GunshipDemocracy wrote:walle83 wrote: I think u r confusing the US with Russia when it comes to sharing technology
3 examples please confirming your opinion so can better understand your thought behind this rhetorical figure. lik esanctions? blocking source code to partners who co-build f-35?
As for the European countries not developing 5th generation aircrafts, well as it stand the Typhoon, Rafale and Gripen E is enough to meet any russian threat now or in the near future. Than add the F-35 to this.
And why and Russia is going to attack EU its biggest (so far soon will be Asia) trading partner? develop please your ideas. I am really interested in this topic. Especially Germany who is a natural ally ln Russia in Geopolitics. France to lesser extent too.
Or perhaps Serbia was threat?! so peace doves from peaceful west were bombing mostly of civilian population and infrastructure?
You read too much wiki
F-35 troubles: Pentagon refuses to accept new aircraft as its makes problem report ‘Top Secret’
F-35 not finished? What I read the F-35 is in use and is attacking with great success down in Israel. Accourding to wikipedia about 300 planes has so far been built.
and Israeli propaganda outlets They never flew close to Damascus as could be hit by Pantsirs (Assad's ones)
BTW I've even saw once in supermarket "traditional Israeli sup Krupnick" . Especially that very often stock is based on pork
Krupnik is a thick Polish soup made from vegetable or meat broth, containing potatoes and barley groats (kasza jęczmienna, archaically called krupy - hence the name)
I have no idea how the european economies are standing against the Russian, u brought that up not me. I do know that the total Russian economy is very small if u compare it to countries in europe. Like twice the size of the Italian or something?
is ti more less size of German one (even with Us data) - check PPP in wiki . Russian economy is developing on more less same pace as German now. Despite US waging economical war against Russia (as US and their serfs are to scared to attack with military component) . I count thet with current reforms economy goes faster in next 2-3 years.
But most important parameter here is a military budget. This one is planned till 2027 and nothing is gonna be cut. Neither Armata nor Su-57 progammes were cancelled.
Approach towards buying new stuff in Russia is different from US though. In US they first produce pay then fix. In Russia they seem to buy after growing pains are fixed. Thus perhaps your opinion is based on lack of understanding how does it works in Russia?
I wonder how does it relate to your claims that Russia economy "now" is poor and Russia is cancelling programmes?
As for numbers of F-35 orderd by the UK, i have no idea, again im talking about Russia. Although i would not be suprised, the UK has a history of changing its military priorites ovre and over again.
so in Russia you call this cancelling to null and in UK change in priorities? am I getting it right?
Have a nice day!
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Everything to get lost in deep conversations right. Stick to the subject in hand.
The fact is that Russia has just announched that it will not produce, exept in very small test series (probably not to loose face totaly), 2 of its most prestigious new generation military hardware. And, again, the reason they themself has given for this is........its to expensive. Even after the production cost for each tank has dropped?!
If this isnt becouse of money issues, then please explain the real reason for this?