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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #8

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    Post  sepheronx Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:07 am

    I still don't get it, cause it really isn't working, now has it?  I mean, if it was working, then Putin's popularity would have dropped considerably, but it hasn't.  It is roughly same as it was last years.  And it surely has not increased the popularity of the other groups either as now Yobloko party has to merge with Paranas party just to gain additional voter base when their voter base was roughly what? 4% between the two of them?  This really isn't helping them, now has it?  Has it created any dissent in Russia?  I don't see any protests by people demanding Russia to pull out of Syria.  Yet, we see people lambasting US all the time within their own country, without the media hype behind it.

    So what exactly is it doing?  Nothing.  Why are they continuing this effort?  Do they not realize that it is just wasted energy?  I mean, I am sitting here, thinking logically and not using lousy terms here, and I am simply not getting it.  We can call them NATZO and whatever, but that is beside the point.  We don't even have to point it out or go into hysteria.  All we have to do is actually just sit back and laugh cause all they are doing is making themselves less and less credible and sound absolutely ridiculous.

    Like I said, it contradicts them.  Russia posts about their dead.  They mentioned the dead.  I highly doubt much coverage would have been available about the soldier who committed suicide.  But they mentioned that anyway.  So that alone contradicts them and most Russians seem to be quite knowledgeable or at least capable of critical thinking, and they can easily tell the contradiction in the articles themselves. I mean, Russia besides the use of RT and Sputnik, doesn't really create these same allegations to create dissent in USA. Instead, USA does it to themselves and created people such as Snowden as an example. whom was a powerful blow to US. Or even Wiki Leaks itself which really goes after US politics. Funny too cause it didn't need Russia or its media to create dissidents within the USA. So I mean, lets be real here.

    What I think this news is all for, is for the locals here in Canada or the west in general.  Keep telling them stories about how poorly Russians are operating in hopes people forget about all of our dead in pointless conflicts like Afghanistan as an example.

    as well, the NGO comment cant work anymore, as the Russians are banning them left and right, and really are going after the people obtaining money from them.  We may see prior to elections possible banning any parties from participating that have obtained foreign money.  I think it was LDPR or Fair Russia party that has pushed the idea.
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    Post  OminousSpudd Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:17 am

    Their drive to alienate Russia has actually has had/is having the complete opposite effect. See the explosive growth of Youtube channels such as SouthFront, StormCloudsGathering, and many, many other indie news channels that at worst, attempt to be marginally neutral and at best are bang on the money. Not only that but those who have a change in perspective can be transformed into genuinely furious Russophiles. What is that saying about "No force like that of the newly converted..."?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:00 am

    There is a picture of CasEvac in Latakia and crude shrapnel extracted from the body (allegedly). Once again I don't buy the Tactical team killed in Qasr al Hayr, because where it is (Near Al Suknah way beyond Palmyra), lack of body. In the mean time, even the equipment they shown in video, doesn't have anything more than a very short range radio, no designator and no telemetre or any other instrument to accurately find and relay coordinates from targets except the IWT Charon, which has to be recharged about every 72 hours.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:29 am

    Long Reuters article barking up the wrong tree. If their journalist thinks the Syrian Express has not slowed down he must be looking in the wrong place for information. These are first paras. Oh, and Yauza is not an icebreaker, just an ice capable small cargo ship.

    When Vladimir Putin announced the withdrawal of most of Russia's military contingent from Syria there was an expectation that the Yauza, a Russian naval icebreaker and one of the mission's main supply vessels, would return home to its Arctic Ocean port.

    Instead, three days after Putin's March 14 declaration, the Yauza, part of the "Syrian Express", the nickname given to the ships that have kept Russian forces supplied, left the Russian Black Sea port of Novorossiysk for Tartous, Russia's naval facility in Syria. Whatever it was carrying was heavy; it sat so low in the water that its load line was barely visible.

    Its movements and those of other Russian ships in the two weeks since Putin's announcement of a partial withdrawal suggest Moscow has in fact shipped more equipment and supplies to Syria than it has brought back in the same period, a Reuters analysis shows. It is not known what the ships were carrying or how much equipment has been flown out in giant cargo planes accompanying returning war planes.

    But the movements - while only a partial snapshot - suggest Russia is working intensively to maintain its military infrastructure in Syria and to supply the Syrian army so that it can scale up again swiftly if need be.


    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-russia-supplies-idUSKCN0WW0DJ
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:37 am

    Александр Прохоренко/Alexander Prokhorenko age 25, spotter that called airstrike on himself

    Rest in peace.
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    Post  Guest Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:20 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:There is a picture of CasEvac in Latakia and crude shrapnel extracted from the body (allegedly). Once again I don't buy the Tactical team killed in Qasr al Hayr, because where it is (Near Al Suknah way beyond Palmyra), lack of body. In the mean time, even the equipment they shown in video, doesn't have anything more than a very short range radio, no designator and no telemetre or any other instrument to accurately find and relay coordinates from targets except the IWT Charon, which has to be recharged about every 72 hours.

    "Prokhorenko enlisted in the Military Academy of Air Defence of the Armed Forces of Russian Federation immediately after leaving school." - If he graduated here, than it sort of makes sense that he was spotter
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    Post  Dima Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:50 pm

    Compare the US and Russian aid! On USAID, we only see big US promo even if the contents inside are bought off from 3rd world countries at dirt cheap prices.

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    Beautiful: Russian aid reaches East #Aleppo families after they were liberated from #ISIS last month
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    Post  Dima Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:06 pm

    I would love to see this Turkey caught alive like those TOW operating terrorists

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    Alparslan Celik, Commander who bragged of shooting(and killing) Russian pilot is in Latakia, in a refugee camp.
    https://twitter.com/bm27_uragan/status/714909920085295105
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    Post  Dima Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:20 pm

    A nice Su-24 lineup
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    What say??
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    Russian Defense Ministry to buy 10,000 medals for soldiers that participated in Syria
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    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-military-orders-10000-medals-for-soldiers-in-syria/ar-BBr2844

    Will that give us an idea of how many Russian servicemen/women were deployed in Syria and how many more they intend to deploy?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:45 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:There is a picture of CasEvac in Latakia and crude shrapnel extracted from the body (allegedly). Once again I don't buy the Tactical team killed in Qasr al Hayr, because where it is (Near Al Suknah way beyond Palmyra), lack of body. In the mean time, even the equipment they shown in video, doesn't have anything more than a very short range radio, no designator and no telemetre or any other instrument to accurately find and relay coordinates from targets except the IWT Charon, which has to be recharged about every 72 hours.

    "Prokhorenko enlisted in the Military Academy of Air Defence of the Armed Forces of Russian Federation immediately after leaving school." - If he graduated here, than it sort of makes sense that he was spotter

    Not dissing the MO, nor his memory. Just that there is more to his story.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:56 pm

    So the US is arming the SyAA next. lol! My highlight

    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) – The United States has no plans to carry out a joint operation with the Russian military to liberate the Syrian city of Raqqa from the Daesh jihadist group, a US Defense Department official told Sputnik on Wednesday.

    "We are not planning any operations with Russia to jointly liberate Raqqa from Daesh control," the official stated. "In Syria, our focus remains on equipping and enabling local, motivated forces who can take the fight to Daesh."

    The US and Russian forces continue to adhere to the flights de-confliction mechanism in Syria after the cessation of hostilities went into effect in the country, a US Defense Department official said.

    "We also continue to have limited, tactical discussions with Russia about de-conflicting our respective military efforts in Syria — but those are focused on where not to strike and on de-confliction, and we are not planning any joint operations," the official stated.


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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:10 pm

    Dima wrote:...........
    Russian Defense Ministry to buy 10,000 medals for soldiers that participated in Syria

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-military-orders-10000-medals-for-soldiers-in-syria/ar-BBr2844

    Will that give us an idea of how many Russian servicemen/women were deployed in Syria and how many more they intend to deploy?

    Number probably involves all who participated. That would include Navy crews and ground crews in Russia. Also guys in intelligence services and HQ. Logistics also most likely.

    It adds up quickly.
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    Post  NationalRus Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:45 pm

    would be very interested how the spec op managed to get surrounded near palmyra. a fucking dessert.

    he had the best training, had the best technological equipment everything state of the art 10 times better then the best IS "elite" troops have and how the fuck he operated alone? even the minimum spotter group consists always at least of 2.

    and if he really called a strike upon himself how did all of his top of the end equipment didnt get a scratch... doesnt make sense, looks like he died in combat or shot himself to avoid capture
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:55 pm

    NationalRus wrote:would be very interested how the spec op managed to get surrounded near palmyra. a fucking dessert.

    he had the best training, had the best technological equipment everything state of the art 10 times better then the best IS "elite" troops have and how the fuck he operated alone? even the minimum spotter group consists always at least of 2.

    and if he really called a strike upon himself how did all of his top of the end equipment didnt get a scratch... doesnt make sense, looks like he died in combat or shot himself to avoid capture

    That's because it wasn't in Tadmor, but near as suykahna. And basically they were " behind enemy lines " He died his gun in hand, and probably was wounded during contact. Best training didn't help multiple Seal/Delta/SAS get blown and shot to bits. It's not some vidéo game. Shit happens.
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    Post  NationalRus Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:05 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    NationalRus wrote:would be very interested how the spec op managed to get surrounded near palmyra. a fucking dessert.

    he had the best training, had the best technological equipment everything state of the art 10 times better then the best IS "elite" troops have and how the fuck he operated alone? even the minimum spotter group consists always at least of 2.

    and if he really called a strike upon himself how did all of his top of the end equipment didnt get a scratch... doesnt make sense, looks like he died in combat or shot himself to avoid capture

    That's because it wasn't in Tadmor, but near as suykahna. And basically they were " behind enemy lines " He died his gun in hand, and probably was wounded during contact. Best training didn't help multiple Seal/Delta/SAS get blown and shot to bits. It's not some vidéo game. Shit happens.

    no shit hombre

    my current knowledge of this incident is it was around palmyra, and that he was alone and got spotted by these caveman and surrounded. after i saw his gear in combination with "airstrike" on himself it was clear the story was bullshit
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:10 pm

    NationalRus wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    NationalRus wrote:would be very interested how the spec op managed to get surrounded near palmyra. a fucking dessert.

    he had the best training, had the best technological equipment everything state of the art 10 times better then the best IS "elite" troops have and how the fuck he operated alone? even the minimum spotter group consists always at least of 2.

    and if he really called a strike upon himself how did all of his top of the end equipment didnt get a scratch... doesnt make sense, looks like he died in combat or shot himself to avoid capture

    That's because it wasn't in Tadmor, but near as suykahna. And basically they were " behind enemy lines " He died his gun in hand, and probably was wounded during contact. Best training didn't help multiple Seal/Delta/SAS get blown and shot to bits. It's not some vidéo game. Shit happens.

    no shit hombre

    my current knowledge of this incident is it was around palmyra, and that he was alone and got spotted by these caveman and surrounded. after i saw his gear in combination with "airstrike" on himself it was clear the story was bullshit

    Isis says it wasn't in Palmyra, but way behind it. I'm sorry I'm on my Smartphone, so I can't convey my sarcasm. But this is something absolutely puzzling if ISIS is to be believed. Means Russians have gone back to their Afghan ways. Anyway Rip.
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    Post  Vann7 Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:10 am

    Dima wrote:

    Will that give us an idea of how many Russian servicemen/women were deployed in Syria and how many more they intend to deploy?

    Rotation ^^

    Remember that Russia is not only helping Syria in their war, but is also training their
    military too.  So every 2 or 3 months Russia could be rotating their personnel. I saw a video
    of pilots who returned to Russia way beyond the so called cease of fire. It makes sense
    that Russia will rotate its military in Syria to make sure as much as possible military gets
    trained.  So my guess is , 2,000 military staff at the same time is rotated every couple of months. So 10,000 services man from the period of 2015 to 2016.  but at the same time
    only 2,000.  probably it doesn't include volunteers trainers that are not in the Russian army that are also helping. their medals have to be more in $$ cash. someone like Motorola from Donetsk who released a video ,what he tried to show that was in Syria. The 10,000 medals neither should include the civilian staff that operate in the base ,cooking ,or cleaning ,musicians . etc.
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    Post  sepheronx Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:20 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    NationalRus wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    NationalRus wrote:would be very interested how the spec op managed to get surrounded near palmyra. a fucking dessert.

    he had the best training, had the best technological equipment everything state of the art 10 times better then the best IS "elite" troops have and how the fuck he operated alone? even the minimum spotter group consists always at least of 2.

    and if he really called a strike upon himself how did all of his top of the end equipment didnt get a scratch... doesnt make sense, looks like he died in combat or shot himself to avoid capture

    That's because it wasn't in Tadmor, but near as suykahna. And basically they were " behind enemy lines " He died his gun in hand, and probably was wounded during contact. Best training didn't help multiple Seal/Delta/SAS get blown and shot to bits. It's not some vidéo game. Shit happens.

    no shit hombre

    my current knowledge of this incident is it was around palmyra, and that he was alone and got spotted by these caveman and surrounded. after i saw his gear in combination with "airstrike" on himself it was clear the story was bullshit

    Isis says it wasn't in Palmyra, but way behind it. I'm sorry I'm on my Smartphone, so I can't convey my sarcasm. But this is something absolutely puzzling if ISIS is to be believed. Means Russians have gone back to their Afghan ways. Anyway Rip.

    But then a lack of a body gives a different perspective.  Cause we all know how the terrorist scumbags love to tout a body around.  We don't even know if the gear belongs to the guy anyway either.  Lets face facts here, it is claimed that 6 or 7 is dead.  We know 1 was suicide, 1 pilot down thanks to Turdkey, 1 Marine dead thanks to Turdkey's hooligans, 1 was dead from mortar fire, and then?  That comes down to 4.  The other 2? Those ISIS assholes love to dance around like the chimps they are with images of dead soldiers, especially if they are Russian.
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    Post  kvs Thu Mar 31, 2016 3:50 am

    ult wrote:
    Militarov wrote:These shots made with boiled potato appeared around, claiming its Iskander in Syria (Latakia?):


    My old SonyErricsson K750i would do better....

    Yes, it is Latakia. It's from this video.

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    The only reason to have this system in Syria is to send Erdo-turd a signal. Any attempt to invade Syria and try to attack
    Russian units can be met with a tactical nuke strike. The possibility of there being nuclear warheads in the theater is likely
    extremely high. I just don't see conventional warheads having much deterrence effect. The S-400 system is a different
    game altogether.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:13 am

    kvs wrote:
    ult wrote:
    Militarov wrote:These shots made with boiled potato appeared around, claiming its Iskander in Syria (Latakia?):


    My old SonyErricsson K750i would do better....

    Yes, it is Latakia. It's from this video.

    5:23


    The only reason to have this system in Syria is to send Erdo-turd a signal.   Any attempt to invade Syria and try to attack
    Russian units can be met with a tactical nuke strike.    The possibility of there being nuclear warheads in the theater is likely
    extremely high.   I just don't see conventional warheads having much deterrence effect.   The S-400 system is a different
    game altogether.  

    More likely conventional warheads, and Iskander-M's presence is probably their to take out any of the Patriot Batteries under Turkish control (if Turdogan feels hungry for neckties, preferably a Colombian necktie), giving little resistance to various kinds of PGM's strikes.
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:34 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    ult wrote:
    Militarov wrote:These shots made with boiled potato appeared around, claiming its Iskander in Syria (Latakia?):


    My old SonyErricsson K750i would do better....

    Yes, it is Latakia. It's from this video.

    5:23

    The only reason to have this system in Syria is to send Erdo-turd a signal.   Any attempt to invade Syria and try to attack
    Russian units can be met with a tactical nuke strike.    The possibility of there being nuclear warheads in the theater is likely
    extremely high.   I just don't see conventional warheads having much deterrence effect.   The S-400 system is a different
    game altogether.  

    More likely conventional warheads, and Iskander-M's presence is probably their to take out any of the Patriot Batteries under Turkish control (if Turdogan feels hungry for neckties, preferably a Colombian necktie), giving little resistance to various kinds of PGM's strikes.
    Agree on the warheads but not the potential target. In the event of the Turkish Army crossing the border in force those Iskanders could be hitting them almost before they passed Syrian passport control Laughing probably much faster and certainly at lower risk than trying to get aircraft there. After that the Kalibres could pile in. Missiles seem to be favourite for area bombardment in these days of very valuable pilots.
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:40 am

    The first group of Russian experts arrived at the Hmeimim airbase in Syria on Thursday to assist demining operations in Palmyra, the Russian Defense Ministry press service said.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The group, equipped with everything necessary for autonomous work, left for Palmyra from the Chkalovsky military airport in the Moscow region.

    "Today, the first part of the consolidated unit of the Russian Armed Forces International Mine Action Center arrived at the Hmeimim airbase in the Syrian Arab Republic to participate in humanitarian demining of the objects of critical infrastructure and the historical part of the ancient city of Palmyra," the press service said in a statement.

    The group also includes dog handlers.

    On Sunday, the Syrian army supported by militia and the Russian Aerospace Forces recaptured the historic city, which had been under control of the Islamic State militant group for about a year.

    Before the retreat, the militants of the terrorist group, which is prohibited in a number of countries, including Russia, had planted a number of bombs and land mines all over Palmyra. The Syrian army has already started demining operations in the liberated city.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160331/1037248699/syria-russia-palmyra-demining.html#ixzz44TKINgI5
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:52 am

    The Commander of the Russian military grouping in Syria gives first interview to “Rossiyskaya Gazeta”.

    http://thesaker.is/the-commander-of-the-russian-military-grouping-in-syria-gives-first-interview/
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:54 am

    Ka-52 in Syria. What are the racks outboard of the rocket pods?

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    Post  Guest Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:58 am

    JohninMK wrote:Ka-52 in Syria. What are the racks outboard of the rocket pods?

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