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    Post  Monarchist on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:02 pm

    This has nothing to do with that russian jets passed into Turkey several times.
    It has do to with that Russia and Iran spoiled and destroyed their plans for Syria, because Syrian army had started to collapse. They have turned the war and Turkey and especially Erdogan personally is losing hundred of millions of dollars because of the destroyed oil tankers.
    Russia should bring more jets and helis and intensify the bombing, and especially exterminate the turkmen groups and provide weapons to PKK, YPG and then Turkey will regret this for a very long time.

    Ps. Bring on Kadyrovtsy aswell on the ground let them fight out the jihadists and turkmen groups in Latakia.


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    Post  Firebird on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:02 pm

    Friends of mine went to Turdkey when they were kids. The boys said it was riddled with middle aged homosexuals trying to get up to filthy shit with them. The older girls (really REALLY attractive) were totally ignored.

    PS some interesting stories that the Erdocunt family are involved personally with ISIS.
    Turdkey only ever sucked up to the Christian world for money. It was as scummy as any cesspool like Saudi tho.


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    Post  Acheron on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:03 pm

    ultron wrote:Russia must deploy ground forces to end this war. SAA is incompetent. After TWO MONTHS of offensive, SAA could not take Salma which is only a few meters from the front line. Hader and Eis were captured by Iraqis and Iranians, not by SAA.

    And Ukrops were not able to take Gorlovka or hold Donetsk airport. The issue here is that the Turks have their arms up to the elbows in the shit going on in Syria; they are training and supplying thousands of their proxies (and maybe even have ground troops in place), and find this relatively easy to accomplish due to the proximity of Idlib and Latakia to Turkish borders.
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    Post  Regular on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:04 pm

    There was no stab in the back.
    Turkey is rabbid dog. If You put Your weener through the cage he will bite.
    How can they stab Russia in the back if they were known supporters of terrorists.
    Look at their politicians talking about ISIS as a goos thing. Ffs. Do they think we are all stupid
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    Post  Godric on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:06 pm

    America has already thrown Turkey under the bus "it's a matter between Turkey and Russia"
    PKK are going to get loads of new Russian toys = Turkish armed forces are going to bleed
    Russia will be within rights to flatten the Turkish airbase the fighters came from

    Russia also need to cut off all gas supplies to those kebab munching b*stards

    hammer the Turkmens into the ground for the murder of the two Russian pilots
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:06 pm

    Firebird wrote:Friends of mine went to Turdkey when they were kids. The boys said it was riddled with middle aged homosexuals trying to get up to filthy shit with them.The older girls (really REALLY attractive) were totally ignored.

    PS some interesting stories that the Erdocunt family are involved personally with ISIS.
    Turdkey only ever sucked up to the Christian world for money. It was as scummy as any cesspool like Saudi tho.

    Old Ottoman tradition from the days of the Janissaries...
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:07 pm

    Regular wrote:There was no stab in the back.
    Turkey is rabbid dog. If You put Your weener through the cage he will bite.
    How can they stab Russia in the back if they were known supporters of terrorists.
    Look at their politicians talking about ISIS as a goos thing. Ffs. Do they think we are all stupid

    There was a "deconfliction" scheme agreed. The fact also that the Coastal Division BS got in place rather quickly and prepared, is also a sign this was the plan from the beginning.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:09 pm

    Regular wrote:There was no stab in the back.
    Turkey is rabbid dog. If You put Your weener through the cage he will bite.
    How can they stab Russia in the back if they were known supporters of terrorists.
    Look at their politicians talking about ISIS as a goos thing. Ffs. Do they think we are all stupid

    I understand what you say but Turkey is not some two bit militant group, it is recognized country with official military.
    There are rules and code on that level, both written and unwritten.

    This bullshit will not stand.
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    Post  flamming_python on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:12 pm

    Godric wrote:America has already thrown Turkey under the bus "it's a matter between Turkey and Russia"
    PKK are going to get loads of new Russian toys = Turkish armed forces are going to bleed
    Russia will be within rights to flatten the Turkish airbase the fighters came from

    Russia also need to cut off all gas supplies to those kebab munching b*stards

    hammer the Turkmens into the ground for the murder of the two Russian pilots

    Sounds good
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    Post  Bidoul on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:12 pm

    Firebird wrote:Friends of mine went to Turdkey when they were kids. The boys said it was riddled with middle aged homosexuals trying to get up to filthy shit with them. The older girls (really REALLY attractive) were totally ignored.

    The only joke I heard from a guy named Erdogan (and yes they're distantly related) was "Do you know how we call anal virginity in Turkey? Running faster than your uncle".
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    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:14 pm

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    Post  Monarchist on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:17 pm

    https://twitter.com/AEJKhalil?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

    This was found on him, atleast our Lord and his Holy mother was with him until the end... cry May he find peace.


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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:19 pm

    Monarchist wrote:https://twitter.com/AEJKhalil/status/669135484870893568/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

    This was found on him, atleast our Lord and his Holy mother was with him until the end... cry May he find peace.
    Link fails, maybe Twitter erased it. Assume it was a cross.
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    Post  Monarchist on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:21 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Monarchist wrote:https://twitter.com/AEJKhalil/status/669135484870893568/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

    This was found on him, atleast our Lord and his Holy mother was with him until the end... cry May he find peace.
    Link fails, maybe Twitter erased it. Assume it was a cross.
    https://twitter.com/AEJKhalil/status/669135484870893568
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    Post  George1 on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:22 pm

    Russia will respond to this with anger
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    Post  Godric on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:24 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Monarchist wrote:https://twitter.com/AEJKhalil/status/669135484870893568/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

    This was found on him, atleast our Lord and his Holy mother was with him until the end... cry May he find peace.
    Link fails, maybe Twitter erased it. Assume it was a cross.

    https://twitter.com/AEJKhalil/status/669135484870893568 then scroll up ... this is a Turkish twitter page .... fucking raging calling the dead pilot a mercenary Mad
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    Post  arpakola on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:24 pm

    http://charly015.blogspot.gr/2015/11/derribo-de-un-su-24m-en-siria-incidente.html
    And what we see is that the space traveled by the aircraft of Russian air space to Turkish according to the Turkish version! is of about 2800 m. Remember, 5 minutes of warnings to aircraft of Russian according to the Turkish version!.

    A calculation at flying pen. A plane like the Su-24M that can exceed Mach can perfectly be carrying out their mission of bombing at 6000 m of height and 500 or 600 or 700 km/h. Let's take the middle value, 600 km/h.

    A Su-24M 600 km/h flying at 6000 m of height it would take for 16.8 seconds to traverse the 2.8 miles from the syrian airspace.

    You can give a margin between input and output but from 16.8 seconds and 300 seconds (5 minutes) notices that denounce the turks there is a big difference.

    Now I provide my opinion on this incident:

    In my opinion, this has not been an incident of sudden, casual if you want. I think that the Ministry of defence Turkish wanted to trigger a crisis now that is leaving aside, for the account of the conversations of French with English, russians, and americans.

    My opinion, I want to make it clear, is that the fighters turks went out to hunt a plane or a helicopter of russia is deliberate and knowing, as you know, that the rebels will stick to the Turkish border in order to achieve the "sanctuary" that offers Turkey and that it was only a matter of time that any aircraft Russian he would give him standing to bring this action, always with the umbrella of that violated its airspace.

    Turkey was staying on the sidelines and with this blow on the table again to get full, and I don't think that is a coincidence.

    Now move to Russia and Putin has already made an intervention quite hard to see in what results in the next few hours.
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    Post  Firebird on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:24 pm

    Bidoul wrote:
    Firebird wrote:Friends of mine went to Turdkey when they were kids. The boys said it was riddled with middle aged homosexuals trying to get up to filthy shit with them. The older girls (really REALLY attractive) were totally ignored.

    The only joke I heard from a guy named Erdogan (and yes they're distantly related) was "Do you know how we call anal virginity in Turkey? Running faster than your uncle".

    Very Happy Hehe

    How do you separate the men from the boys in Ankara?




    Answer:With a crowbar!

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    Post  zorobabel on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:27 pm

    Monarchist wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    Monarchist wrote:https://twitter.com/AEJKhalil/status/669135484870893568/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

    This was found on him, atleast our Lord and his Holy mother was with him until the end... cry May he find peace.
    Link fails, maybe Twitter erased it. Assume it was a cross.
    https://twitter.com/AEJKhalil/status/669135484870893568
    Lord, have mercy.
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    Post  medo on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:27 pm

    RuAF will now have to arm their planes with jamming pods and air to air missiles to fire back on turkish planes, when they come too close.
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    Post  zg18 on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:28 pm

    US basically says "matter is between Russia and Turkey". No article 5. for Ankara, Erdogan is on its own.
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    Post  Regular on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:28 pm

    Relax, they can say what they want. It's a wank fest for russphobes today.
    All I can say is I feel big respect for Russian pilots and I hope their families will get all the support their need.
    I'm interested in Russian operations after this incident, does it mean certain areas of Syria will be avoided?
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    Post  Vann7 on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:34 pm


    Well it looks like a ray of hope but a little late..but still positive..

    IT looks the downed plane did not have any electronic warfare or equipment..
    and Russia will be equipping their planes with several extra new measures
    of counter electronics and other things to protect its airforce.

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151124/1030665306/russia-syria-electronic-warfare.html
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    Post  Guest on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:37 pm

    Okay...this is...weird...

    "Turkey believes Russian pilots from downed plane still alive, helping secure their release from Syrian rebels."

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3332223/Turkey-believes-Russian-pilots-alive-seeking-release--govt-official.html
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:39 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    Well it looks like a ray of hope but a little late..but still positive..

    IT looks the downed plane did not have any electronic warfare or equipment..
    and Russia will be equipping their planes with several extra new measures
    of counter electronics and other things to protect its airforce.

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151124/1030665306/russia-syria-electronic-warfare.html

    Better now then never but very sad pilots must die for this decision :/

    I hope also now those number of fighters (now 4x Su30SM2 and 4x Su-27SM3) will be substantially increased armed and protecting bombers. then will come time to celebrate starting diplomatic ties with free Kurdistan on terrain of former Turkey!

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