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    [Official] Armata Discussion thread #1

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    Post  Austin Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:25 am

    More Details on Armata in this interview

    Platform Armata and other samples of armored vehicles


    Vyacheslav Halitov Vyacheslav Halitov deputy. Director of NPK "Uralvagonzavod" for special equipment

    http://www.echo.msk.ru/programs/arsenal/1480668-echo/
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    Post  collegeboy16 Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:55 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Interesting, according to Gurkhan T-95's radar had a range of 10km, so in all likeliness T-14 Armata should at least have equal range.

    http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2015/01/14-21.html
    10km range top attack GL-ATGM would be nice, shoot them up like arty, use midcourse adjustment from the armata direct fire atgm laser guider and watch as tanks go boom.

    ainet fused HE-F shells could already reach 12km, but only as indirect fire.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:37 am

    10km is comparable to the ground radars like Fara-1 and Credo-1 used for detecting moving and stationary ground targets like people and armour and light vehicles.

    The MT-10 towed anti tank gun can use a radar aiming system too.
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    Post  TR1 Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:25 pm

    OMG

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    Post  Werewolf Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:15 pm

    So it's a obj.195, why here?
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    Post  TR1 Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:35 pm

    Couldn't find a better thread, and wanted to post it ASAP.
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    Post  Werewolf Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:37 pm

    TR1 wrote:Couldn't find a better thread, and wanted to post it ASAP.

    Nice pic but still covered turret like any other foto we have seen.
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    Post  TR1 Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:38 pm

    APS tubes are visible however.

    Plus, biggest pic of hull side to date. Hoping these Dembel idiots took more.
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    Post  Werewolf Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:42 pm

    Seams higher than it probably is.
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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:54 pm

    The rag over the turret does not imply it is some super duper, super secret design. It likely has a bunch of test apparatus on it
    that they do not want seen.

    Don't worry Armata will not have the profile of a two story building.
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    Post  Zivo Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:03 am

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    That thing, it looks like it could be a independently elevated autocannon. If the barrel was on the far side of it, it would be just about vertically aligned with the main gun. It kind of looks like the crew accidentally depressed the autocannon while the tarp was still on, pulling it up a bit from its original position.

    195 looks less like a prototype and more like a production war machine, I guess it really was ready for service a few years back.

    Anyone recall what 195's APS was designated? It couldn't be Afghanistan could it?
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    Post  Werewolf Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:13 am

    Probably an AGS-17.
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    Post  Mike E Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:14 am

    TBH it looks long... 7 road-wheels?
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    Post  Werewolf Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:17 am

    Mike E wrote:TBH it looks long... 7 road-wheels?

    No carousel autoloader so it must be longer.
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    Post  Mike E Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:19 am

    Werewolf wrote:
    Mike E wrote:TBH it looks long... 7 road-wheels?

    No carousel autoloader so it must be longer.
    How does an carousel auto-loader affect the length of the hull?
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    Post  Zivo Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:33 am

    Werewolf wrote:Probably an AGS-17.

    It looks way to large to be an AGS-17.

    Mike E wrote:TBH it looks long... 7 road-wheels?

    Look at the size of the engine compartment... that's why it has the extra set of wheels.
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    Post  Werewolf Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:41 am

    How does an carousel auto-loader affect the length of the hull?
    Having a carousel autoloader reduces the length of the turret or the hull, if you have Leclerc like autoloader the turret or/and hull needs to have more space, the same is expected of Armata to haver longer turret due autoloader, maybe longer hull.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:52 am

    Plus, biggest pic of hull side to date. Hoping these Dembel idiots took more.

    They supply us with this photo and you call these angels idiots?

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    Don't worry Armata will not have the profile of a two story building.

    Don't expect a tiny low profile turret for most Armata vehicles... remember at the very least it will have lots of cameras up high to provide the crew down in the hull good all round observation, and lots of stuff is fitted to the turret for all sorts of reasons, perhaps including an independently aimed and fired 30mm cannon.

    Anyone recall what 195's APS was designated? It couldn't be Afghanistan could it?

    From the look of it it is based on Drozd and would be at least Drozd 2 or 3.

    Drozd was tested in Afghanistan, but only covered the front quarter and was found to be effective in Afghanistn. Drozd 2 expanded the coverage of the rockets to make it effective to 360 degrees with smaller rocket tubes... this might use larger tubes over the front area and smaller tubes covering the rear and sides.

    Would not likely be effective against APFSDS rounds so is likely not Afghanistan.

    TBH it looks long... 7 road-wheels?

    Extra vehicle length allows a steeper glacis plate with better protection features.

    BTW my vote for the pic TR-1 thanks for posting. Smile
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    Post  TR1 Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:43 am

    One big tank:

    http://se.uploads.ru/8S23G.jpg
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    Post  Stealthflanker Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:10 am

    TR1 wrote:One big tank:

    http://se.uploads.ru/8S23G.jpg

    hmm perhaps 2.5 m or more. very tall indeed.
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    Post  collegeboy16 Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:48 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    Mike E wrote:TBH it looks long... 7 road-wheels?

    No carousel autoloader so it must be longer.
    afaik it uses a vertical (shell and propellant stub) carousel AL.

    TR1 wrote:One big tank:

    http://se.uploads.ru/8S23G.jpg
    its one hell of a lean mean mofo- an abrams looks like a tub of lard in comparison.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:14 pm

    collegeboy16 wrote:
    TR1 wrote:One big tank:

    http://se.uploads.ru/8S23G.jpg
    its one hell of a lean mean mofo- an abrams looks like a tub of lard in comparison.

    I really hope the T-14 Armata will have a hydraulic system that allows it to depress it's height, allowing more flexibility for tactical airlifts as well as allowing it to lower it's profile in hostile environments.
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    Post  Viktor Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:39 pm

    Another great article from rg.ru  Very Happy

    LINK

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    Several important points from the article

    However, it is no secret that the one machine that created now and which will carry the name of the digital T-14, a slightly lighter version of the experimental object 195. In essence it is the same thing.

    By the way, it is possible, even at the parade in honor of the 70th anniversary of the Victory, many elements of the tank shut false panels, which is justified. The machine has not yet passed military trials and the final shape of the tower is not formed. Most likely, the chassis and body kit will be different.

    crew of three people located in bronekapsuly at the front of the chassis.

    According to experts, the front projection has a multilayer composite armor protection, can withstand direct hits any type of today's shells - piercing and cumulative.

    n addition, the forward hemisphere is covered by active defense capable to knock on the approach and any type of anti-tank weapons, including piercing projectiles that was previously thought impossible in principle.

    Domestic diesel, and rather unusual design. The stated capacity - not less than 1500 hp

    Combat information management system built on modern digital technology and solid element base of domestic production.

    Body punctuated with video cameras. If required, the zoom is activated, and a distant object can be considered in detail. There is a possibility of thermal imaging and infrared vision in all weather conditions, day and night.



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    Post  collegeboy16 Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:45 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    I really hope the T-14 Armata will have a hydraulic system that allows it to depress it's height, allowing more flexibility for tactical airlifts as well as allowing it to lower it's profile in hostile environments.
    most probably not- little real advantage over traditional torsion bar for relatively large expense, would be first to be cut when trying to make it cheaper.
    even if its 2.5 m tall, its still way below 3.3m which is il-476 cargo bay height.
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    Post  Werewolf Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:58 pm

    48 t that is less than expected, but with the change of chassis and turret that will change.

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