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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #1

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    Post  Guest Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:33 pm

    Algerian Major wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Update on the planes at Latakia

    [i]Satellite imagery released in the last couple of days has exposed the presence of 28 Russian aircraft at al-Assad airfield, near Latakia, in western Syria.

    The photographs taken from space gave us the possibility to identify the combat planes as 4x Su-30SMs, 12x Su-25s (based on their color scheme, these are Su-25SMs belonging to the 368th Assault Aviation Regiment from Budyonnovsk) and 12 Su-24M2s along with about a dozen helicopters, including 10 Mi-24PN, Mi-35M and a couple of Mi-8AMTSh choppers, from the 387th Army Aviation Air Base Budyonnovsk.

    One of our sources with IMINT Imagery Intel experience, who has had access to the imagery in the public domain, noticed something interesting on one of the Su-30SM: the first on the left (the one closer to the runway threshold) should be equipped with a KNIRTI SPS-171 / L005S Sorbtsiya-S mid/high band defensive jammer (ECM) at the wing tips. To be honest this is almost impossible to verify unless more high-resolution images become available.

    Whilst satellite shots provided much details about the deployed assets, they obviously didn’t help answer the basic question: how did they manage to reach Syria undetected?

    According to one source close who wishes to remain anonymous, the Russian combat planes have probably deployed to Latakia trailing the cargo planes that were tracked flying to Syria and back on Flightradar24.com, something that other analysts have also suggested.

    There is someone who believes that during their ferry flight, some if not all the formation (each made of a cargo plane and four accompanying fast jets) may have made a stopover in Iran before flying the last leg to Latakia. This would also explain why some Il-76s (with an endurance that would allow a non-stop fly from Russia to Latakia) were observed stopping at Hamadan on Sept. 18-19, just before the Sukhois started appearing on the tarmac

    How about that they were transported from Algeria and not from Russia directly, after all they wouldn't expect large military convoys from Algeria. The USSR transported entire regiments to Cuba in 1962

    And how about recon drones, the petchela-1C can be pretty useful for recon

    For those asking about Russian drones being used in Syria i belive we got something now.

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    Apparently this is Eleron-3SV being shot in Syria.

    "An Russian «ELERON-3SV» was lost while flying over the principal port city of Syria, according to a defense official. Jabhat al-Nusra shot down a $55,000 Syria-operated «Eleron-3SV» intelligence UAV over Latakia."

    Sources: http://defence-blog.com/news/russian-eleron-3sv-lost-over-syria.html

    And: http://lugansk-news.com/eleron-3sv-200k-russian-military-intelligence-drone-as-a-present-to-donetsk-terrorists/eleron3sv_syria/
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    Post  mutantsushi Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:36 pm

    re: Eleron-3SV pics

    Pretty sure pics of that exact same model have been seen since at least several months back if not longer.
    But sure, that's an example of the ISR support being given.
    Interesting to know if it's being operated by Russian crews, Syrian crews, or mix.
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:38 pm

    How did they manage that? The airforce base is still aways away from the danger zone unless it was flying from to the danger zones?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:40 pm

    That's a tactical drone, nothing really fancy. The real issue is that UCAV's might actually be chinese. That would be a real game changer, especially hitting the Aleppo area.

    Seph: It's a very slow drone and flies generally between 1000 and 3000 meters. Sometimes even lower to get an accurate picture; With enough rounds on a ZSU-23 you're going to hit at some point.
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    Post  Guest Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:54 pm

    Those interested more in this drone you have certain specs available on company site here http://www.enics.ru/bla?product_id=57 and here http://www.enics.ru/product?product_id=62.

    Apparently one of them was shot during july i belive and curious thing is that it was equiped with civilian camera.

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    Its TG830 iHS civilian grade camera for outdoor use. This is some info about it: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2418549,00.asp

    "It's tough enough to go 33 feet underwater, survive being dropped by your average NBA center, and can operate in frigid temperatures. It packs a GPS, so your photos will be tagged with the location of where they were captured, and you get a generous 5x zoom lens."
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    Post  Guest Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:02 am

    "The new variant of the Orlan-10 has a set of twelve cameras located in its fuselage, identical to the example that crashed in the Ukraine. With these cameras, the Oran-10 can create 3D maps of the battlefront to provide extremely detailed information on enemy movements and strongholds. It is believed that the equipment used on the Orlan-10 can be changed depending on the mission, for instance to accommodate a night vision apparatus."

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    These photos are apparently from Syria and its Orlan-10 on them so as someone above asked about Orlans here is the answer.

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    Post  Guest Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:07 pm

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    "Су-24 в небе над Идлибом. "


    Source: https://twitter.com/FPaidinfull/status/646958979424362496
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    Post  Stealthflanker Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:57 pm

    Now i wonder if Israeli will still intrude to Syrian airspace with S-300 in place.

    One of the most disturbing aspect i see from Syrian war was that they practically have no control of their airspace. and seems to be not coordinated properly.
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    Post  Algerian Major Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:07 pm

    I think the Israeli will still commit such acts, since the s-300s can't be USED against any aircraft and there usage is only as a political card.
    Also seams Syria is getting s-300pmu2 , huh history repeats it self (1982)
    And Algeria is getting s-400 lol
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:08 pm

    I think it would be a good idea to arm ~50,000 refugees from Donbass and send them to fight in Syria in exchange for land. SAA is quite short on manpower, there are whole Alawite villages where all men of fighting age were killed. Attrition among cadre officers is also very high (last (just this summer several generals were killed) and SAA general staff is basically in command of a militia.
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    Post  NationalRus Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:11 pm

    Stealthflanker wrote:Now i wonder if Israeli will still intrude to Syrian airspace with S-300 in place.

    One of the most disturbing aspect i see from Syrian war was that they practically have no control of their airspace.  and seems to be not coordinated properly.

    if needed they will but everything will be cordinated with russia, strikes on SAA are nearly off the map now but hezbollah and other groups are fair game
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    Post  Cyberspec Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:12 pm

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    "Су-24 в небе над Идлибом. "


    Source: https://twitter.com/FPaidinfull/status/646958979424362496

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    Arrow Video of the Su-24's : https://twitter.com/NorthernStork/status/646939096607121408

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    Dozor-600 UAV spotted on the runway
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    Syria deploys Russia drones against Daesh for first time: Source
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    Post  sepheronx Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:26 pm

    Can you update the dozor-600 image? Host it on imgur or something cause it doesnt work for me at least.
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    Post  Cyberspec Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:36 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Can you update the dozor-600 image? Host it on imgur or something cause it doesnt work for me at least.

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    There's some suggestions that the Syrian AF has received fresh supplies....apparently their air strikes have increased in ferocity and destructive power....

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    Post  sepheronx Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:48 pm

    Thats a dozor-600? Cause it looks like something on the wings close to the base of the drone that are sticking out, similar to engines one would see on other drones.

    Dunno but I dont think that is Dozor-600. I could be entirely wrong though.
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    Post  Guest Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:10 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Can you update the dozor-600 image? Host it on imgur or something cause it doesnt work for me at least.

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    Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #1 - Page 12 Th_431017412_Dozor_Syria_122_522lo


    That photo features supposed Altius M at the factory airfield in Kazan. The photo was taken on September 25, 2014.

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    Here you can see it in abit better quality. Someone is trying to sell alot of crap at this moment regarding Russian equpment in Syria so be careful. Dozor 600 to my knowledge was never produced in any significant number except couple prototypes probably under 5.
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    Post  medo Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:11 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Can you update the dozor-600 image? Host it on imgur or something cause it doesnt work for me at least.

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    There's some suggestions that the Syrian AF has received fresh supplies....apparently their air strikes have increased in ferocity and destructive power....


    On the video is a Flogger jet. If it use PGMs, than maybe Russia deliver to Syria some MiG-27 bombers.
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    Post  ult Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:12 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:I think it would be a good idea to arm ~50,000 refugees from Donbass and send them to fight in Syria in exchange for land. SAA is quite short on manpower, there are whole Alawite villages where all men of fighting age were killed. Attrition among cadre officers is also very high (last (just this summer several generals were killed) and SAA general staff is basically in command of a militia.

    W. T. F.

    ???????

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    Post  medo Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:14 pm

    Militarov wrote:
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    sepheronx wrote:Can you update the dozor-600 image? Host it on imgur or something cause it doesnt work for me at least.

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    That photo features supposed Altius M at the factory airfield in Kazan. The photo was taken on September 25, 2014.

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    Here you can see it in abit better quality. Someone is trying to sell alot of crap at this moment regarding Russian equpment in Syria so be careful. Dozor 600 to my knowledge was never produced in any significant number except couple prototypes probably under 5.

    It also stand at Tu-22M3, which Russia didn't send to Syria. If Syrian army have bigger UAVs, than they are either from Iran either from China.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:15 pm

    Expansion of Russian influence all over the world cannot be limited solely to economic influence -but it must also include demographic expansion of the Russian population.

    Without that, there is no expansion at all.
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    Post  Guest Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:34 pm

    "The OSV-96, the first type of anti-materiel rifle to ever have been acquired by Syria, continues to see service with numerous factions in the now four-year long Civil War. Although the presence of the OSV-96 before the start of the Syrian Civil War was very limited, it has by now become the Syrian Arab Army's (SyAA) second most popular anti-materiel rifle after the Iranian AM.50.

    A limited number OSV-96s were acquired by the Syrian Arab Army shortly before the Civil War as part of the ambitious modernisation programme aimed at improving the protection and firepower of a portion of its infantry force at the time. This programme, cut short due to the outbreak of the civil war, also included the acquisition of various other types of Russian-made small arms. As the OSV-96s came with night vision sights, the OSV-96 potentially has a great advantage over the popular Iranian HS.50, for which the SyAA and National Defence Force (NDF) mostly lack night vision sights. Although available to the regime, these night vision sights are often only handed out to specialised units or bought by individual soldiers. With the recent introduction of the 6S8, it remains unknown if more batches of the OSV-96 will be acquired. But with new Russian-made weaponry reaching Syria nigh continuously, an increasing presence of the OSV-96 would be little surprising."


    Source: http://spioenkop.blogspot.rs/2015/07/from-russia-with-love-syrias-osv-96.html

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    Post  Vann7 Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:24 pm



    Looks like BTR-82A have been supplied to Syrian army recently.. this are modern versions
    that this not enter in Russian army until 2014.

    http://defence-blog.com/army/russia-supplied-to-btr-82a-armoured-personnel-carrier-syria.html




    The apparently Syrian army facebook page.. says the same..

    https://www.facebook.com/syrianmilitary

    also Su-24M2 too..

    and last but not least a new form of fuel bombs designed specifically to target
    jihadist rodents who hides in Tunnels underground. and burn for long time.
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    Post  NationalRus Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:27 pm

    you are reposting old stuff Vann that 1 BTR was sighted and mentioned like 5000 times by now and syria has SU-24 modernized by russia since 2013 so its a SyAAF SU thats nothing new Rolling Eyes

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    Post  Guest Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:30 pm

    Vann7 wrote:

    Looks like BTR-82A have been supplied to Syrian army recently.. this are modern versions
    that this not enter in Russian army until 2014.

    http://defence-blog.com/army/russia-supplied-to-btr-82a-armoured-personnel-carrier-syria.html




    The apparently Syrian army facebook page.. says the same..

    https://www.facebook.com/syrianmilitary

    also Su-24M2 too..

    and last but not least a new form of fuel bombs designed specifically to target
    jihadist rodents who hides in Tunnels underground. and burn for long time.  

    Yeah BTR82As were spotted couple months ago actually. They already operated SU24M2s, last ones were updated during 2013. there is no information of them obtaining additional borts from Russia beside 22 they operated already.
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    Post  zg18 Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:46 pm

    Su-30SM over Latakia

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