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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:10 pm

    TSNIITOCHMASH (Central Research Institute Of Precision Engineering) has developed a new collimator sight with unique characteristics.

    The Central Research Institute of Precision Engineering of the State Corporation Rostec has developed a new collimator sight PKM 75 with unique characteristics of accuracy and energy consumption. The product will increase the accuracy of shooting at moving targets, is compatible with night vision sights and surpasses foreign developments presented on the arms market.

    In modern collimator sights, instead of the reticle, a special mark is used - the "dot" mark, the accuracy of which is measured in fractions of a degree - angular minutes. The accuracy of aiming and shooting depends on the size of the point. Unlike its existing counterparts with a two-minute sighting mark, the new sight has the smallest "dot" mark with a size of just one angular minute. This will significantly increase the accuracy of the weapon and allow you to shoot from a greater distance.

    Another feature is the record time of continuous operation without replacing batteries, exceeding 50,000 hours. This is the first domestic sight that can use high-capacity lithium batteries.

    "The sight is designed for installation on small arms equipped with a special mount - Picatinny rail, for example, on all models of the Kalashnikov assault rifles, special small arms such as Vintorez, Val and assault rifles. The development will increase the accuracy of shooting, especially at long distances. The product exceeds the level of foreign collimator sights, including those used by NATO. The novelty has already passed the stage of preliminary tests and will be demonstrated to specialists of law enforcement agencies at the International Military-Technical Forum "Army-2021", - said the Rostec weapons cluster.

    The sight is compatible with night vision devices of all generations, can be operated in difficult weather conditions at temperatures from minus 50 to plus 60 degrees.
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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:52 pm

    Russia has started mass production of "bullpup" ADS submachine guns for underwater shooting. 

    As told in Rostec state corporation, in Russia began the production of ADS submachine guns, which will be used for underwater shooting. They can also be used on land. These two-medium weapons, mainly intended for combat swimmers, are manufactured by the Central Design and Research Bureau of Sports and Hunting Weapons, which is part of the High-Precision Complexes holding.

    This was stated to the TASS news agency by Alexander Starostin, head of the Central Design and Research Bureau of Sports and Hunting Weapons, at the International Naval Salon, which is currently being held in St. Petersburg.

    An experimental batch of ADS was delivered to the troops back in 2019. As a result of its operation, the weapon was upgraded, taking into account the wishes and comments of the military, mainly regarding the convenience of its use.

    The principle of the bullpup layout, on the basis of which the design of the machine gun was created, makes the weapon more compact. The small length of the ADS does not require a folding stock.

    All types of 5.45 x 39 mm ammunition can be fired on land. Special PSP and PSP-UD cartridges are used for shooting in the water environment.

    Source: https://topwar.ru/184368-v-rossii-nachali-proizvodstvo-avtomatov-ads-dlja-podvodnoj-strelby.html?utm_source=website&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=group
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:36 pm

    Awesome... that looks like an excellent design, its compact design makes it handy for troops that are moved by vehicle or aircraft and it is ready to fire without needing a stock extended.

    The mechanism ejects shell cases from a small oval port just above the trigger area so you can shoot it left or right handed without any adjustments or risk of getting hot metal in your face.

    The built in grenade launcher looks good too.

    Would be interesting to see what upgrades and modifications they have made to the design.
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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:48 am

    LLC "Molot-Oruzhie" has released a copy of the PPSh submachine gun for the Altay 9-mm caliber (PPSh-Altay). Only 50 copies were made, the price is 82 thousand rubles.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:35 pm

    Russian_Patriot_ wrote:LLC "Molot-Oruzhie" has released a copy of the PPSh submachine gun for the Altay 9-mm caliber (PPSh-Altay). Only 50 copies were made, the price is 82 thousand rubles.
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    I'll pay that Very Happy

    'cept the Australian Nazi Party aka Federal Government has enacted draconian gun laws Sad

    Can't have the peasants being able to say no to the landowners and back up their words with actions if needed...
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:08 pm

    A blank firing model for re-enactment groups and just as a collectors piece would be amazing....

    Especially if the blanks could be reloaded by the user to reduce costs.

    82,000 rubles is about NZ$1,600... not bad really... for a blank firing replica...
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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Tue Aug 10, 2021 4:00 pm

    AK converted for a 7.62x25 with a magazine from PPSh. 
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    Post  Cyrus the great Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:36 am

    The AKV-521 seems like the ideal AK -- especially for mounting IR and scopes on handguard; it has a monolithic rail so it should be better than the AK-12 in accommodating heavy IR devices on the handguard.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:29 pm

    Not sure what you mean... mounting all sorts of sights one in front of the other is not the sort of thing most people who use such weapons actually do.

    Getting a decent sight makes more sense than having three or four different sights mounted at the same time...

    The AK-12 seems fine in that regard anyway.
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    Post  TMA1 Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:01 am

    Russian_Patriot_ wrote:AK converted for a 7.62x25 with a magazine from PPSh. 
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    Haha and it comes with the infamous dong as well. Truly cursed.

    Edit: autocorrect is sometimes ghey

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:27 am

    The new 9x19 mm Kalashnikov submachine gun:
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    Special 5.45-mm Kalashnikov machine gun for combat pilots:
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    Post  GarryB Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:12 pm

    So Vityaz-SN and AKS-74U replacements.

    Hard to see the AKS-74U replacement with those camera mounts all over it...

    But I will take two of each please...
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    Post  GarryB Sun Aug 22, 2021 5:10 pm

    The 9mm...

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:53 am

    Kalashnikov produced the first batch of prototype AM-17 assault rifles designed for pilots

    The Kalashnikov Group of Companies (part of Rostec State Corporation) has produced the first batch of the latest small-sized AM-17 assault rifles designed to equip pilots and crews of combat vehicles. This was reported to TASS by the press service of the Kalashnikov Group of Companies (GC) during the Army-2021 international military-technical forum.

    "A batch of prototypes [AM-17]has already been produced, and we plan to enter state tests by the end of the year. We expect to conduct preliminary tests soon. Customers are showing interest in the AM-17, a compact and lightweight assault rifle that can be used in confined spaces" – Kalashnikov. 

    Initially, the AM-17 was designed for 5.45 x 39 mm ammunition. "At the same time, automatic weapons are being developed for 7.62 x 39 mm and 5.56 x 45 mm cartridges" – the press service added.

    During the Army 2020 exhibition, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation proposed that the Kalashnikov Group of Companies finalize the AM-17 assault rifle so that it can be used to arm pilots of Su-35 and Su-57 aircraft. To do this, it is necessary that the machine gun is placed in the pilot's satchel.

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:02 am


    Pilots always get the nicest stuff

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:06 am

    Pilots aren't going to be going Rambo behind enemy lines

    That Su-24 pilot who parachuted out, one of them, was riddled with bullets in the air; but a carbine wouldn't have saved him

    The other pilot I think was captured without resistance

    If they manage to evade immediate capture then they'll need a self-defense weapon of course.
    I don't see what's wrong with a pistol, or a compact SMG that's already on the market.

    Although I think they may have traditionally been armed with AKS-74U's, as have tank and vehicle crews. If this is a carbine to replace all of those across all types of plane and vehicle crews, then it's about time.
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    Post  xeno Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:55 am

    flamming_python wrote:Pilots aren't going to be going Rambo behind enemy lines

    That Su-24 pilot who parachuted out, one of them, was riddled with bullets in the air; but a carbine wouldn't have saved him

    The other pilot I think was captured without resistance

    If they manage to evade immediate capture then they'll need a self-defense weapon of course.
    I don't see what's wrong with a pistol, or a compact SMG that's already on the market.

    Although I think they may have traditionally been armed with AKS-74U's, as have tank and vehicle crews. If this is a carbine to replace all of those across all types of plane and vehicle crews, then it's about time.
    Kalashnikov guy said it is meant to replace AKS-74U's in this video...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bTzA1KYFWw
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    Post  GarryB Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:03 pm

    It is for crews and crew served weapons so they can have decent fire power in the worst case scenario where otherwise they would normally only have a pistol... in which case you would only need one round... and would probably be better off with a large hand grenade or claymore type mine.
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    Post  lyle6 Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:12 pm

    You can fit one in a backpack. Sneeki breeki types would love it.
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    Post  TMA1 Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:12 pm




    Here is an incredible 3d blowup and animation of the TKB-022 bullpup rifle. It has a mind blowingly exotic action, gorgeous in its movements like a watch. Its ugly as sin tho. Very short and definitely worth a minute or so viewing. The channel is of a pretty famous Soviet weapons historian Maxim Popenker.

    Note the crazy method of ejecting the casings. Very awesome. Reminds me vaguely of the kord mg shooting the casings forward.

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:26 pm

    TMA1 wrote:


    Here is an incredible 3d blowup and animation of the TKB-022 bullpup rifle. It has a mind blowingly exotic action, gorgeous in its movements like a watch. Its ugly as sin tho. Very short and definitely worth a minute or so viewing. The channel is of a pretty famous Soviet weapons historian Maxim Popenker.

    Note the crazy method of ejecting the casings. Very awesome. Reminds me vaguely of the kord mg shooting the casings forward.

    I can't say I find it practical

    What if a bullet hits an ejecting casing? Even if firing and ejection are synchronized against each other, it still seems like it would possible, or some kind of blockage.
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    Post  TMA1 Tue Aug 24, 2021 7:16 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
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    Here is an incredible 3d blowup and animation of the TKB-022 bullpup rifle. It has a mind blowingly exotic action, gorgeous in its movements like a watch. Its ugly as sin tho. Very short and definitely worth a minute or so viewing. The channel is of a pretty famous Soviet weapons historian Maxim Popenker.

    Note the crazy method of ejecting the casings. Very awesome. Reminds me vaguely of the kord mg shooting the casings forward.

    I can't say I find it practical

    What if a bullet hits an ejecting casing? Even if firing and ejection are synchronized against each other, it still seems like it would possible, or some kind of blockage.

    Haha no way it's an overcomplicated design that would be a pain to fully maintain and would undoubtedly be prone to many different failures. It's also ugly as sin. But the design is very fascinating and lovely and has some very clever elements.

    No way it could compete with an AK derivative tho. Still it is very based.
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    Post  lyle6 Tue Aug 24, 2021 7:40 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    I can't say I find it practical

    What if a bullet hits an ejecting casing? Even if firing and ejection are synchronized against each other, it still seems like it would possible, or some kind of blockage.
    The hammer never cocks in place until that ejector thingy has moved forward and pushed the casing out.

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:11 am

    lyle6 wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    I can't say I find it practical

    What if a bullet hits an ejecting casing? Even if firing and ejection are synchronized against each other, it still seems like it would possible, or some kind of blockage.
    The hammer never cocks in place until that ejector thingy has moved forward and pushed the casing out.

    I get that, but we don't know where that casing will be by the time the hammer impacts again and the next shot rings out

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