarines in shallow waters...
    Don't think so. To detect submarines, you need very specialized equipment, like a magnetic anomaly detector (MAD) or launch sonobuoys. Be-12, Tu-142 and Il-38 are the only planes in Russia with such equipment.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:39 am

    Keep in mind that they were working on the Su-32 version of the Su-34 that was supposed to be a dedicated ASW aircraft, so I would expect technology like blue green laser pods and long wave radar systems as well as MAD probes will likely have been developed for the Su-34 and therefore also possibly compatible with the Su-24 recon versions too in upgrades.

    I would expect it would be rather easy to modify a KGMU-2 dispensor pod that normally releases submunitions could be used to deploy sonobuoys...

    Of course remember aircraft have been used since WWII to detect subs simply using radar to detect periscopes.... that might be what they were doing in this case.
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    Post  nastle77 on Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:52 am

    Just to confirm some information I had regarding Soviet AV-MF in 1990

    Backfire B carried 1 or 2 Kh-22 "kitchen" ASM
    Backfire C carried 2 or 3 Kh-22 'Kitchen " ASM
    Badger G carried 1 KSR-5 Kingfish ASM
    Bear G carried 2 Kh-22 "kitchen " ASM

    Can the Backfire B carried more than 1 Kh -22 at a time , if lets say they are going for a short range mission ?
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    Post  George1 on Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:33 am

    Naval aviation will choose a replacement for Il-20 and Il-38 aircraft in two years
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    Post  George1 on Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:25 am

    Russian Navy to receive 25 new, 5 upgraded aircraft this year — defense minister
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    Post  nastle77 on Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:51 pm

    The Ka-25 Hormone A was the ASW version but what weapons could it carry most online sources say DC and torpedoes but do not specify what kind of torpedoes and how many ?
    one source says weapon load capacity was 4000 lb ? is that accurate too
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    Post  artjomh on Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:19 pm

    nastle77 wrote:The Ka-25 Hormone A was the ASW version but what weapons could it carry most online sources say DC and torpedoes but do not specify what kind of  torpedoes and how many ?
    one source says weapon load capacity was 4000 lb ? is that accurate too

    Single AT-1 or VTT-1 (on upgraded models) and 4-8 bombs (PLAB-250-100)

    Could carry up to 1100 kgs.
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    Post  nastle77 on Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:18 am

    artjomh wrote:
    nastle77 wrote:The Ka-25 Hormone A was the ASW version but what weapons could it carry most online sources say DC and torpedoes but do not specify what kind of  torpedoes and how many ?
    one source says weapon load capacity was 4000 lb ? is that accurate too

    Single AT-1 or VTT-1 (on upgraded models) and 4-8 bombs (PLAB-250-100)

    Could carry up to 1100 kgs.

    Thanks can they carry any weapons for Anti-surface action ?
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    Post  artjomh on Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:40 am

    nastle77 wrote:
    artjomh wrote:
    nastle77 wrote:The Ka-25 Hormone A was the ASW version but what weapons could it carry most online sources say DC and torpedoes but do not specify what kind of  torpedoes and how many ?
    one source says weapon load capacity was 4000 lb ? is that accurate too

    Single AT-1 or VTT-1 (on upgraded models) and 4-8 bombs (PLAB-250-100)

    Could carry up to 1100 kgs.

    Thanks can they carry any weapons for Anti-surface action ?

    There was an assault version with unguided rocket pods, but it was not widely used.
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    Post  ult on Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:50 pm

    Saki, Crimea.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:16 pm

    The defense Ministry hopes as soon as possible to resume the supply of the Mi-14 naval aviation

    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2251489

    KAZAN, September 10. /Corr. TASS Alexei Ugarov/. The defense Ministry expects to quickly resume the supply of helicopters amphibian Mi-14 the new versions for aviation of the Russian Navy, including for the protection of the state borders in the Arctic. About it September 10, said Deputy defense Minister of Russia Yuri Borisov.

    "This very popular helicopter, aviation Navy is waiting for him, so we will quickly try to return the second life of this helicopter. We very much count on Mi-14 with a new look," said Borisov during his visit to Kazan helicopter plant.
    "This is connected with the development of our Arctic coast, we don't have helicopters today with such characteristics that could be used in the Arctic," he added.
    The Deputy Minister noted that the Mi-14 has a number of unique characteristics, including load capacity and the possibility of landing on the water. According to him, the Mi-14 is not produced in the last 20 years, so now is a question of the resumption of production of a new modification of this helicopter that will meet modern requirements.
    "This helicopter will be with brand new features that provides for the transfer of it to a number, equipping it with modern avionics, the new VK-2500 engine," - said Borisov.
    He said that on the new helicopter will operate Kazan helicopter plant together with leading aviation institutes and customers from the Russian air force.
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    Post  flamming_python on Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:27 pm

    BTW, in related news, do you know what will happen to the Crimea's carrier training facilities - now that the ones in Yejsk have been finished?
    Actually they were finished before the Crimea was annexed - but then the Crimea was annexed and it turns out that Russia could in theory keep using the old ones after all.
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    Post  Guest on Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:36 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    BTW, in related news, do you know what will happen to the Crimea's carrier training facilities - now that the ones in Yejsk have been finished?
    Actually they were finished before the Crimea was annexed - but then the Crimea was annexed and it turns out that Russia could in theory keep using the old ones after all.

    "Independent aviation expert Vladimir Karnozov believes the Crimean NITKA has aged, and its future exploitation and renovation is inexpedient due to the fact that a modern NITKA in Yeysk has come into being. The new simulator will have training grounds for helicopters added in the coming years.  Karnozov told RIR that the Crimean simulator can be used by MiG-29 pilots as a springboard for overclocking. That is, it is a partial imitation of a take-off from deck. Today, the entire technological base of the Crimean NITKA, including the brake machine, needs to be reconstructed.

    Aviation systems experts also take note of the prospect for the introduction of full flight simulators to the mobility system as an important addition to real training flights. Vadim Smirnov, the Director of the Transas Aviation Group told RIR that full flight simulators on the mobility system allow for the realistic modelling of very diverse situations, including adverse weather conditions. In addition, a full flight simulator can be located in any convenient place free of dependence on the area where real training is held. At the same time, the simulator ensures the cost-effectiveness of the preparation process at a significantly higher level of security for the educational process.

    Another well-known expert in the engineering of seafaring ships, Yuri Vedernikov, thinks that electronic simulators can be a compliment to, but will never replace a real simulator. “There is no doubt that it is completely possible to develop the fundamental airplane piloting skills in an 'electric training cabinet,'” he said. “However, the development of the basic skills needed for take-off and landing in a limited space and the take-off and landing coordination of aircraft groups require training in real life. The preparation of reserve carrier-based aviation pilots requires significant lead time.” Experts believe that the Crimean simulator can be opened as a training centre and pilots of carrier-based aircraft from China and India could be trained there. Despite the fact that they have created their own NITKA analogs, the number of aircraft carriers that Russia's allies have is growing. China has started building its second aircraft carrier, as has India, and these countries may need additional training areas."

    Source: http://in.rbth.com/economics/2014/09/11/questions_rise_over_future_of_crimeas_nitka_complex_38225

    However from what i have noticed Russians still do use NITKA occasionally, latest report from just few months ago: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150713/1024556601.html
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    Post  medo on Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:05 pm

    Considering, that Yeysk will be naval flight school and training center, RuNAVY should order 12 MiG-29KUB, which will be stationed in Yeysk for new and operational carrier pilots trainings. Having also a training squadron of Su-30SM for ground based naval pilots trainings, they could as well train their air combat. NITKA in Crimea should be used as reserve training center for operational squadrons, when Yeysk will be busy with other trainings.
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    Post  Guest on Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:22 pm

    medo wrote:Considering, that Yeysk will be naval flight school and training center, RuNAVY should order 12 MiG-29KUB, which will be stationed in Yeysk for new and operational carrier pilots trainings. Having also a training squadron of Su-30SM for ground based naval pilots trainings, they could as well train their air combat. NITKA in Crimea should be used as reserve training center for operational squadrons, when Yeysk will be busy with other trainings.

    Well considering fact its for training only they can just make navalised version of Yak130 for training on NITKA. Its far more convinient, and cheaper, also you are saving resources on actual carrier airwing. Somewhat like US does with their T45s. Even more suitable for this would be SU25s but since they are out of production....Yak 130 it is.

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    Post  George1 on Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:39 pm

    Amphibious helicopter Mi-14 will return to production
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    Post  d_taddei2 on Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:13 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:The defense Ministry hopes as soon as possible to resume the supply of the Mi-14 naval aviation

    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2251489

    KAZAN, September 10. /Corr. TASS Alexei Ugarov/. The defense Ministry expects to quickly resume the supply of helicopters amphibian Mi-14 the new versions for aviation of the Russian Navy, including for the protection of the state borders in the Arctic. About it September 10, said Deputy defense Minister of Russia Yuri Borisov.

    "This very popular helicopter, aviation Navy is waiting for him, so we will quickly try to return the second life of this helicopter. We very much count on Mi-14 with a new look," said Borisov during his visit to Kazan helicopter plant.
    "This is connected with the development of our Arctic coast, we don't have helicopters today with such characteristics that could be used in the Arctic," he added.
    The Deputy Minister noted that the Mi-14 has a number of unique characteristics, including load capacity and the possibility of landing on the water. According to him, the Mi-14 is not produced in the last 20 years, so now is a question of the resumption of production of a new modification of this helicopter that will meet modern requirements.
    "This helicopter will be with brand new features that provides for the transfer of it to a number, equipping it with modern avionics, the new VK-2500 engine," - said Borisov.
    He said that on the new helicopter will operate Kazan helicopter plant together with leading aviation institutes and customers from the Russian air force.

    a pic of a Mi-14PL Haze A, i took when i was in Ukraine last year.

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    Post  George1 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:44 pm

    Shoigu: Aviation training complex in Yeisk due to open in 2016
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    Post  medo on Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:48 pm

    George1 wrote:Shoigu: Aviation training complex in Yeisk due to open in 2016

    Most needed complex for RuNAVY. They will need to deliver NAVY Yak-130 trainers for basic trainings of new pilots, a squadron of carrier based MiG-29KUB for constant training of new carrier pilots and a squadron of Su-30SM for ground based naval pilots training and for advanced combat trainings between MiG-29K and Su-30SM. Yeisk naval center will bring a new level of quality of RuNAVY pilots.
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    Post  franco on Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:29 pm

    The Russian Navy announced that will be prepared crews of naval aviation in connection with the planned in 2016 entering in its composition of more than 10 aircraft of various classes and about 20 helicopters modernized carrier-based aircraft Ka-27.

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