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    Post  ahmedfire on Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:50 pm

    Yes but lake Nassar is clearly not enough. Egypt has legitimate concerns, but I do not think these 3 can take the ego and emotion out of it. They really need external facilitators. The new dam can benefit all 3 I don't see why they cannot base it on maintaining lake Nassar at a certin range of levels based on certain annual outflows. if there is a drought the filling slows, heavy rains, it speeds up

    Because Ethiopians don't need anyone to tell them how or when to fill the lake behind the dam .


    There is no such thing as an earthquake proof structure, but you can put structures down river to divert and break up the water front to minimise the damage if it should fail.

    The technical studies should be done by a common engineering committee between the three countries to evaluate the geologic, hydraulic, and seismic design criteria and design criteria . Sudanese life also matters .

    Perhaps as a richer more powerful country you could invest and help your neighbour instead of threatening them and taking them to "court"... I would think better relations would be good for both countries...

    Egypt didn't threat them by a military action ,actually the negotiations is going on sine 9 years !

    Actually Egypt has helped Ethiopia alot before , by building hospitals and sending doctors , building power plants ,cultivation and construction projects .

    But Ethiopia always find a reason to withdraw ,they think the water is theirs and they are giving it as a gift to Sudan and Egypt .

    But 150 million people are depending on this water and the Egypt-Sudan requests are simple , we don't want a decrease in the flowing water .Sudan also complained them in the security council .

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    Post  JohninMK on Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:22 pm

    The problem is caused in part by the reduced rate of flow out of Lake Victoria caused by an explosion of water hyacinth plants blocking the outflows of this, a major source of Nile water. There is a huge volume of water trapped there.

    Unblocking it seems to beyond the locals abilities. If the Egyptians put some effort into helping cure that problem the flow would increase allowing the new dam to be filled as planned without seriously impacting the flow downstream of it.

    https://www.kahawatungu.com/water-hyacinth-lake-victoria-rusts/
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:37 am

    The technical studies should be done by a common engineering committee between the three countries to evaluate the geologic, hydraulic, and seismic design criteria and design criteria . Sudanese life also matters .

    How can they expect all three countries to be fair.

    This is being done for the benefit of Ethiopians... they are paying for the dam to be built... perhaps if egypt and the sudan want a say in how it is used and how strong it is built they should offer to contribute to the cost of building the dam?

    But Ethiopia always find a reason to withdraw ,they think the water is theirs and they are giving it as a gift to Sudan and Egypt .

    Wouldn't be the first country to think like that... if they were rich and powerful they would get away with it...

    But 150 million people are depending on this water and the Egypt-Sudan requests are simple , we don't want a decrease in the flowing water .Sudan also complained them in the security council .

    Why don't you build your own extra dams... it would allow you more control of the flow of water... keep the dam closest to your neighbour very low so if there is a flooding incident you just get a new lake... having extra dams would allow you to control the flow of water through your country even when not much is coming... after the first flood of heavy rain you can fill up most of your dams so you have lake reserves you can use when it is dry so you don't have to rely on new water coming down the river...

    The problem is caused in part by the reduced rate of flow out of Lake Victoria caused by an explosion of water hyacinth plants blocking the outflows of this, a major source of Nile water. There is a huge volume of water trapped there.

    That shit is going to break off and float down river anyway so even if it isn't a problem now in Egyptian or Sudanese dams it will be... and you are going to have to deal with it at some stage... better now...
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    Post  JohninMK on Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:08 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    That shit is going to break off and float down river anyway so even if it isn't a problem now in Egyptian or Sudanese dams it will be... and you are going to have to deal with it at some stage... better now...
    It appears not, or at least not in a big way. The plants are blocking the turbine tunnels and overflow sluices so that Lake Victoria is 13m above normal, causing problems all the way round it, flooding etc. Wouldn't have happened when there was a colonial power in charge Very Happy
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    Post  George1 on Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:45 pm

    mnztr wrote:https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2017/11/20/Sudan-recieves-Russian-fighters-ahead-of-Bashir-s-first-visit-to-Moscow.html


    Wow I had no idea Sudan purchased SU-35's. Anyone know what quantity? There is a large water dispute going on between Egypt, Sudan and Ethopia and I guess Sudan wants to ensure Egypt does not launch an air strike across its territory to blow up the Ethopian dam potentially causing a massive flood in Sudan... Perhap Russia agreed to do this as they want to prevent a war and assist with the issue?

    its obviously a mistaken article. The only jets they purchased in last decade were su-24 fencers from Belarus in 2013-16
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:28 am

    Wouldn't have happened when there was a colonial power in charge

    Didn't Aristide say it was a colonial power that introduced the weed because they thought it looked pretty?

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    Post  ahmedfire on Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:46 am

    This is being done for the benefit of Ethiopians... they are paying for the dam to be built... perhaps if egypt and the sudan want a say in how it is used and how strong it is built they should offer to contribute to the cost of building the dam?

    Egypt has offered to contribute in the construction of the dam .

    Also Egyptian companies are building a huge dam with cost of US$2.9 billion in Tanzania (part of the nile river is coming from there) .


    Wouldn't be the first country to think like that... if they were rich and powerful they would get away with it...

    Being rich and powerful don't give you the right to neglect the others even if this could hurt them .

    Turkey has built a dam which affected heavily the agriculture in Iraq ,around 70% of Iraq’s water supplies flow from neighboring countries, especially via the Tigris and Euphrates rivers which run through Turkey.

    Why don't you build your own extra dams... it would allow you more control of the flow of water... keep the dam closest to your neighbour very low so if there is a flooding incident you just get a new lake... having extra dams would allow you to control the flow of water through your country even when not much is coming... after the first flood of heavy rain you can fill up most of your dams so you have lake reserves you can use when it is dry so you don't have to rely on new water coming down the river...

    The high dam could reserve about 162 BCM of water and its surface area is around 6500 km2 ,also there is Toshka Project that can take the excess water behind the dam to the Toshka depression which can reserve 50 BCM .





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