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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:31 pm


    Sat pic of Shaayrat airbase for reference.

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    Post  Cyberspec on Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:00 pm

    Short video in link of Mi-24 in Latakia with (I assume) Syrian soldiers cheering in the background

    https://twitter.com/Syria_Protector/status/672395438943768576
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    Post  Guest on Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:18 pm

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ab1_1449177441

    Su-34 strike from Jihadist perspective.
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    Post  JohninMK on Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:22 pm

    Ivan the Colorado wrote:

    Su-34 strike from Jihadist perspective.
    Think I've seen that before, pretty impressive bang, clearly hit 'something'.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:03 pm

    Big Bang definately
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    Post  Guest on Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:27 pm

    "ALEPPO — A Russian military transport aircraft has parachuted tons of military equipment to Democratic Union Party (PYD) forces near Aleppo.

    A statement by the Local Coordination Committees of Syria (LCCS) confirmed that, on Wednesday, a Russian military aircraft dropped five tons of standard arms and ammunition for the PYD forces, north of Aleppo.
    The Russian military support for the Syrian Kurds comes after a Russian warplane was downed by Turkey last week and tensions between Moscow and Ankara escalated in the area. Russian manoeuvres for greater influence in the Syrian civil war by supporting Kurdish players, will anger Ankara greatly. The supplies will support Kurds in their efforts to connect Kobani and Afrin in northern Syria, by taking control of areas around the A’zaz district. Syrian Kurdish parties, supported by both the US and Russia, have proven their effectiveness in the war against Islamic State (IS) and other radical Islamist groups. Turkey accuses the PYD of affiliation with the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), and claims that international military support to Syrian Kurdish parties will be used against Turkey by the PKK."


    Any truth in it, what you think?

    Source: http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/middle-east/246536
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    Post  Guest on Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:35 pm

    Chronology of Russian ship passes though strait last few months:

    из Средиземного моря - from Mediterranean Sea
    в Средиземное море - to Mediterranean Sea



    05.01.15 «Саратов» — в Средиземное море.
    10.01.15 «Ямал» и «Александр Шабалин» — в Средиземное море.
    13.01.15 «Александр Отраковский» — из Средиземного моря.
    19.01.15 «Саратов» — из Средиземного моря.
    21.01.15 «Ямал» и «Александр Шабалин» — из Средиземного моря.
    05.02.15 «Саратов» и «Александр Отраковский» — в Средиземное море.
    07.02.15 «Ямал» и «Александр Шабалин» — в Средиземное море.
    15.02.15 «Новочеркасск» — в Средиземное море.
    17.02.15 «Саратов» и «Александр Отраковский» — из Средиземного моря.
    21.02.15 «Ямал» и «Александр Шабалин» — из Средиземного моря.
    25.02.15 «Новочеркасск» — из Средиземного моря.
    25.02.15 «Азов» и «Александр Отраковский» — в Средиземное море.
    07.03.15 «Азов» и «Александр Отраковский» — из Средиземного моря.
    08.03.15 «Александр Шабалин» и «Новочеркасск» — в Средиземное море.
    17.03.15 «Азов» — в Средиземное море.
    19.03.15 «Александр Шабалин» и «Новочеркасск» — из Средиземного моря.
    24.03.15 «Николай Фильченков» — в Средиземное море.
    29.03.15 «Александр Отраковский» и «Новочеркасск» — в Средиземное море.
    08.04.15 «Александр Отраковский» и «Новочеркасск» — из Средиземного моря.
    17.04.15 «Александр Отраковский» и «Александр Шабалин» — в Средиземное море.
    28.04.15 «Александр Отраковский» и «Александр Шабалин» — из Средиземного моря.
    ??.04.15 «Николай Фильченков» — из Средиземного моря.
    ??.05.15 «Новочеркасск» — в Средиземное море.
    12.05.15 «Азов» и «Новочеркасск» — из Средиземного моря.
    ??.05.15 «Александр Отраковский» и «Александр Шабалин" — в Средиземное море.
    20.05.15 «Азов» и «Новочеркасск» — в Средиземное море.
    23.05.15 «Александр Отраковский» и «Александр Шабалин» — из Средиземного моря.
    26.05.15 «Николай Фильченков» — в Средиземное море.
    30.05.15 «Азов» и «Новочеркасск» — из Средиземного моря.
    01.06.15 «Александр Отраковский» и «Александр Шабалин» — в Средиземное море.
    ??.06.15 «Николай Фильченков» — из Средиземного моря.
    07.06.15 «Королёв» — из Средиземного моря.
    07.06.15 «Новочеркасск» и «Цезарь Куников» — в Средиземное море.
    12.06.15 «Александр Отраковский» — из Средиземного моря.
    16.06.15 «Николай Фильченков» — в Средиземное море.
    18.06.15 «Новочеркасск» и «Цезарь Куников» — из Средиземного моря.
    22.06.15 «Александр Отраковский» и «Королёв» — в Средиземное море.
    24.06.15 «Николай Фильченков» — из Средиземного моря.
    24.06.15 «Цезарь Куников» — в Средиземное море.
    03.07.15 «Александр Отраковский» и «Королёв» — из Средиземного моря.
    ??.07.15 «Николай Фильченков» — в Средиземное море.
    10.07.15 «Королёв» — в Средиземное море.
    15.07.15 «Николай Фильченков» — из Средиземного моря.
    ??.07.15 «Королёв» — из Средиземного моря.
    ??.07.15 «Николай Фильченков» — в Средиземное море.
    29.07.15 «Королёв» — в Средиземное море.
    31.07.15 «Цезарь Куников» — из Средиземного моря.
    07.08.15 «Королёв» и «Николай Фильченков» — из Средиземного моря.
    08.08.15 «Азов» и «Цезарь Куников» — в Средиземное море.
    16.08.15 «Королёв» и «Новочеркасск» — в Средиземное море.
    19.08.15 «Азов» и «Цезарь Куников» — из Средиземного моря.
    20.08.15 «Николай Фильченков» — в Средиземное море.
    ??.08.15 «Королёв» и «Новочеркасск» — из Средиземного моря.
    26.08.15 «Азов» и «Цезарь Куников» — в Средиземное море.
    31.08.15 «Николай Фильченков» — из Средиземного моря.
    03.09.15 «Королёв» и «Новочеркасск» — в Средиземное море.
    07.09.15 «Саратов» — в Средиземное море.
    08.09.15 «КИЛ-158» — в Средиземное море.
    ??.09.15 «Азов» и «Цезарь Куников» — из Средиземного моря.
    10.09.15 «Николай Фильченков» — в Средиземное море.
    ??.09.15 «Королёв» и «Новочеркасск» — из Средиземного моря.
    14.09.15 «Азов» и «Цезарь Куников» — в Средиземное море.
    15.09.15 «Александр Отраковский» — в Средиземное море.
    17.09.15 «Саратов» — из Средиземного моря.
    19.09.15 «КИЛ-158» — из Средиземного моря.
    ??.09.15 «Николай Фильченков» — из Средиземного моря.
    21.09.15 «Новочеркасск» — в Средиземное море.
    22.09.15 «Азов» и «Цезарь Куников» — из Средиземного моря.
    24.09.15 «Александр Отраковский» — из Средиземного моря.
    26.09.15 «Саратов» — в Средиземное море.
    27.09.15 «Николай Фильченков» и «КИЛ-158» — в Средиземное море.
    29.09.15 «Яуза» — из Средиземного моря.
    01.10.15 «Новочеркасск» — из Средиземного моря.
    01.10.15 «Александр Отраковский» и «Королёв» — в Средиземное море.
    03.10.15 «Цезарь Куников» — в Средиземное море.
    06.10.15 «Азов» — в Средиземное море.
    06.10.15 «Саратов» — из Средиземного моря.
    07.10.15 «Николай Фильченков» — из Средиземного моря.
    08.10.15 «Новочеркасск» — в Средиземное море.
    09.10.15 «КИЛ-158» — из Средиземного моря.
    11.10.15 «Александр Отраковский» и «Королёв» — из Средиземного моря.
    14.10.15 «Двиница-50» — в Средиземное море.
    14.10.15 «Цезарь Куников» — из Средиземного моря.
    16.10.15 «Яуза» — в Средиземное море.
    17.10.15 «Саратов» и «Николай Фильченков» — в Средиземное море.
    19.10.15 «КИЛ-158» — в Средиземное море.
    20.10.15 «Ямал» — в Средиземное море.
    21.10.15 «Александр Отраковский» — в Средиземное море.
    22.10.15 «Королёв» — в Средиземное море.
    25.10.15 «Вологда-50» — в Средиземное море.
    27.10.15 «Цезарь Куников» — в Средиземное море.
    27.10.15 «Саратов» и «Николай Фильченков» — из Средиземного моря.
    28.10.15 «Азов» — в Средиземное море.
    29.10.15 «Двиница-50» — из Средиземного моря.
    30.10.15 «Яуза» — из Средиземного моря.
    ??.10.15 «Ямал» — из Средиземного моря.
    31.10.15 «Александр Отраковский» и «Королёв» — из Средиземного моря.
    04.11.15 «Вологда-50» и «Цезарь Куников» — из Средиземного моря.
    05.11.15 «Ямал» — в Средиземное море.
    06.11.15 «Азов» — из Средиземного моря.
    08.11.15 «Николай Фильченков» — в Средиземное море.
    09.11.15 «Королёв» — в Средиземное море.
    13.11.15 «Саратов» — в Средиземное море.
    13.11.15 «Кызыл-60» — из Средиземного моря.
    15.11.15 «Цезарь Куников» — в Средиземное море.
    15.11.15 «Ямал» — из Средиземного моря.
    18.11.15 «Королёв» и «Николай Фильченков» — из Средиземного моря.
    19.11.15 «Яуза» — в Средиземное море.
    20.11.15 «КИЛ-158» — из Средиземного моря.
    21.11.15 «Двиница-50» — в Средиземное море.
    21.11.15 «Саратов» — из Средиземного моря.
    23.11.15 «Ямал» — в Средиземное море.
    25.11.15 «Цезарь Куников» — из Средиземного моря.
    27.11.15 «Вологда-50» — в Средиземное море.
    28.11.15 «Королёв» — в Средиземное море.
    30.11.15 «Яуза» — из Средиземного моря.
    02.12.15 «Саратов» — в Средиземное море.
    02.12.15 «Ямал» — из Средиземного моря.
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    Post  Siempre_Leal on Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:40 pm

    Militarov wrote:"ALEPPO — A Russian military transport aircraft has parachuted tons of military equipment to Democratic Union Party (PYD) forces near Aleppo.

    A statement by the Local Coordination Committees of Syria (LCCS) confirmed that, on Wednesday, a Russian military aircraft dropped five tons of standard arms and ammunition for the PYD forces, north of Aleppo.
    The Russian military support for the Syrian Kurds comes after a Russian warplane was downed by Turkey last week and tensions between Moscow and Ankara escalated in the area. Russian manoeuvres for greater influence in the Syrian civil war by supporting Kurdish players, will anger Ankara greatly. The supplies will support Kurds in their efforts to connect Kobani and Afrin in northern Syria, by taking control of areas around the A’zaz district. Syrian Kurdish parties, supported by both the US and Russia, have proven their effectiveness in the war against Islamic State (IS) and other radical Islamist groups. Turkey accuses the PYD of affiliation with the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), and claims that international military support to Syrian Kurdish parties will be used against Turkey by the PKK."


    Any truth in it, what you think?

    Source: http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/middle-east/246536

    I've checked on LCCS updates on FB, and found nothing regarding this so far.
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    Post  Guest on Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:41 pm

    Siempre_Leal wrote:
    Militarov wrote:"ALEPPO — A Russian military transport aircraft has parachuted tons of military equipment to Democratic Union Party (PYD) forces near Aleppo.

    A statement by the Local Coordination Committees of Syria (LCCS) confirmed that, on Wednesday, a Russian military aircraft dropped five tons of standard arms and ammunition for the PYD forces, north of Aleppo.
    The Russian military support for the Syrian Kurds comes after a Russian warplane was downed by Turkey last week and tensions between Moscow and Ankara escalated in the area. Russian manoeuvres for greater influence in the Syrian civil war by supporting Kurdish players, will anger Ankara greatly. The supplies will support Kurds in their efforts to connect Kobani and Afrin in northern Syria, by taking control of areas around the A’zaz district. Syrian Kurdish parties, supported by both the US and Russia, have proven their effectiveness in the war against Islamic State (IS) and other radical Islamist groups. Turkey accuses the PYD of affiliation with the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), and claims that international military support to Syrian Kurdish parties will be used against Turkey by the PKK."


    Any truth in it, what you think?

    Source: http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/middle-east/246536

    I've checked on LCCS updates on FB, and found nothing regarding this so far.

    Me either, this is only place where i read something like this. Its either fresh info from first hand or total BS.
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    Post  Siempre_Leal on Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:44 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    Siempre_Leal wrote:
    Militarov wrote:"ALEPPO — A Russian military transport aircraft has parachuted tons of military equipment to Democratic Union Party (PYD) forces near Aleppo.

    A statement by the Local Coordination Committees of Syria (LCCS) confirmed that, on Wednesday, a Russian military aircraft dropped five tons of standard arms and ammunition for the PYD forces, north of Aleppo.
    The Russian military support for the Syrian Kurds comes after a Russian warplane was downed by Turkey last week and tensions between Moscow and Ankara escalated in the area. Russian manoeuvres for greater influence in the Syrian civil war by supporting Kurdish players, will anger Ankara greatly. The supplies will support Kurds in their efforts to connect Kobani and Afrin in northern Syria, by taking control of areas around the A’zaz district. Syrian Kurdish parties, supported by both the US and Russia, have proven their effectiveness in the war against Islamic State (IS) and other radical Islamist groups. Turkey accuses the PYD of affiliation with the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), and claims that international military support to Syrian Kurdish parties will be used against Turkey by the PKK."


    Any truth in it, what you think?

    Source: http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/middle-east/246536

    I've checked on LCCS updates on FB, and found nothing regarding this so far.

    Me either, this is only place where i read something like this. Its either fresh info from first hand or total BS.

    There would've been a video of Para-drops, we both know Rebels never miss a chance to record them.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:46 pm

    Militarov wrote:"ALEPPO — A Russian military transport aircraft has parachuted tons of military equipment to Democratic Union Party (PYD) forces near Aleppo.

    A statement by the Local Coordination Committees of Syria (LCCS) confirmed that, on Wednesday, a Russian military aircraft dropped five tons of standard arms and ammunition for the PYD forces, north of Aleppo.
    The Russian military support for the Syrian Kurds comes after a Russian warplane was downed by Turkey last week and tensions between Moscow and Ankara escalated in the area. Russian manoeuvres for greater influence in the Syrian civil war by supporting Kurdish players, will anger Ankara greatly. The supplies will support Kurds in their efforts to connect Kobani and Afrin in northern Syria, by taking control of areas around the A’zaz district. Syrian Kurdish parties, supported by both the US and Russia, have proven their effectiveness in the war against Islamic State (IS) and other radical Islamist groups. Turkey accuses the PYD of affiliation with the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), and claims that international military support to Syrian Kurdish parties will be used against Turkey by the PKK."


    Any truth in it, what you think?

    Source: http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/middle-east/246536

    Why Parachute when you can land in Qamishli? Also 5 tons? Going for a conservative measure, that's about 250 AK's /100 PKM's. Usually Soviet crates of ammo weigh 30kg. They come in two flavours 1400 rounds of m43/880 rounds of 7.62x54R.

    Let's split 20/10 so we have 66 crates of m43 and 34 crates of 7.62x54R which means about 120+ thousand rounds. That's about 300 bands for those PKM's. and rougly 3000+ mags worth of ammo for those AK's. Split in 6, that's 500 complements (so basically) those 5 tons equip a slim battalion. Why not.

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    Post  Siempre_Leal on Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:51 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Militarov wrote:"ALEPPO — A Russian military transport aircraft has parachuted tons of military equipment to Democratic Union Party (PYD) forces near Aleppo.

    A statement by the Local Coordination Committees of Syria (LCCS) confirmed that, on Wednesday, a Russian military aircraft dropped five tons of standard arms and ammunition for the PYD forces, north of Aleppo.
    The Russian military support for the Syrian Kurds comes after a Russian warplane was downed by Turkey last week and tensions between Moscow and Ankara escalated in the area. Russian manoeuvres for greater influence in the Syrian civil war by supporting Kurdish players, will anger Ankara greatly. The supplies will support Kurds in their efforts to connect Kobani and Afrin in northern Syria, by taking control of areas around the A’zaz district. Syrian Kurdish parties, supported by both the US and Russia, have proven their effectiveness in the war against Islamic State (IS) and other radical Islamist groups. Turkey accuses the PYD of affiliation with the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), and claims that international military support to Syrian Kurdish parties will be used against Turkey by the PKK."


    Any truth in it, what you think?

    Source: http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/middle-east/246536

    Why Parachute when you can land in Qamishli? Also 5 tons? Going for a conservative measure, that's about 250 AK's /100 PKM's. Usually Soviet crates of ammo weigh 30kg. They come in two flavours 1400 rounds of m43/880 rounds of 7.62x54R.

    Let's split 20/10 so we have 66 crates of m43 and 34 crates of 7.62x54R which means about 120+ thousand rounds. That's about 300 bands for those PKM's. and rougly 3000+ mags worth of ammo for those AK's. Split in 6, that's 500 complements (so basically) those 5 tons equip a slim battalion.  Why not.


    Parachuting supplies in Afrin canton is the only way, from Qamishli too afrin, aleppo..now thats going to be tough.


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    Post  Guest on Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:54 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Militarov wrote:"ALEPPO — A Russian military transport aircraft has parachuted tons of military equipment to Democratic Union Party (PYD) forces near Aleppo.

    A statement by the Local Coordination Committees of Syria (LCCS) confirmed that, on Wednesday, a Russian military aircraft dropped five tons of standard arms and ammunition for the PYD forces, north of Aleppo.
    The Russian military support for the Syrian Kurds comes after a Russian warplane was downed by Turkey last week and tensions between Moscow and Ankara escalated in the area. Russian manoeuvres for greater influence in the Syrian civil war by supporting Kurdish players, will anger Ankara greatly. The supplies will support Kurds in their efforts to connect Kobani and Afrin in northern Syria, by taking control of areas around the A’zaz district. Syrian Kurdish parties, supported by both the US and Russia, have proven their effectiveness in the war against Islamic State (IS) and other radical Islamist groups. Turkey accuses the PYD of affiliation with the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), and claims that international military support to Syrian Kurdish parties will be used against Turkey by the PKK."


    Any truth in it, what you think?

    Source: http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/middle-east/246536

    Why Parachute when you can land in Qamishli? Also 5 tons? Going for a conservative measure, that's about 250 AK's /100 PKM's. Usually Soviet crates of ammo weigh 30kg. They come in two flavours 1400 rounds of m43/880 rounds of 7.62x54R.

    Let's split 20/10 so we have 66 crates of m43 and 34 crates of 7.62x54R which means about 120+ thousand rounds. That's about 300 bands for those PKM's. and rougly 3000+ mags worth of ammo for those AK's. Split in 6, that's 500 complements (so basically) those 5 tons equip a slim battalion.  Why not.


    Well 5t of ammunition can cover basically 24h needs of a batallion during intense fighting its not much but... if its true at all ofc. Our "operation" standard is 300 service rifle bullets per man per day, for 500men strong batallion.... 150.000.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:59 pm

    Siempre_Leal wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Militarov wrote:"ALEPPO — A Russian military transport aircraft has parachuted tons of military equipment to Democratic Union Party (PYD) forces near Aleppo.

    A statement by the Local Coordination Committees of Syria (LCCS) confirmed that, on Wednesday, a Russian military aircraft dropped five tons of standard arms and ammunition for the PYD forces, north of Aleppo.
    The Russian military support for the Syrian Kurds comes after a Russian warplane was downed by Turkey last week and tensions between Moscow and Ankara escalated in the area. Russian manoeuvres for greater influence in the Syrian civil war by supporting Kurdish players, will anger Ankara greatly. The supplies will support Kurds in their efforts to connect Kobani and Afrin in northern Syria, by taking control of areas around the A’zaz district. Syrian Kurdish parties, supported by both the US and Russia, have proven their effectiveness in the war against Islamic State (IS) and other radical Islamist groups. Turkey accuses the PYD of affiliation with the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), and claims that international military support to Syrian Kurdish parties will be used against Turkey by the PKK."


    Any truth in it, what you think?

    Source: http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/middle-east/246536

    Why Parachute when you can land in Qamishli? Also 5 tons? Going for a conservative measure, that's about 250 AK's /100 PKM's. Usually Soviet crates of ammo weigh 30kg. They come in two flavours 1400 rounds of m43/880 rounds of 7.62x54R.

    Let's split 20/10 so we have 66 crates of m43 and 34 crates of 7.62x54R which means about 120+ thousand rounds. That's about 300 bands for those PKM's. and rougly 3000+ mags worth of ammo for those AK's. Split in 6, that's 500 complements (so basically) those 5 tons equip a slim battalion.  Why not.


    Parachuting supplies in Afrin canton is the only, from Qamishli too afrin, aleppo..now thats going to be tough.

    I understand SL, but 5 tons you can transport by Choppers, you don't need to airdrop anything. If It's about Afrin and the Russians done it, then one can even risk a land trail from Aleppo self. You land them in Qamishli and let the Kurds dispatch them if you don't want to show someone in Turkey you're going to mess around with him.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:03 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Militarov wrote:"ALEPPO — A Russian military transport aircraft has parachuted tons of military equipment to Democratic Union Party (PYD) forces near Aleppo.

    A statement by the Local Coordination Committees of Syria (LCCS) confirmed that, on Wednesday, a Russian military aircraft dropped five tons of standard arms and ammunition for the PYD forces, north of Aleppo.
    The Russian military support for the Syrian Kurds comes after a Russian warplane was downed by Turkey last week and tensions between Moscow and Ankara escalated in the area. Russian manoeuvres for greater influence in the Syrian civil war by supporting Kurdish players, will anger Ankara greatly. The supplies will support Kurds in their efforts to connect Kobani and Afrin in northern Syria, by taking control of areas around the A’zaz district. Syrian Kurdish parties, supported by both the US and Russia, have proven their effectiveness in the war against Islamic State (IS) and other radical Islamist groups. Turkey accuses the PYD of affiliation with the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), and claims that international military support to Syrian Kurdish parties will be used against Turkey by the PKK."


    Any truth in it, what you think?

    Source: http://www.basnews.com/index.php/en/news/middle-east/246536

    Why Parachute when you can land in Qamishli? Also 5 tons? Going for a conservative measure, that's about 250 AK's /100 PKM's. Usually Soviet crates of ammo weigh 30kg. They come in two flavours 1400 rounds of m43/880 rounds of 7.62x54R.

    Let's split 20/10 so we have 66 crates of m43 and 34 crates of 7.62x54R which means about 120+ thousand rounds. That's about 300 bands for those PKM's. and rougly 3000+ mags worth of ammo for those AK's. Split in 6, that's 500 complements (so basically) those 5 tons equip a slim battalion.  Why not.


    Well 5t of ammunition can cover basically 24h needs of a batallion during intense fighting its not much but... if its true at all ofc. Our "operation" standard is 300 service rifle bullets per man per day, for 500men strong batallion.... 150.000.

    Same for ours in Albanistan. 300/6 mags. If you shed half the PKM's then you have about 100+ more AK's so about 400+ weapons. Right in the battalion level. I don't know.
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    Post  par far on Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:52 am

    The Turkish Assault on Russia’s SU-24 was Guided by the US Air Force.



    http://www.globalresearch.ca/bombshell-the-turkish-assault-on-russias-su-24-was-guided-by-the-us-air-force/5493075


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    Post  kvs on Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:16 am

    Ivan the Colorado wrote:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ab1_1449177441

    Su-34 strike from Jihadist perspective.

    Must be a grain powder explosion at a food depot.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:26 am

    kvs wrote:
    Ivan the Colorado wrote:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ab1_1449177441

    Su-34 strike from Jihadist perspective.

    Must be a grain powder explosion at a food depot.

    Absolutely Twisted Evil ...RuAF is now officially known as the 'Grain Busters' Cool

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    Post  Vann7 on Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:10 am

    Ivan the Colorado wrote:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ab1_1449177441

    Su-34 strike from Jihadist perspective.

    Looks like a foab bomb?
    But if was an Su-34.. then not sure if that plane can launch such bombs..

    I want to see FOAB. and a dozen of them dropped in IDLIB and Hama and Norther Syria in
    terrorist controlled zones. Smile
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:04 am

    kvs wrote:
    Ivan the Colorado wrote:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ab1_1449177441

    Su-34 strike from Jihadist perspective.

    Must be a grain powder explosion at a food depot.

    Definitely must be, according to that "sweartome123" troll.
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    Post  Backinblack on Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:46 am

    Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Rai reported about Russia’s preparations to deploy the second military base in Syria. Group of Russian Airspace Force as well as sustaining and screening units will be deployed on the Shairat airbase 35 km south-eastwards Homs. Amount of Russian aircraft based in Syria may then rise up to 100.

    http://mil.today/2015/Syria40/

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    Post  Godric on Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:58 am

    Vann7 wrote:
    Ivan the Colorado wrote:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ab1_1449177441

    Su-34 strike from Jihadist perspective.

    Looks like a foab bomb?
    But if was an Su-34.. then not sure if that plane can launch such bombs..

    I want to see FOAB. and a dozen of them dropped in IDLIB and Hama and Norther Syria in
    terrorist controlled zones. Smile

    wow 3 seconds in massive energy pulse
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    Post  jhelb on Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:25 am

    GarryB wrote:The AMRAAM missile is not the super weapon some in the west like to pretend it is, though against an unaware enemy it gets results sometimes.

    I doubt the F-16 used anything but an AMRAAM because I doubt they wanted to get too close to the target in case it turned on them.

    I rather suspect Flankers will be equipped with R-77-1s which have been in production for the last three years... the fact that it has not been widely photographed on Russian fighters is a stupid argument... show me a photo of an in service Russian fighter with live AAMs on wing pylons and I will point out the black stripes indicating dummy rounds for practise.

    The R-73 is still a benchmark weapon comparable to the latest available today in performance if not technology.

    Garry, on what basis do manufacturers of Air to Air missiles decide whether the missile should denote on impact or whether it should be a proximity detonation?
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    Post  Guest on Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:51 am

    Vann7 wrote:
    Ivan the Colorado wrote:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ab1_1449177441

    Su-34 strike from Jihadist perspective.

    Looks like a foab bomb?
    But if was an Su-34.. then not sure if that plane can launch such bombs..

    I want to see FOAB. and a dozen of them dropped in IDLIB and Hama and Norther Syria in
    terrorist controlled zones. Smile
    Couldn't be FOAB. Only warplane we've seen the FOAB is the White Swan. Anyway, by the data available, a FOAB would wipe out nothing short of a village.

    KAB-1500L (which were reported to be in Syria) is most likely candidate for causing an explosion so big.

    jhelb wrote:
    GarryB wrote:The AMRAAM missile is not the super weapon some in the west like to pretend it is, though against an unaware enemy it gets results sometimes.

    I doubt the F-16 used anything but an AMRAAM because I doubt they wanted to get too close to the target in case it turned on them.

    I rather suspect Flankers will be equipped with R-77-1s which have been in production for the last three years... the fact that it has not been widely photographed on Russian fighters is a stupid argument... show me a photo of an in service Russian fighter with live AAMs on wing pylons and I will point out the black stripes indicating dummy rounds for practise.

    The R-73 is still a benchmark weapon comparable to the latest available today in performance if not technology.

    Garry, on what basis do manufacturers of Air to Air missiles decide whether the missile should denote on impact or whether it should be a proximity detonation?
    I have my doubts that Garry or any of us have the ability to answer that question truthfully.

    It would vary from missile to missile and manufacturer to manufacturer. I would bet that most of the information on how the detonate is based on a plethora of details like angle of impact, airspeed, etc.

    Then you have to take into account of the type of missile that was launched. For example, there is a considerable difference in what an AWACS killer like the R-33/R-37 and a short range missile like R-73 could carry in explosives.

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