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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:34 pm


    So new superheavy is Soyuz-5 x 5 blocks, no surprises there.

    Russian superheavy rocket is scheduled to be launched in 2028

    .......the launch pad for the superheavy rocket will be built according to the principles implemented for the Energia booster rocket at Baikonur (site No. 250). This will be a universal stand-start complex, from which can launch both Soyuz-5 medium-range rockets and a combination of two, three and five such missiles (similar to the combination of Angara missiles using one, three and five Blocks for the design of rockets of different carrying capacity). It is the principle of combining the five rockets that is the basis of the new superheavy rocket...........

    http://tass.ru/kosmos/4323153





    Russia accelerates work on developing hydrogen engine for super-heavy carrier rocket

    The engine will increase the lift capacity of the Angara-A5 carrier rocket to 37 tonnes, and the engine will be subsequently used in the third stage of a super-heavy carrier rocket....

    http://tass.com/science/950504
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    Post  Austin Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:07 pm

    ILS‏ @ILSLaunch 5m5 minutes ago

    #EchoStarXXI Spacecraft Separation!


    Congratulations to ILS and Proton-M launcher

    https://twitter.com/ILSLaunch
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    Post  gaurav Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:02 pm

    The engine will increase the lift capacity of the Angara-A5 carrier rocket to 37 tonnes, and the engine will be subsequently used in the third stage of a super-heavy carrier rocket....

    The launch will take place by 2020 or 2021...from vostochny..

    may be this is the classified version of Energia project ..(2030 circa).This A5M is not getting discussed into media circles.

    Angara A5M

    Interfax wrote:
    Moscow. June 3. Interfax - Heavy rocket "Angara A5Ms" was first launched in 2021, he said on his Facebook account
    in the Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin.
    "The first launch of heavy rocket" Angara A5Ms "from the cosmodrome" East "is scheduled for 2021," - he wrote.
    "June 3 College of MIC and Roskosmos identify priority work on the creation of a new class of
    sup super-heavy rocket and construction of infrastructure at the Baikonur East" - also said Rogozin.
    "Angar" - family of launch vehicles of modular type with the oxygen-kerosene engines,
    comprising a carrier four classes - from light to heavy - load range of 1.5 ( "Angar 1.1")
    to 35 ( "Angar-A7") tons in low Earth
    orbit (when starting with launch site "Plesetzk"). The lead developer and producer of
    RN family "Angara" is the State Research and Production Space Center Khrunichev.
    Before the Russian Space Agency has been tasked in the first half of 2016 to develop
    a systematic project of universal launch facility with a starting point from which
    you can run any of the three versions of the launcher "Angara" - "Angara-A5",
    "Angara-A5P" ( manned) and "Angara-A5V" (increased payload).
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:37 am


    OK guys, this is a bit strange. I have checked Zak's website and weirdly enough he seems to be ignoring recent space program reshuffle and is just reporting general unrelated news.

    No whining about Angara 5P cancelation or Vostochniy alterations, no gloating about Zenit purchase or Baikonur, no shitting on Soyuz-5. Just news.

    My guess is that this new/old super heavy launcher put a sock in his mouth. When it was cancelled in 2014 in favor of Angara he was getting orgasms and gloating about space program going to the shitter without the Ukraine.

    But now nothing.

    I'd say that Roskosmos is actually back on track surprisingly enough...
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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:19 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    OK guys, this is a bit strange. I have checked Zak's website and weirdly enough he seems to be ignoring recent space program reshuffle and is just reporting general unrelated news.

    No whining about Angara 5P cancelation or Vostochniy alterations, no gloating about Zenit purchase or Baikonur, no shitting on Soyuz-5. Just news.

    My guess is that this new/old super heavy launcher put a sock in his mouth. When it was cancelled in 2014 in favor of Angara he was getting orgasms and gloating about space program going to the shitter without the Ukraine.

    But now nothing.

    I'd say that Roskosmos is actually back on track surprisingly enough...

    Zak is a 5th columnist Atlantacist twerp... he's so distraught that he can't bring himself to write the words on his website, without breaking down a crying like a girl...

    It's times like this that makes you happy to be alive! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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    Post  Rmf Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:52 pm

    so when hes not saying something bad hes a twerp , when hes saying bad stuff hes a twerp again, nice psychology there , youre hillarious Razz ....
    btw russians themselves are highly critical of space programme , maybe you should read this,...

    title: Why we have a non-flying rocket ,and deserted spaceport. (which is the FACT !)

    https://geektimes.ru/post/289555/
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:12 pm

    Rmf wrote:so when hes not saying something bad  hes a twerp , when hes saying bad stuff hes a twerp again, nice psychology there.......

    Diagnosis of stupidity and butthurt encompasses more than one symptom. Zak is liberal asswipe that gets to shit out whatever he wants online because he has English language market on this topic all to himself. For this I do blame Roscosmos.  

    Zak just can't get over his precious Ukraine going to the shitter. He is not  alone but who gives a fuck. His butt, his hurt, his problem.

    Rmf wrote:btw russians  themselves are highly critical of space programme , maybe you should read this,...

    title: Why we have a non-flying rocket ,and deserted spaceport. (which is the FACT !)
    https://geektimes.ru/post/289555/

    Answer: money

    Here is one folks from USA ask: Why we still have non-flying SLS rocket and 5 canceled manned programs (at least)?

    Answer is the same: money

    (Also, provide translation next time. I saw this tripe on Tass month ago but since it was one of Proton fanboys who wrote it I didn't bother with it)

    And keep in mind that there are 150 million Russians out there so saying that they are ''highly'' critical of it would be a stretch. Technically Navalny and Zak are Russians but you'd never guess that without wiki or bios.  

    Some Russians are also ''highly'' critical about moving out of buildings with fecal stalactites and into brand new ones for free. So, not all of them are rocket scientists (pun intended)

    Question

    I asked you this before but you gave no answer: what would you do to fix space program?

    Care to share it with us?
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    Post  kvs Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:39 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    OK guys, this is a bit strange. I have checked Zak's website and weirdly enough he seems to be ignoring recent space program reshuffle and is just reporting general unrelated news.

    No whining about Angara 5P cancelation or Vostochniy alterations, no gloating about Zenit purchase or Baikonur, no shitting on Soyuz-5. Just news.

    My guess is that this new/old super heavy launcher put a sock in his mouth. When it was cancelled in 2014 in favor of Angara he was getting orgasms and gloating about space program going to the shitter without the Ukraine.

    But now nothing.

    I'd say that Roskosmos is actually back on track surprisingly enough...

    Zak is a 5th columnist Atlantacist twerp...  he's so distraught that he can't bring himself to write the words on his website, without breaking down a crying like a girl...

    It's times like this that makes you happy to be alive!  Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

    Zak is a wanker who endlessly droned on about how the railway tunnels to Vostochny were too narrow for even the Angara rocket modules. What
    a retard, Russia can put the f*cking things on a boat in Murmansk and ship them to Vladivostok and then haul them to Vostochny. The Soyuz-5, Sunkar
    must be a physical impossibility to deploy at Vostochny according to this hack.
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:58 am

    kvs wrote:.....

    Zak is a wanker who endlessly droned on about how the railway tunnels to Vostochny were too narrow for even the Angara rocket modules.  What
    a retard, Russia can put the f*cking things on a boat in Murmansk and ship them to Vladivostok and then haul them to Vostochny.   The Soyuz-5, Sunkar
    must be a physical impossibility to deploy at Vostochny according to this hack.  


    Wut? He actually said it? Hahahahaha lol1

    That tunnel part as literally one of basic design requirements or the whole thing.

    And did he even hear about this thing called cargo airplanes? I mean rockets go to space so it's logical to assume that we have machines that can move trough the air....
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    Post  gaurav Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:20 am

    PapaDragon wrote:Technically Navalny and Zak are Russians but you'd never guess that without wiki or bios.
    Navalny is seriously some heavy currency exchange program.CNN website is streaming videos like Russia is going through another
    revolution. These people will never learn. Alex jones is an antidote to CNN. Independent media will neutralize CNN/CIA cash flow inside U.S .Once that happens cash flow for these revolutionaries will also stop.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:53 pm

    Rmf wrote:so when hes not saying something bad  hes a twerp , when hes saying bad stuff hes a twerp again, nice psychology there , youre hillarious  Razz ....
    btw russians  themselves are highly critical of space programme , maybe you should read this,...

    title: Why we have a non-flying rocket ,and deserted spaceport. (which is the FACT !)

    https://geektimes.ru/post/289555/

    I'm slagging off that useless twat Zak because he REFUSES to write ANYTHING about the recent far-reaching decisions, right, wrong or otherwise.  It is ABSURD to think that someone can run a site about Russian Cosmonautics and not write an article.

    non-flying rocket?  Because the serial fabrication facilities at Omsk are still going through production qualification, and there is no interest in building any more "hand-built" units out of Moscow. Russia has Proton and it will do until A5 is ready. There is no need to rush, or to spend extra money to fast-track progress when there is nothing to gain....

    btw russians  themselves are highly critical of space programme ... So what? People all over the world are critical of their own governments, especially when progress doesn't meet the expectations of the self-fondling groupies.... Moscow has a lot of projects running simultaneously, and money is in tight supply (as it is anywhere that doesn't run a fraudulent money-printing debt-based deficit economy) and the space program will simply have to make do with the available cash and defer progress if needed to keep within budgets. That's called responsible financial management, even if it's a foreign concept to whiney fan-boi groupie morons...

    deserted spaceport? When there are payloads, activities will ramp up.  Until then, minimal activity mode.  Vostochny wasn't built to host a single soyuz pad... that was built as a 1st phase to get the project up and running and establish the basic infrastructure and support facilities.  Also to show the Kazakhs that Russia isn't going to be blackmailed and is more than prepared to dump Baikonur if Astana doesn't get real and compromise.  If Soyuz isn't flying often, who gives a flying fuck...  Russia can fly Soyuz from Plesetsk, Baikonur, Vostochny or Kourou if needed...  plenty of options and Vostochny main claim is that it offers a near-Baikonur latitude within Russian borders.

    Do us all a favour and cease this Ukropi-style troll BS....  You don't live in Lvov by any chance?
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    Post  kvs Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:17 pm

    He does sound like a Ukr troll, doesn't he.

    Apparently, Russia can never do anything right. Self designated professional critics such as this clown, pull standards and concepts of
    progress straight from their a**es and us this a delusional "sledge hammer" to beat anyone down who makes a rational point. A key
    feature of their criticism is its brazen hypocrisy. Look at the utopia of Uncle Scam. Where is their heavy lifter? Why have they not
    colonized the Moon yet? They still rely on Russia to get their astronauts into space.

    So Vostochny is not launching the recently announced Soyuz-5 tomorrow, then it must be a fail. WTF is this retarded "logic".
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    Post  Austin Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:11 am

    Russia's space priorities : On Russia's new 2025 Federal Space Programme

    en.take-off.ru/pdf_to/to41.pdf
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    Post  George1 Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:22 pm

    Some scientific mission news

    Russia to orbit over 70 small satellites for first time

    The launch is scheduled from the Baikonur space center in Kazakhstan on July 14

    MOSCOW, June 14. /TASS/. Over 70 small satellites will be orbited by a Soyuz-2.1a carrier rocket together with a Fregat booster as associated payload under the Kanopus-V-IK space mission, Glavcosmos, the Russian operator of launch services, said on its website on Wednesday.

    The launch is scheduled from the Baikonur space center in Kazakhstan on July 14, Glavcosmos said.

    "Overall, 73 satellites will be launched as part of the Kanopus-V-IK mission. The Fregat acceleration unit will deliver the Kanopus-V-IK satellite and associated small satellites into three different orbits, with the subsequent de-orbiting of the booster. The mission of such complexity will be implemented for the first time in the history of the launch of small satellites," Glavcosmos said in a statement.

    The satellites will differ by their format: from space vehicles of the 1U CubeSat type to micro-satellites weighing up to 120 kilograms to be launched in the interests of foreign customers from the United States, Germany, Japan, Canada and Norway.

    As part of this mission, Russia will also launch two small MKA-N satellites developed by Dauria research and production association on order from Russia’s State Space Corporation Roscosmos and also three satellites of the CubeSat format designed by Russian technical universities, Glavcosmos’s statement said.

    Satellites designed by Russian universities are launched under the Roscosmos program for the support and the development of the country’s higher educational institutions in the sphere of creating small satellites. The Soyuz-2.1a carrier rocket will launch the satellites Iskra-MAI-85 (the Moscow Aviation Institute), Mayak (the Moscow Polytechnic University) and Ekvador UTE-YuZGU (the Kursk South-Western State University).

    By now, joint electrical trials of small satellites with the systems of the Fregat acceleration unit have been successfully held and preparations have been launched to integrate small space vehicles and form the space main stage, Glavcosmos said.

    The record of orbiting the largest number of satellites per launch was set by India when a PSLV carrier rocket delivered 104 small satellites into outer space on February 15.

    Glavcosmos

    The space launch operator Glavcosmos was established in 1985 in the USSR Ministry of General Machine-Building. The company engaged in the space rocket industry’s foreign economic activity, organized and held researches and participated in the work to convert defense enterprises to civil output.

    Today Glavcosmos participates in the implementation of contracts for the launch of Soyuz rockets from the Kourou spaceport in French Guiana, organizes foreigners’ flights to the International Space Station and cooperates with India and China in the space sphere.

    The Russian government wholly owns Glavcosmos.

    It was reported earlier that Glavcosmos got the status of an authorized operator of Soyuz-2 carrier rocket commercial launches from Russian cosmodromes.

    In 2017-2018, Glavcosmos plans to act as the operator of the launches of over 100 commercial micro-satellites as an additional load while orbiting three satellites under Russia’s federal program.

    Apart from this, Glavcosmos will be distributing images received from Russia’s Kanopus-V and Resurs-P Earth’s remote sensing satellites on foreign markets.

    The family of Russia’s Soyuz-2 carrier rockets currently comprises Soyuz-2.1a and Soyuz-2.1b medium-class launchers and also the Soyuz-2.1v light rocket. They can be launched from the Baikonur, Plesetsk, and Vostochny cosmodromes and the Kourou spaceport (South America).
    More:
    http://tass.com/science/951297
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:21 pm


    Construction of launchpad for super-heavy rocket on Vostochniy to start after completion of Angara launchpad.

    http://tass.ru/kosmos/4339293
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    Post  gaurav Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:53 pm

    PapaDRAGON wrote:Construction of launchpad for super-heavy rocket on Vostochniy to start after completion of Angara launchpad.

    A5M
    The launch complex for the "Angara A5Ms" heavy carrier rocket at the Baikonur East will begin to build in 2018 - Rogozin
    06.15.2017 14:58:01
         *** The third launch site, focused on super-heavy launch, will be built on the East after the 2021
         
          Moscow. June 15. Interfax-AVN - Construction of the launch complex for heavy-launch vehicle "Angara A5Ms" at the cosmodrome East will begin next year, he said in his Facebook account in Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin.
          "In 2018, construction will begin the launch complex for the heavy" Sheds A5Ms "with start-up in 2021, immediately after this third complex to be built - for extra heavy missiles," - he wrote.
          In addition, the Russian and Kazakh sides agreed on the construction of the launch complex for the middle class in Baikonur rocket.
          "Also, with regard to Baikonur, we throw it is never going to Day before yesterday we agreed with Kazakhstan for the construction of the middle class with the launch of a rocket in 2022." - wrote the deputy prime minister.
          He also said that in December, Russia plans to launch two rockets "Soyuz-2".
          "Two start Soyuz-2 are planned for this December Starting next year, the number of starts will increase annually.", - Rogozin wrote.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:27 am


    Man, you believe this shit? After they begged to keep the place running? Suspect

    Russian space launch death stirs Kazakh resentment

    http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-40285760


    News of the man's death was met with dismay from Kazakh social media users. "Russia is launching its rockets and our people are running around in their own land and putting out fires. It is ridiculous

    What is ridiculous is that the junk the falls on your shithole wasteland is more advanced than anything you can ever hope to build yourselves. You should be honored you primitive cockroaches  Razz


    Another blamed Russia for the death: "It would be better if the rocket had fallen on the Kremlin."

    Take a number bitch, I the meantime prepare next check for Sunkar payment  lol1


    "They leased out the space centre as if it were a barn and did nothing afterwards," Mels Eleusizov said at the time, "It is a shame on our country."

    Actually landscape around that spaceport does look like something you will see outside barn or better yet, pigsty but that is your problem you cunts since you are ones who should be cleaning up that shit. You morons are ones who did nothing afterwards (or ever) Laughing

    It's a shame indeed that Russia had to deal with you parasites all this time but it's all okay now. If you have any issues just say the word and Roskosmos will just move ops to Vostochniy.

    C'mon bitches, say it. Say the word! SAY THE FUCKING WORD !!!
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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:49 pm

    Kazakh media can mean anything.  This could be a western media group that operates in Kazakhstan.  So don't blame Kazakhstan for it.

    As said, if it is such a problem, Kazakhstan can just not have any signed agreements.  But it will take a toll on Kazakhstans economy.  We know that the authorities of the nation is pushing for Sunkar so obviously they are wanting it.

    Article contradicts itself too near the end about how they are bitching about it being like a barn - leasing it but not doing anything with it.  At same time, about using it causes problems.

    It is just one of those western media bullshit about nothing.

    As most Kazakhs would know, is that the spaceport is partially Russias responsibility but it is also of Kazakhstans authorities as well. And the areas around it are not Russia's responsibility at all. You can always find useful idiots, even in Russia, who write things that are retarded. Notice how it mentioned "Bloggers"? Yeah.

    Anyway, no one should take it to heart. Because the Kazakh authorities would tell these people the need for it. That Kazakhstan would be simply an oil and gas nation with nothing else if it wasn't for it.
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    Post  kvs Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:54 pm

    BBC playing its standard British meddling to initiate ethnic strife for national gain.

    Why is it Russia's fault that some idiot managed to get himself killed while putting out a grass fire in a semi-arid zone. This
    is a Darwin Award winner and not some martyr of Russian "oppression".

    Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2 - Page 8 Baikonur-wreckage

    How the f*ck did this moron manage to die with so little grass to burn? The whole story smells. It is more plausible
    that he was helped into the after life to create this fake news story.

    Also, grass fires are natural in savannas. Why was he even trying to put out the fire in the first place. It would
    burn itself out. Note that if this is a debris landing zone there would be no reason to save any grass for fodder since it
    is contaminated with N2H4.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:09 am

    They are making out a story from nothing. A guy was putting out fires, it was his own choice or he was told to do it. Either way, it shouldn't be happening. And yes, areas where they are not to be operating are areas that are where debris land. A lot of it is calculated prior.

    So none of that is Russia's fault. It is the fault of Kazakhs and their stupidity. But of course, a lot of these people don't like blaming themselves but others. Russia is an easy target.

    They would be crying pretty darn hard if Russia decided to pull out of their nation economically. It would nearly devastate them.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:47 am

    Zak is back.... with an article on how Nauka was being considered for abandonment....

    http://www.russianspaceweb.com/iss-fgb2-mlm-2014.html

    ..which of course didn't happen and won't happen. This guy is such a libtard cuck... no article on the Fenix/Sunkar at Baikonur and Federation LEO flights, or on Fenix-based SHLV for 2030, but he can devote effort into an article to once more put the worse possible face forward on the Russian space program and rip off the scabs of the Nauka fiasco simply to indulge his fetishes...

    Any doubts I had about this twat are now dispelled... what a clown....
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    Post  kvs Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:07 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:Zak is back....  with an article on how Nauka was being considered for abandonment....

    http://www.russianspaceweb.com/iss-fgb2-mlm-2014.html

    ..which of course didn't happen and won't happen.  This guy is such a libtard cuck...  no article on the Fenix/Sunkar at Baikonur and Federation LEO flights, or on Fenix-based SHLV for 2030, but he can devote effort into an article to once more put the worse possible face forward on the Russian space program and rip off the scabs of the Nauka fiasco simply to indulge his fetishes...

    Any doubts I had about this twat are now dispelled...  what a clown....

    He does not deliver any details about how "serious" the "contamination" is. The lack of details or even an effort to reason out what they are tells me
    that this piece is a political hatchet attack and not analysis. The ISS modules are old and coming to the end of their operational lives for every segment
    and not just the Russian one. Looks to me like the contamination is not serious enough and Nauka will be allowed to expire together with the other
    elements of the ISS.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:13 pm

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/94880/

    New Russian nano-satellite was delivered into orbit

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    Post  George1 Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:52 pm

    MOSCOW, June 16. /TASS/. Russia’s cargo spacecraft Progress MS-06 has automatically docked to the service module Zvezda of the International Space Station, Mission Control near Moscow said.

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    Russia launches Progress MS-06 space freighter to world’s sole orbiter

    Russian cosmonaut Fyodor Yurchikhin monitored the process and was ready to intervene manually, if need be. After the airlock has been checked and pressure inside the spacecraft and ISS equalized the crew will begin to unload the cargo vehicle.


    More:
    http://tass.com/science/951794
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    Post  Rmf Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:36 pm

    but nk -33s came from a decade of intense research, with lots of funding, testing, and best engineers working on it, its not some dumb luck ,by chance, engine.

    people forget that.

    it was meant to be man-rated , to be used in clusters with other engines , to be mass produced - just 1 N1 rocket had 36 engines (30-1st stage , 6 -2nd stage), just refine it and get going.

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