pretty clear to someone else that more than one post by the same guy after another is strictly considered spam and here we have Ultron spamming 5 times some gibberish, offtopic without waiting for someone else to comment.
He was clearly upset and confused.
He clearly thought Russia was running away, though recent comments from Putin clearly show if they need to go back in with aircraft they can do so within hours but only if they need to. Support for Syria will continue, though it is not Assad only based.
Ultron did nothing and will continue do nothing else but troll this forum and spam with gibberish.
It wasn't gibberish. I understood it. I didn't agree with it, but I understood it clearly enough.
I never mentioned Vann7, even tho he whines quite alot, however he did land a few times not to shabby posts on some things that i aggree on. I have no problem with him, i do not demand ban on him even tho others might not aggree.
So the core of the problem is that you have a problem with Ultron.
I think i have a purpose here to be, Ultron on the other hand aswell now Solncepek are more than obvious trolls.
There are members with good knowledge... you mention a few and there are many more from all over the place including the Crimea and the US and of course our balkan friends, and members from the middle east. They don't need to be Russia strong or Putin strong fanboys, just being from Iraq or Iran or even the US or Crimea means they offer a perspective that is valuable. there are other members who have no idea about many things, or the wrong idea about many things... I, for example, really don't know much about American people... I see their TV shows and movies and see the culture they export and I see the effects of their government on the world, but I really don't know much about Americans themselves... being able to talk to Americans and Iraqis and Iranians and people from Germany and Greece and India and China gives me a different perspective on things... even if it changes my mind or not it is of value to me. Then you get other members who post very rarely and just read and listen... that is a lost skill these days... listening.
At the end of the day the western media produces a lot of propaganda and this is an English language forum where people can come to find out what might be true and what might not be true... some bubbles will be burst, but if you turn away people because they don't already believe what we believe or happen to post a few times in a row because they are agitated then we need some rule changes. Personally I don't think such things do any harm... I was surprised myself when I heard Putin was withdrawing aircraft from Syria and declaring victory and mission completion.
At first I thought he was leaving Assad in the lurch but the more I thought about it... including reading the things Ultron posted, led me to think of what he was doing in a much broader scope and I realised this conflict needs a political solution first because after a military victory Assad will have no reason to negotiate in good faith and the whole damn thing could happen again.
Do you remember ?
1991 - it was USSR, and then Russia, Ukraine, Belorussia etc....
90s - it was Jugoslavia, and then Serbia, Kosovo, Montenegro etc...
2000's - it was Lybia....
2015 - it was Syria, and then Kurdistan, Alewistan etc.
And 2017 - it was the EU...
And in 2018 - it was the US and then California etc etc etc.
Sad, but true Sad
The US and EU are rather more likely to split up than Russia is.
It's mostly about bad management and short-sighted government. Nothing more or less.
Firstly, it was Gorbachev and next Yeltsin.
Now it's Putin.
First of all ignorance is bliss... Gorbachev was never a leader of Russia, just like George Bush never was the governor of california.
And Putin seems to have carried Russia through an economic and political situation that would have crushed any other country on the planet... including Russia in the 1990s.
Nothing more than Gorbachev and Yeltsin.
Putin was always only on defensive.
Gorbachev and Yeltsin had nothing to go on the offensive with.
Putin is rather more respected around the world than Obama ever will be.
15 years of defence - looking back we can see how long were these years.
No change, no alternation of the course.
Always following the world's affairs and development, trying to react and adjust towards them.
There was a time, when USSR did the world's agenda...
15 years of getting Russia ready for the international community, and 15 years well spent... they have been forced to diversify away from EU countries for food and partnerships and that will lead to a much stronger more independent Russia that is less controlled by the west.
The USSR never led the world or dictated its agenda.
In 1991 USSR had 1/6 of the earth area, almost 300 mln. citizens, developed industry and economics, oil, natural gas...and Gorbachev
An economy on the brink of collapse and plenty of citizens that no longer wanted to be a part of the USSR any more... not to mention the conflicts.
Both 1945 and 1991 became periods of rebuilding, but with so much dead weight like the eastern block of europe being cut free Russia has become the most successful and powerful component that resulted in the break up of the Soviet Union.
Even with harsh economic sanctions it continues to grow and improve...
he point is GarryB, you do not do your job at this moment, the two turks that came here on this forum, coincidendel with the shoot down of Su-24, were let go with their hatred and horseshit by you and other mods while this scum insulted russian soldiers who were murdered by terrorists and nothign happened.
Opinions were expressed but bans were imposed when the dead were insulted... am I supposed to just assume they will eventually break the rules and ban them a priori?
If you think I am doing such a crap job then I am happy to take a 50% cut in pay.
One has to die so the rest may live!
I hate to say it but your logic reminds me of Washington... there is a problem so they get out their little black book of countries they don't like and pick a suitable scapegoat. In their case the countries they attacked in retaliation for 11/9 were Afghanistan and Iraq and they are suing Iran. If you follow the bread crumbs however 15 of the terrorists on the planes were Saudi Nationals and of the remainder most spent time training in Saudi Arabia... but this is not about the truth.
In your case you don't like the fact that some people are posting less often than they did and you think it is because Ultron and Solncepek are not banned. It could not possibly be that those who are not posting so much have lives and don't currently have enough time...
I find certain posters annoying too, but that does not mean it is unhealthy for me to hear their views.
Perhaps you should start up a thread for the posters you miss to ask them about why they don't post so much any more. I think such a discussion would be interesting for the Mods and Vlad as well to see what could be done to make the board more attractive to its members... obviously it might take a while to get answers from some users, but some PMs might assist too.
I am very optimistic and positive... I can't help that, so obviously it is good for me to hear some pessimism occasionally to keep perspective.
Garry,
Generally I don't favor banning but Werewolf has valid point and almost everyone might agree to the trolling that happens on a regular basis when important decisions/data point comes. The recent being Russian withdrawal/rotation of forces from Syria. Once that point has been crossed, the trolling has stopped/reduced, now it will restart only at the next point. After all even trolls needs rest.
So why not consider short term vacations like 1 week or a month for trolls during such "peak seasons"?
Not a bad idea Dima, but I would only consider it for extreme cases as it basically amounts to someone getting excited in a discussion and receiving a gagging order to just listen for a period... for some people that might be useful...
I thought Putin said no Russian ground forces in action in Syria.
He means no conventional ground forces.
just like Obama and ground forces in Iraq an Afghanistan (and Syria).
The US attempts to incite civil war in Russia by arming pro America Russian traitors.
Pro American traitors in Russia would be less than 5% of the population would would be ineffectual even if very well armed.
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