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    VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:53 pm

    TR1 wrote:Izvestya?

    Come on man Wink
    lol didn't notice, what a relief

    Izvestia makes up any old bollocks
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    Post  Viktor Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:52 pm

    Well lots of interesting links.

    At MAKS-2013 for the first time introduce AESA NIIP X-band side-scan for the PAK FA

    According to the results of flight tests of the Su-30cm with RCS "Bars-R" Russian Air Force gave a preliminary conclusion


    AFAR L - range is designed for use in modern airborne radar system. Placed thrust wing leading edge plane. Provides electronic beam scanning over a wide angular sector in azimuth and wide bandwidth.

    AESA L -band is made ​​on the basis of modern hybrid-integrated home technologies and can serve as the basis for creating AFAR with one-dimensional and two-dimensional electronic scanning radar systems for various aircraft and land-based.

    The active phased array L-band


    The active phased array radar for airborne X - band
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    Post  Viktor Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:13 pm

    3 modernized A-50U and 2 brand new Tu-214ON by the end of year

    Defense Ministry will receive the 2013 three upgraded aircraft A-50


    Russian Defense Ministry will receive at MAKS first of two Tu-214ON

    Russia recently sold 5% stake in EADS worth 2.5 bin $ and now this. Maintenance contract for aircraft fleet support for 3 years.

    KLA and the Ministry of Defence signed a contract of 80 billion rubles РИА Новости http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20130827/958941807.html#ixzz2dB2Mr1Og
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    Post  Viktor Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:34 pm

    New ECM for Su-30SM called Hibiny-U

    A unique complex of electronic warfare will create for the Russian Air Force   РИА Новости http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20130828/959120947.html#ixzz2dGYSXvRb


    Testing of missiles on PAK-FA to start this year

    The tests missiles on board the T-50 will begin this year



    Now here is some interesting stuff. So testing of Kh-101/102 is over but what is interesting is that PAK-DA will have even air to air missiles Very Happy 





    "Some of the missiles for PAK DA (promising aviation complex long-range aircraft) are ready - first of all, the air-to-air missiles and air - surface long-range" - said Obnosov.


    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20130828/959161386.html#ixzz2dGaEVnKw
    Part of missiles for PAK DA is ready



    Going hypersound. Plan is set in motion.

    "Tactical Missiles" has created a program to HYPERSOUND in Russia


    and aiming high - sustained Mach 10+ Very Happy 


    In Russia the hypersonic missile
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    Post  Viktor Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:01 pm

    Damn ....

    UAC does not plan to create a fifth-generation fighter, in addition to the T-50
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    Post  medo Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:59 pm

    Viktor wrote:Damn ....

    UAC does not plan to create a fifth-generation fighter, in addition to the T-50
    I think it is better to buy more T-50 like 500 plus 500 Su-35 and Su-30SM than loosing money and time developing another fifth gen plane.
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    Post  TR1 Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:56 pm

    I actually agree. I'd rather just see more PAKFA.

    However, there has been mention of a new tactical aircraft to replace Su-25 - so while it may not be "5th" gen like PAK-FA, it is still something.
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    Post  AlfaT8 Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:54 am

    TR1 wrote:I actually agree. I'd rather just see more PAKFA.

    However, there has been mention of a new tactical aircraft to replace Su-25 - so while it may not be "5th" gen like PAK-FA, it is still something.
    SU-25??
    I thought it was the MIG-31.Suspect 
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    Post  TR1 Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:04 am

    PAk-Sha was announced a while back.
    It won't be anything supremely revolutionary in any case.

    MiG-31 replacement is a bigger question mark IMO.
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    Post  Viktor Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:30 pm

    PAK-DA will have hypersonic weapons - thats nice and expected.

    The new strategic bomber in the Russian Federation will hypersonic weapon



    PAK-FA will enter RuAF by 2017

    Fifth-generation fighter will arrive in the Russian Air Force in 2017



    RuAF will by 40 new tankers based on Il-478

    Defense Ministry intends to buy about 40 Il-78 with new engine



    PAK-DA will replace all three types of bombers in RuAF

    PAK DA will be able to immediately replace the three types of long-range aircraft Russia



    S-500 no latter than 2018 - we will wait you Laughing 

    The latest air defense system S-500 will go to the Air Force of the Russian Federation no later than 2018



    - MIG-31 will serve in RuAF until at least 2028

    MiG-31 will serve in the Russian Air Force until at least 2028
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    Post  GarryB Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:48 pm

    I think it is better to buy more T-50 like 500 plus 500 Su-35 and Su-30SM than loosing money and time developing another fifth gen plane.
    I would like to see a light 5th gen fighter that is not as large or expensive as the T-50.

    Something that is stealthy but able to carry modest payloads internally but large payloads externally without stealth.

    The idea would be that these smaller lighter fighters can engage enemy aircraft without any disadvantage and once the enemy threat has been dealt with it can carry large external payloads to deal with ground targets.

    The replacement for the Su-25 doesn't need stealth in my opinion... armour agility and active defence measures and stand off weapons should do the job.

    A replacement for the Mig-31 makes sense too... some big supercruising aircraft similar to the Tu-22M3M would be interesting with two 5th gen engines from the PAK DA and a built in scramjet engine to allow supersonic cruising at mach 2.5 at low throttle settings would be ideal.

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    Post  Hachimoto Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:54 pm

    The next thing will be big order for Pak-FA / New Engine readiness / prepare the road for the 6Gen figther. this is somehow the fastest way to catch up the US (yes i know this is not pro to say it but let face it, it is a silent run to a new cold war Very Happy)
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    Post  Mindstorm Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:56 pm

    Viktor wrote:Damn ....

    What is "damn" Viktor about the news in question?

    Mikhail Pogosyan has simply reiterated that today, in the present SAP , no development of different fifth generation aircraft, other than PAK-FA, is foreseen.

    Where is even the news ?


    SAP 2020-2025 ?

    It is all another history............


    Present SAP 2020 : no ЛМФС

    SAP 2025 : ЛМФС


    http://www.aviaport.ru/news/2013/05/14/254804.html





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    Post  Viktor Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:17 pm

    Tnx for explanation mindstorm. I was puzzled because of clear plans to construct LMFS and its sudden dropping off.

    That fighter will already in few years have its engine, missiles, radar and electronic set ready to use Very Happy  so it would be a shame not to construct an airframe.Smile 
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    Post  TR1 Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:00 am

    http://fotografersha.livejournal.com/436952.html

    Excellent photo set.
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    Post  TR1 Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:08 am

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/40782/

    Russian Helicopters on track to make 321 choppers this year. Last year they sold 289.

    The best part of it is the breakdown however. The current portfolio is 870 helicopters (worth 388 billion rubles) and only 232 are export!
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    Post  Austin Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:02 am

    870 is very low if they can churn out  320 per year or may be more.

    They need to have a portofolio of like 1500 plus choppers.

    As per SAP 2020 they were support to buy 1200 choppers what happend to that ?
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    Post  eridan Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:50 am

    is there anywhere a breakdown of actual customers? For example, how many private firms in Russia have bought russian helicopters? How many state owned agencies and services (which are not under ministry of defense) have bought russian helicopters?
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    Post  GarryB Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:08 am

    As per SAP 2020 they were support to buy 1200 choppers what happend to that ?
    Isn't it obvious?
    They haven't got an order for PAK FA yet either because it is not totally ready for serial production, equally they wont have any orders for the Mi-28M either because that aircraft isn't ready either.

    The SAP 2020 expires in 2020 so you can't expect everything in SAP 2020 to be already on the order books by 2013.
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    Post  Viktor Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:29 pm

    Nice

    Five new Mi-8 AMTSH "Terminator" came at an air base in the Khabarovsk region BBO
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    Post  TR1 Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:53 pm

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    Post  Viktor Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:41 am

    Expected but still very important. 

    SOUTH receive about 30 combat aircraft and helicopters before the end of the year

    Another Mi-26 Russian Air Force

    In pictures. New Mi-28N and Mi-35M
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    Post  medo Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:34 pm

    Viktor wrote:Expected but still very important. 

    SOUTH receive about 30 combat aircraft and helicopters before the end of the year

    Another Mi-26 Russian Air Force

    In pictures. New Mi-28N and Mi-35M
    I wonder if those Su-30M2 in South will replace naval Su-24 in Sevastopol.
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    Post  Viktor Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:42 pm

    Interesting read thumbsup 

    We need a light fighter
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    Post  Stealthflanker Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:41 am

    Viktor wrote:Interesting read thumbsup 

    We need a light fighter
    Possibility of single engine PAKFA ?

    My "MiniPakfa"

    Aside from Russian attitude toward single engine craft..i wonder whether any exception can be given.. mainly for logistical thoughts.. it would be convenient if PAKFA and the light fighter can share same engine.

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