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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #9

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    Post  ultron 12/05/16, 04:31 am

    Karl Haushofer wrote:It Hitlery wins yes. If Trump, who knows.

    They are both extremely hostile to Russia. They are war hawks. Faves of Wall Street oligarchs.
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    Post  ultron 12/05/16, 04:44 am

    SAA use L-39 to battle IS in eastern Homs. Why don't Russia deliver Yak-130 SAA ordered before 2011?

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    Post  calm 12/05/16, 05:43 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Lot of anger there. It doesn't make any sense. So what's going to happen if every one leaves the Syrian boat?


    If all this stay as it is, no big offensives and involvement of Russia like before, things is going to stay like this for a couple more years.
    After that conflict ain't gonna end, we're going to watch shootings and terrorist attacks here and there, some kind of pat position for both sides.


    And the big players is going to move to another tabel(country) to continue their game of chess.

    Thats one big IF.

    New president of US is going to be a problem, or not...
    Lots of factors to count on and to draw a right moves.

    For a moment it's really looked like Iran is ready to send thousands of fighters to end battle for Aleppo, buy ceasefire occurred.
    They were dying in offensives and victories, and now they are forced to switch to the defence, and they think that they are dying for nothing.
    Thats their reason for frustration and blaming of Russia.

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    The biggest issue I see with this is that, indeed, the Russians maybe were prematurely hoping that the US would be able to honor its part of the deal.

    There is no such thing as hope in geopolitics, or trust, just a brutal interest.
    Both Russia and US are aware of that, but they are also well aware that some kind of cooperation and exceptions are needed from bouth sides.
    Or we going to have a direct collision, and no one wants that.
    Except maybe Turkey...

    I personally would keep bombing al nusra non stop, in the time of the casefire, and all others that disobeyed ceasefire.
    And ignoring all of this attacks of Nusra and others is the only thing that bothers me.
    Just burn them all in the open fields in front of Khan Tumah, and they will respect ceasefire.
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    Post  sepheronx 12/05/16, 06:08 pm

    Well, if it is as bad as everyone is saying, then eventually Assad will simply tell Russia to leave and Russian gov will have to reflect where they went wrong.
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    Post  calm 12/05/16, 06:24 pm

    ^
    Not possible.
    Russia is staying forever. Very Happy

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    Post  ultron 12/05/16, 07:16 pm

    calm wrote:^
    Not possible.
    Russia is staying forever.   Very Happy


    Hope so. The next US president will be very hostile to Russia and will bomb SAA. I hope Putin is prepared for what is coming next year.
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    Post  arpakola 12/05/16, 07:22 pm

    ultron wrote:SAA use L-39 to battle IS in eastern Homs. Why don't Russia deliver Yak-130 SAA ordered before 2011?


    oh dear .. so many negative votes from the IRANians.. wonder why russia
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    Post  calm 12/05/16, 09:28 pm

    allegedly

    Intense RuAF airstrikes on rebel-held al-Rashideen & Kafrnaha. Pic of RuAF formation spotted over rural Aleppo today

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    Post  KoTeMoRe 12/05/16, 10:04 pm

    Please make let it be real.
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    Post  ultron 12/05/16, 10:11 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Please make let it be real.

    Hopefully but I'm not holding my breath. Putin don't care about terrorists anymore after he signed the peace treaty with Obama.
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    Post  PapaDragon 12/05/16, 11:18 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Please make let it be real.

    I have been noticing some doubtful tones lately in Russian English language media about ceasefire so there might be something here.

    Those local ceasefires had the upside of reducing number of potential hostiles once shooting starts again. Maybe they figured that they accomplished as much as they could with that and now it's time to resume ops?





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    Cooling system, nice! thumbsup

    I was wondering if those tubes might be part of one when I first saw this suit in action. Also noticed odd helmet shape and foggy visor back then. Glad I was right, Russia is bringing the fancy stuff.
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    Post  calm 12/05/16, 11:48 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Please make let it be real.

    Laughing
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    Only this, for now.
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    Post  ultron 13/05/16, 12:26 am

    These an a Vienna Syria meeting on May 17. I do hope Putin does not give in to Obama nagging about ceasefire. Shocked Fingers crossed.
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    Post  Vann7 13/05/16, 01:31 am

    well Pro Syrian facebook pages.. very realiable their sources..
    since 2011 visiting them..

    https://www.facebook.com/syria24english


    Have said that Russian airforce have been doing strikes in Aleppo
    and Idlib heavily in this days.  So the assaults of terrorist in homs seems more like a distraction to keep Russia busy in homs and pull Syrian army from aleppo front , while Turkey invade northen Syria.

    here is claimed by a Syrian owned facebook page that 13 Russian planes are bombing Idlib..
    8 hours ago.. seems there is something big happening in Aleppo and Idlib.
    while Homs is taking the headlines.



    13 ‪#‎RUaf‬ airstrikes today on ‪#‎Nusra‬ linked ‪#‎Terrorists‬ on Abu ad-Duhur Military Airbase ‪#‎Syria24‬



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    Post  ultron 13/05/16, 01:34 am

    9th Russian soldier died in Syria. RIP

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/12/russia-confirms-ninth-soldier-killed-in-syria/
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    Post  ultron 13/05/16, 01:36 am

    Vann7 wrote:well Pro Syrian facebook pages.. very realiable their sources..
    since 2011 visiting them..

    https://www.facebook.com/syria24english


    Have said that Russian airforce have been doing strikes in Aleppo
    and Idlib heavily in this days.  So the assaults of terrorist in homs seems more like a distraction to keep Russia busy in homs and pull Syrian army from aleppo front , while Turkey invade northen Syria.

    Is there any info from the MOD that says they are doing airstrikes? I do hope it is true but so far I only see Syrian air force doing airstrikes.

    There is a report every day of reconciliation, but there is no report of any airstrikes. They used to report how many targets hit and in what locations every day.

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    Post  Vann7 13/05/16, 02:02 am

    ultron wrote:

    Is there any info from the MOD that says they are doing airstrikes? I do hope it is true but so far I only see Syrian air force doing airstrikes.

    There is a report every day of reconciliation, but there is no report of any airstrikes.

    https://twitter.com/mod_russia

    Not that im aware ,cant read Russian.. but Syria 24 facebook site usually is very accurate.
    they get their info from journalist from the front line. or Syrian army .

    about the "new" Russian soldier killed is the same one days ago ,giving the tour to homs?
    is not a new one . They even misspelled his name is Anton Erygin.  but they call him Anton Yerygin. same soldier? or an amazing coincidence?

    Telegraph says this.. about [Anton Yerygin]  

    "He died of his wounds in hospital two days after the attack, the ministry said.

    Seems IRAN copied the same story of telegraph.

    RT says about  [Anton Erygin]

    "The soldier was transported to a hospital where Russian military doctors fought for his life for two days, but he couldn’t be saved,

    Both dyed in homs palmyra. but telegraph claims it was sniped ,while the Russian defense ministry says it was shelled while escorting a group to homs.
    So is either his brother twin or is the same soldier , reported two times by western propaganda
    to create more sensationalism of Russian soldiers dying in the dozens. the Syrian observatory propaganda , even claims 2 or 3 "missing soldiers" but no names given of who they are, so be
    careful with that charlatan. The "Syrian Observatory of human rights" is a pro terrorist disinformation center ,a One Man Organization that live in london ,and all his information comes from what the british government tells him to say. he have been since 2011 spreading lies.
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    Post  d_taddei2 13/05/16, 05:52 am

    i personally think this was a total waste Tu-160 drops 10 bombs and only kills 20 terrorists and injures an Emir, hardly worth it, if they were intent on sending a Tu-160 they might as well have dropped a FOAB at least that way they would have killed at least 200 rather than 20. lol, Tochka and Frog-7 have killed more in one missile strike than these 10 bombs, would be cheaper to use tocka than Tu-160 with 10 bombs

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/jabhat-al-nusra-devastated-massive-russian-airstrike-abu-duhur-airbase/

    During the afternoon, a Russian strategic long-range warplane dropped a total of 10 bombs on Abu Duhur Airbase in what was said to have caused massive explosions. According to information obtained by al-Masdar, this specific air raid was conducted by a Tupolev Tu-160 which can carry up to 20,000 kg of explosives. The Tu-160 was flanked by two Sukhoj Su-35 fighter jets which provided cover for the large strategic bomber. In the aftermath, at least 20 Jabhat al-Nusra militants were killed; 3 of whom were platoon commanders. Furthermore, Abu Hajer – prominent al-Nusra Emir of the Syrian steppe (al-Badia) – was reportedly critically injured in the Russian bomber attack.

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    Post  crod 13/05/16, 10:12 am

    Christ I hope Vlad and the boys know what's going on. this ceasefire shite has cost dearly.

    RIP to the fallen soldier also.
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    Post  Vann7 13/05/16, 10:58 am

    d_taddei2 wrote:i personally think this was a total waste Tu-160 drops 10 bombs and only kills 20 terrorists and injures an Emir, hardly worth it, if they were intent on sending a Tu-160 they might as well have dropped a FOAB at least that way they would have killed at least 200 rather than 20. lol, Tochka and Frog-7 have killed more in one missile strike than these 10 bombs, would be cheaper to use tocka than Tu-160 with 10 bombs



    Tu-160 can carry nuclear weapons.. and Turkey army is deployed meters from Syria border.
    with Erdogan claiming is soon to do a major invasion on Syria to "fight terror". So connect the dots. The presence of nuclear bombers have a double purpose , as a deterrent to Turkey and to bomb terrorist. So nuclear bombers bombing 30 to 50km away of Turkey border , can be used
    as a deterrence to Erdogan and its army , if invade Syria.
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    Post  Dima 13/05/16, 08:25 pm

    Aldin Abazović ‏@Ald_Aba 2 hours ago
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    Post  Dima 13/05/16, 08:39 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:i personally think this was a total waste Tu-160 drops 10 bombs and only kills 20 terrorists and injures an Emir, hardly worth it, if they were intent on sending a Tu-160 they might as well have dropped a FOAB at least that way they would have killed at least 200 rather than 20. lol, Tochka and Frog-7 have killed more in one missile strike than these 10 bombs, would be cheaper to use tocka than Tu-160 with 10 bombs
    We don't know the requirements so its hard to say what they carried and why they choose Tu-160s. But from the reports, considering the killed were over a dozen commanders, it was probably a strike on area where commanders were carrying out a secret meeting?

    If the UK govt mouthpiece SOHR is claiming 20 killed on their side, we can safely assume the figure is more and if they are claiming 50 civilians dead we can safely assume a small fraction of it to be true or those killed are mainly terrorists.

    I completely agree about the FOAB and would love to see it being employed. With a shit clearing radius of 300meters, it would be a good asset to make the way ahead.
    Btw, how many FOABs can be carried by the Tu-160 in its bay?

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    Post  magnumcromagnon 13/05/16, 09:34 pm

    crod wrote:Christ I hope Vlad and the boys know what's going on. this ceasefire shite has cost dearly.

    RIP to the fallen soldier also.

    Yes, RIP.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon 13/05/16, 09:40 pm

    Listen I'm not on the Ultron/Flagshipvictory's sort of narcotics...but can we at least agree that Putin's policy of 'put-all-my-eggs-in-a-ceasefire-basket' over the past 2 years were absolute failures? If it weren't for MINSK 1/2, NAF would likely of liberated Odessa and connecting Transnistria, denying Ukrappy's any naval access. Similarly Putin waited 4 years to give any serious help via PGM strikes, and had he started in 2011 the bearded goatf*ckers would of never taken over so much territory, ultimately making the job for VKS much easier. The current ceasefire in Syria is a proven failure, and now their shouldn't be anymore ceasefires enabled until after Raqqa has been flattened with at least 6 FOAB's.

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    Post  Guest 13/05/16, 10:04 pm

    Dima wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:i personally think this was a total waste Tu-160 drops 10 bombs and only kills 20 terrorists and injures an Emir, hardly worth it, if they were intent on sending a Tu-160 they might as well have dropped a FOAB at least that way they would have killed at least 200 rather than 20. lol, Tochka and Frog-7 have killed more in one missile strike than these 10 bombs, would be cheaper to use tocka than Tu-160 with 10 bombs
    We don't know the requirements so its hard to say what they carried and why they choose Tu-160s. But from the reports, considering the killed were over a dozen commanders, it was probably a strike on area where commanders were carrying out a secret meeting?

    If the UK govt mouthpiece SOHR is claiming 20 killed on their side, we can safely assume the figure is more and if they are claiming 50 civilians dead we can safely assume a small fraction of it to be true or those killed are mainly terrorists.

    I completely agree about the FOAB and would love to see it being employed. With a shit clearing radius of 300meters, it would be a good asset to make the way ahead.
    Btw, how many FOABs can be carried by the Tu-160 in its bay?


    Number of people killed is not always showing the effect of the bombing. They probably destroyed important command facility or training center which is not manned by many people. Some of the most important facilities in armed forces have very little personel.

    And "10 bombs" means very little.

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