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    Post  lancelot Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:45 pm

    flamming_python wrote:That should give you an indication of the fate of any Ice Hockey World Cups due to be hosted by Russia as well
    I am still old enough to remember the shit show that was the 1980 Moscow Olympics. The US did everything they could to sabotage the event. Back then it was supposedly because of the Soviet War on Afghanistan. They always come up with some excuse. Look at last Winter Olympics in Beijing. For some reason, when the US invades someone, it is never a problem. For the rest of the world, in 1980, the US just looked like sore losers having left Vietnam still within memory, and they lost on a bunch of medals by walking out. This time, in Beijing Winter Olympics, in order not to lose on medals they tried to get other countries to walk out, but not their precious athletes. Virtue signalling at its best.

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    Post  Sprut-B Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:35 pm

    https://t.me/mapsukraine/832

    Video of Ramzan Kadyrov casually driving through the beautiful streets of Grozny. It's amazing how the Grozny has transitioned. It bears no scar of the brutal conflict of the past. The city looks so clean & well designed. This is what cities like Mariupol, Kherson would look like after the end of this year. In fact restoration has already begun in liberated areas.

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    Post  thegopnik Sun Jul 03, 2022 1:45 am

    As cities begin to improve i will miss the gopnik culture of Russia cry

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    Post  GarryB Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:22 am

    I am sure the US led west will feel very similar in a few years time....

    The saying that you get the government you deserve simply means if you don't like the way your government does things or what it does then it is up to you to change it... don't expect anyone else to do that for you....

    The west changes parties for their governments but the different parties are more or less the same on most important policies so it really doesn't change much when an election changes the leadership... they will be just as incompetent as the last lot and even then who says they will do what they promise...

    Trump got elected because he promised a proper working relationship with Russia to get things done... he didn't promise friendship... just cooperation that would benefit the US... and to bring US troops home from forever wars they fight for resources to make the 1% in the US ever so slightly richer than before while wearing out their military and using up billions in weapons and of course lives.

    He made things much worse with Russia because the other side goaded him into being stupid... which seems to come naturally to him anyway.

    All the troops he managed to bring home seemed to be immediately replaced in Syria and elsewhere... the only withdrawal he managed to set up was the one from Afghanistan which the US military sabotaged to make look bad.

    They lost 13 soldiers in one bomb blast during the withdrawal and left a lot of local allies behind.... except they do that every war they fight and the vast majority of those locals that helped them get screwed every other time... why should this time be any different.

    Zelensky got elected promising to talk to Russia and sort of the Donbass and Lugansk regions peacefully... he did neither.

    The west think he is wonderful... he is to the Ukraine was Gorby and Yeltsen were to the Soviet Union and Russia respectively.

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    Post  kvs Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:24 pm

    Western "democracy" is a sham. Here in Turdope's Kanada the pattern is a two-party circle jerk where the drift in the elite-chosen
    direction is maintained even as people vote for change. For example, in Ontario the "Conservative" Harris regime's social engineering
    was consolidated by the "Liberal" McGuinty regime. At the federal level it is the same shell game by the "Conservatives" and the "Liberals".
    Kanada has the NDP and some other transient-presence "third" parties but it is essentially following the same uni-party, two-wing model
    as the US. The UK looks like it has the identical scam going.

    Ultimately it is the sheeple who are responsible since they fear "wasting" their vote on "none of the above" or some outlier fringe.
    So they get the same deep state marionettes in "power" for decades. The deep state has power because of the predictability of
    the voting. They can take over the two (or three) main parties. If the parties voted into office were random, they would have a
    much harder job. Real wasting of the vote is voting predictably. By now everyone with a clue should be aware that the system
    is rotten.

    Russia is not immune to this disease. But its response is to have a "dictatorial" leadership where the what you see is not marionettes
    but the real deal. This is why NATzO hate propaganda has been fixated on Putin for over 20 years. The deciders in Russia sit in the
    Kremlin and not hidden in some unknown locations with unknown names. The horror.

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    Post  Scorpius Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:26 pm

    thegopnik wrote:As cities begin to improve i will miss the gopnik culture of Russia cry

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    Paintings like this have always been an exaggeration. You could never meet gopnik either in such numbers or at such a time. Their time is night, most of the "gopnik" were residents of residential neighborhoods who worked in factories, auto repair shops, mines, and so on during the day. Many of them were schoolchildren and went to school during the day. So you could meet them in disadvantaged areas, and almost never in such numbers. Don't confuse the marginalized working class with Western criminal gangs. From the point of view of the local police, a crowd of 15 men actively consuming alcohol, professing a prison subculture, is obviously socially dangerous, so in 15-20 minutes a couple of police squads would arrive at the scene, and all these gopnik would be in the police station. So they usually gathered in small groups of 3-6 people, in public places like parks, or in the garage area.

    So such pictures are just fiction. About the same as the fact that the favorite music for gopnik is hard bass. One of the typical examples of how the West creates a parallel world that is irrelevant in reality.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:34 pm

    thegopnik wrote:As cities begin to improve i will miss the gopnik culture of Russia cry

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    That shit was out 10 years ago already.

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    Post  Scorpius Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:10 am

    A small visual aid on infrastructure development on the example of one of the districts of Moscow.
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    In this photo you can see a production and warehouse complex left over from Soviet times (a brick building on the territory fenced with a concrete fence). Everything else that you can see in the photo is built in the last 5-15 years.
    The photo was taken at the MCC station at the place where the MCC intersects with one of the Moscow high-speed diameters (in the photo this is the second railway line that passes over the MCC). The third level is an automobile overpass, which has a length of several kilometers. By the way, this is a very good example for those who claim that Russia is unable to create an aircraft carrier. This automobile overpass is supported on a metal base, which has dimensions comparable to the dimensions of the hulls of American supercarriers.
    You can see its scale in comparison with the growth of pedestrians in the photo.

    P.s. Also pay attention to the "bad roads of Russia". Try to find differences here from European technologies for designing and laying the roadway.


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    Post  kvs Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:06 am

    The people making such claims are a combination of retards and the malicious. Russia can easily make carriers at Zvezda in the far
    east but currently has other priorities. The main reason that Russia does not build carriers is because it does not need colonial
    marines enforcement of its empire in the 3rd world like the US. Sending over some anti-ship missiles to countries such as Venezuela
    would be more effective than sending a Russian carrier group to counteract one dispatched from the US.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:28 am

    Sending over some anti-ship missiles to countries such as Venezuela
    would be more effective than sending a Russian carrier group to counteract one dispatched from the US.

    In ten to fifteen years time when Russia has built up a large merchant marine fleet and their destroyers and cruisers are in serial production then a couple of aircraft carriers would be useful to support the Russian navy operating in distant waters.

    Simply sending a carrier group on a world tour to visit countries could be accompanied by a few civilian cruise ships with Russian businessmen to visit the countries the Russian military visit to boost civilian trade as well as showing of Russias military equipment that is also for sale to smaller countries and allies around the world.

    Got a problem with the west bullying you... maybe a modern submarine might help, together with some rather well armed Corvettes and Frigates to patrol your waters...

    The Russian businessmen who came with the military to discuss mining and other resources you might have can chat while your militaries practise together...
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    Post  Sprut-B Fri Sep 16, 2022 2:49 pm

    Such a beautiful ancient European city. The city is clean, no beggars/homeless people, good public transportation infostructures, so many food options, vibrant city life & many more good things.

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    Post  Firebird Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:03 pm

    Sprut-B wrote:Such a beautiful ancient European city. The city is clean, no beggars/homeless people, good public transportation infostructures, so many food options, vibrant city life & many more good things.


    NN is a lovely city, but here's some info.

    Sergei Baklylov who produced this video is an absolute piece of shit BTW.
    He stole at least 150k USD from his subscribers in a "Cashbery" Ponzi fraud.

    Lawyers wrote to Youtube over a long time requesting his channel was killed as it was aggressively promoting the fraud (via every one of his videos over many months). The maggot even used his little daughter to promote it! Youtube's view was that it was mostly ripping off Russians(Cashbery was based in London BTW) so it didn't matter. Soon after the scum at Youtube gave him a SILVER award.

    He also ripped off his Patreon subscribers.
    An absolute verminous little **** who genuinely needs the shit kicking out of. Repeatedly.

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    Post  Krepost Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:44 am

    Firebird wrote:
    Sprut-B wrote:Such a beautiful ancient European city. The city is clean, no beggars/homeless people, good public transportation infostructures, so many food options, vibrant city life & many more good things.


    NN is a lovely city, but here's some info.

    Sergei Baklylov who produced this video is an absolute piece of shit BTW.
    He stole at least 150k USD from his subscribers in a "Cashbery" Ponzi fraud.

    Lawyers wrote to Youtube over a long time requesting his channel was killed as it was aggressively promoting the fraud (via every one of his videos over many months). The maggot even used his little daughter to promote it! Youtube's view was that it was mostly ripping off Russians(Cashbery was based in London BTW) so it didn't matter. Soon after the scum at Youtube gave him a SILVER award.

    He also ripped off his Patreon subscribers.
    An absolute verminous little **** who genuinely needs the shit kicking out of. Repeatedly.

    I don't doubt what you have written.

    But Sergei Baklykov is one of the few English language (foreign audience oriented) Russian Youtubers who is presenting Russia in a positive manner.
    Unfortunately, most other Russia based Youtubers (with a foreign audience orientation) try to present Russia, the government and the Special Military Operation in a negative manner.

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    Post  sepheronx Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:16 am

    Krepost wrote:
    Firebird wrote:
    Sprut-B wrote:Such a beautiful ancient European city. The city is clean, no beggars/homeless people, good public transportation infostructures, so many food options, vibrant city life & many more good things.


    NN is a lovely city, but here's some info.

    Sergei Baklylov who produced this video is an absolute piece of shit BTW.
    He stole at least 150k USD from his subscribers in a "Cashbery" Ponzi fraud.

    Lawyers wrote to Youtube over a long time requesting his channel was killed as it was aggressively promoting the fraud (via every one of his videos over many months). The maggot even used his little daughter to promote it! Youtube's view was that it was mostly ripping off Russians(Cashbery was based in London BTW) so it didn't matter. Soon after the scum at Youtube gave him a SILVER award.

    He also ripped off his Patreon subscribers.
    An absolute verminous little **** who genuinely needs the shit kicking out of. Repeatedly.

    I don't doubt what you have written.

    But Sergei Baklykov is one of the few English language (foreign audience oriented) Russian Youtubers who is presenting Russia in a positive manner.
    Unfortunately, most other Russia based Youtubers (with a foreign audience orientation) try to present Russia, the government and the Special Military Operation in a negative manner.

    Thise people aren't in Russia since that lying on media form is now a punishment in Russia. They are now forcing people to be honest since a lot of them aren't.
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    Post  Sprut-B Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:53 am

    But Sergei Baklykov is one of the few English language (foreign audience oriented) Russian Youtubers who is presenting Russia in a positive manner.
    Unfortunately, most other Russia based Youtubers (with a foreign audience orientation) try to present Russia, the government and the Special Military Operation in a negative manner.

    I had to unsubscribe from most English speaking Russian Youtubers cause they're all riding the bandwagon of presenting Russia in a negative manner both in terms of sanctioned economy & the ongoing SMO. This SMO has revealed the true colours of many Russian Youtubers whom I used to follow. Some of them are not liberal but are trying to appease their Westrn/Euro subscribers which i find totally absurd considering that even the shittiest cringiest reaction videos on anything related to India can fetch you thousands if not millions of view in a single day. So i don't get logic of trying to appease some Nazi loving degenerate LGBTQ liberal morons.

    Sergei may be a garbage human being but at least he's not a total liberal sellout like the majority of the English speaking Russian vloggers. He isn't against the SMO & also debunked many fake news like the infamous story of mold found in the Russian new burgers.

    He said in one of his livestream vlogs that he doesn't like the way most Russian vloggers represent the country even before the SMO. Most English speaking Russian vloggers would film the shittiest part of country like they would deliberately search for a pothole in road or an old broken apartment complex to fed the ego of their Western viewers. Sergei said that he had travelled to Europe & USA, & in any place you can find a shitty area if that's what you're looking for. In Russia in cities like Moscow & Saint Petersburg it's really hard to find a shitty area. Even the liberal traitors have to show these cities in a positive way that how well maintained these cities are. But it also creates a false perception that only these cities are good - rest are trash. Hence Sergei Baklykov took the initiative of livestreaming other cities, towns, villages & remote places so that viewers could unbiasedly looked at Russia in its true form.

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    Post  Sprut-B Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:59 am

    Another good English speaking Russian YouTuber. He has a good sense of humour & his English is better than Baklykov. Check him out.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:05 am

    Came across a vid by an Indian student who visited Samara this summer
    And was inspired by how picturesque the city is, and how many historical buildings have been preserved and refurbished.



    Decided to take a closer look

    In fact this city is a treasure-trove of late Tsarist-era and early Soviet architecture. Many more examples of which are in the process of being restored:

    Samara Academic Theatre of Opera and Ballet
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    Maxim Gorky Samara Academic Theatre of Drama (scheduled for restoration)
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    Litvinov Palace of Culture (undergoing restoration)
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    Dzherzhinsky House of Culture (undergoing reconstruction)
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    Kitchen-Factory (now a branch of the Tretyakov Gallery)
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    Krupskaya Central City Library
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    Maxim Gorky Literature Museum of Samara (under reconstruction)
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    Stalin's Bunker
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    Iver Monastery
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    Shikhobalovskaya Almshouse (undergoing restoration)
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    Choral Synagogue (under reconstruction)
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    Historical Mosque (undergoing restoration)
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    Dacha of Golovkin the Merchant (undergoing reconstruction)
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    Shikhobalov's Estate (undergoing restoration)
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    Suroshnikov's Estate
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    Mashtakov's House (under reconstruction)
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    Neronov's House (scheduled for restoration)
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    Kirillov Brothers' House (undergoing restoration)
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    Ivanov's Wine Warehouse (undergoing restoration)
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    Cookery of Von Vakano
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    Building at the intersection of Polevaya and Michurina St. (undergoing restoration)
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    Building complex at the intersection of Komsomolskaya and Stepan Razin St. (scheduled for restoration)
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    83 Stepan Razin St. (under reconstruction)
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    49 Nekrasovskaya St.
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    26 Ventseka St. (undergoing restoration)
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    45 Ventseka St.
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    82 Molodogvardeiskaya St.
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    105 Molodogvardeiskaya St. (undergoing restoration)
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    92 Vodnikov St. (undergoing restoration)
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    94 Sadovaya St. (undergoing restoration)
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    212 Sadovaya St. (undergoing restoration)
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    130 Chapayevskaya St. (undergoing restoration)
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    22 Leningradskaya St. (undergoing restoration)
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    49 Frunze St.
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    89 Frunze St. (undergoing restoration)
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    5 Flotskaya St.
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    9 Panov St.
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    11 Kalinin St.
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    175 Samarskaya St.
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    80 Pionerskaya St.
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    And they are sprucing up even late Soviet-era mass housing blocks quite nicely too:
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    Post  ALAMO Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:23 am

    flamming_python wrote:

    Ivanov's Wine Warehouse (undergoing restoration)
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    That reminded me something Laughing
    It is quite common in Russia to place a false facade made of fabric, to cover a building that is undergoing reconstruction.
    Or is just ugly, awaiting one.
    This is often used as a tool of propaganda, as an example of "Potemkin village".
    I have just realized when I have seen something similar for the last time...
    Well ... in Spain.
    Cartagena, to be precise Laughing
    Here you go :
    37.59989707609658, -0.9842823018965293
    A whole area surrounding the Roman theatre is made of empty facades only, while the other walls of homes are already demolished. Everything is covered by fabric fake walls, with windows, doors and balconies.

    And in Italy.
    Genua, to be precise - but I can't find it now on the map, neither can find my photos made of it. But that was some side street from Garibaldi Ave, so the essential core of the city center, next to the main harbor and aquarium.
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:26 am

    Samara is also increasingly known for its great beach and embankment along the confluence of the Samara and Volga rivers, that it constructed in time for the 2018 World Cup. The longest in Russia in fact





    Since then they've also built quite a few new parks, viewpoints and recreational areas




    In my estimation Samara will take off this decade as a cheaper resort city or retirement spot perhaps. The nature is pristine (haven't been to Samara, but to Tolyatti nearby), the buildings are historic, the summers are hot, the beaches are great, the location is along the way of many highways and railroads, and perhaps most importantly - the local administration is competent.


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    Post  flamming_python Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:28 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:

    Ivanov's Wine Warehouse (undergoing restoration)
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    That reminded me something Laughing
    It is quite common in Russia to place a false facade made of fabric, to cover a building that is undergoing reconstruction.
    Or is just ugly, awaiting one.
    This is often used as a tool of propaganda, as an example of "Potemkin village".
    I have just realized when I have seen something similar for the last time...
    Well ... in Spain.
    Cartagena, to be precise Laughing
    Here you go :
    37.59989707609658, -0.9842823018965293
    A whole area surrounding the Roman theatre is made of empty facades only, while the other walls of homes are already demolished. Everything is covered by fabric fake walls, with windows, doors and balconies.

    And in Italy.
    Genua, to be precise - but I can't find it now on the map, neither can find my photos made of it. But that was some side street from Garibaldi Ave, so the essential core of the city center, next to the main harbor and aquarium.

    In Russia it's the standard practice. I didn't see it often outside Russia, but definitely a few times in Europe; it's nothing new

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    Post  Werewolf Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:46 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    That reminded me something Laughing
    I, see...We are alike. Naughty Naughty! Laughing

    ALAMO wrote:
    It is quite common in Russia to place a false facade made of fabric, to cover a building that is undergoing reconstruction.
    Or is just ugly, awaiting one.
    This is often used as a tool of propaganda, as an example of "Potemkin village".
    I have just realized when I have seen something similar for the last time...
    Well ... in Spain.
    Cartagena, to be precise Laughing

    They do that sometimes in German cities as well. Mostly bigger prettier cities like Munich, however they are very rare and most of the time you have just open ugly construction sides be it roads or buildings. Since the Germans also have a very vibrant problem with corruption in building/construction sector and construction sites are open for months or several years, it does lower the "living/experience standard" of your city.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:54 am

    Never seen that in Germany, honestly.
    But the question is what we are talking about?
    Covering the facade with fabric coating is standard, it covers the scaffolding and makes the whole construction site less messy. No dust etc.
    But painting on that something that should false an original facade, with windows, doors, etc - is not so common Laughing
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    Post  Werewolf Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:12 am

    ALAMO wrote:Never seen that in Germany, honestly.
    But the question is what we are talking about?
    Covering the facade with fabric coating is standard, it covers the scaffolding and makes the whole construction site less messy. No dust etc.
    But painting on that something that should false an original facade, with windows, doors, etc - is not so common Laughing

    I don't have really the time to google for anything that would cover up the facade of a building with the concept art what it is gonna look like, because that is really really rare in Germany and only some prestige construction companies do that for very few fancy projects.

    But overall, yes some fabric with usually some logos, telephone numbers to hire the construction company and maybe sponsors is all that you will see in 99% of the time. Some times a small sign that says what is being constructed and the time window along with some company's website to rent/buy newly build apartments or working space like offices. The Russian approach is alot better as it hides the ugly construction site and doesn't lower the beauty of the city or local area. I have lived more than 12 years in Munich and the city center was and is still under construction all those years. China would have finished all projects within a 2-3 years for a fraction of the costs. Hell, any non EU country would have finished the projects within an acceptable time window. The corruption here is annoying and massive.

    It wouldn't be annoying if they would finish up the work in a month or a few months, but not several years for a simple road renewal or new pipes and wiring.

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    Sometimes you have 2m high fences with fabric to cover the ugly sight and protect the workers from to many eyes of pedestrians.
    However, seeing open construction sides with no progress for months or years just makes the area depressive and certainly should lower the cost for sqm or rent, but of course, it does not lower the cost at all.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:13 am

    ALAMO wrote:Never seen that in Germany, honestly.
    But the question is what we are talking about?
    Covering the facade with fabric coating is standard, it covers the scaffolding and makes the whole construction site less messy. No dust etc.
    But painting on that something that should false an original facade, with windows, doors, etc - is not so common Laughing

    Not that common but pretty sure I've seen it. In the UK at least, maybe some place else too.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:21 am

    It might be the case Werewolf talked about - only some fancy reconstructions made by solid companies bother this.
    And imagine, that it can be used for throwing some more shit on Russkies as well Laughing Laughing

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