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    Post  JohninMK Thu May 10, 2018 7:58 pm

    archangelski wrote:
    Note the poor bastard who ran from the group on the left to the Pantsir as the munition came down.
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    Post  archangelski Thu May 10, 2018 8:04 pm

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    Note the poor bastard who ran from the group on the left to the Pantsir as the munition came down.

    Yes, I also noticed the guy returning to the Pantsir. He was probably aware of the attack and tried to clear the vehicle. Courageous but suicidal...
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    Post  KiloGolf Thu May 10, 2018 8:16 pm

    archangelski wrote:Syrian War: News #17 - Page 34 PyESKju

    Gotta hand it to them, they know how to roll.
    Also, why exactly is an idle Pantsir in the middile of a runway?

    I'm not buying it's being reloaded, no other vehicles are around and that hardly happens at such a location (frickin middile of the runway).

    SAA got caught with their pants down, once again.
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    Post  Isos Thu May 10, 2018 8:23 pm

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    archangelski wrote:Syrian War: News #17 - Page 34 PyESKju

    Gotta hand it to them, they know how to roll.

    Letting a fucking pantsir turned off in the middle of an airfield being attacked, and stand near it, is really smart ... they should paint red target circle on them next time.

    Not surprising they lose all their wars ... Russians should get out of Syria. They are hopeless
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    Post  KiloGolf Thu May 10, 2018 8:27 pm

    Isos wrote:Letting a fucking pantsir turned off in the middle of and airfield being attacked, and stand near it, is really smart ... they shoukd paint red target circle on them next time.

    Not surprising they lose all their wars ... Russians should get out of Syria. They are hopeless

    SAA is so stupid with videos like these.

    Park such a sophisticated asset, engine running in the middle of a cold runway, switch the weapon system off, stand on the side having smokes and tea. And definitely try not to use any netting whatsoever.

    Suspect
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu May 10, 2018 8:28 pm

    T-47 wrote:Doesn't really matter what that Israeli shit Bibi told Putin. Russia needs to seriously show Israel who is in control there. -_-

    And who do you think gave clearance to Bibi for this little cleanup ops in the first place?

    SAA should finally shelf this whole Golan bullshit for next decade and focus on things that actually matter.

    If Iran wants to get ripped to shreds it's their prerogative. If SAA wants to go down with them also no problem but it would be wiser to keep the distance in the future and focus on finishing the war.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu May 10, 2018 8:31 pm

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    Within Syria
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    The Israeli Army claimed today that it destroyed a BM-30 Smerch and a Pantsir-S1 of the Iranian Army ... only problem is that Iran don't operate any of these systems and they were of the Syrian Army, as I said Israel didn't hit any key Iranian position yesterday
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    If they were covering Iranians then they got themselves on target list.
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    Post  Isos Thu May 10, 2018 8:32 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    T-47 wrote:Doesn't really matter what that Israeli shit Bibi told Putin. Russia needs to seriously show Israel who is in control there. -_-

    And who do you think gave clearance to Bibi for this little cleanup ops in the first place?

    SAA should finally shelf this whole Golan bullshit for next decade and focus on things that actually matter.

    If Iran wants to get ripped to shreds it's their prerogative. If SAA wants to go down with them also no problem but it would be wiser to keep the distance in the future and focus on finishing the war.

    It somehow is benefic to Russia. The nuclear deal is more than dead with this attack and it will divide more Europeans and US who won't discuss anymore because Iran attacked.
    Russia tries since long time to divide them. They succeed with Turkey in Nato and now with nuclear deal dead there are tensions between EU and US.

    Putin knows how to take advantage of any situation for sure.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu May 10, 2018 8:36 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Isos wrote:Letting a fucking pantsir turned off in the middle of and airfield being attacked, and stand near it, is really smart ... they shoukd paint red target circle on them next time.

    Not surprising they lose all their wars ... Russians should get out of Syria. They are hopeless

    SAA is so stupid with videos like these.

    Park such a sophisticated asset, engine running in the middle of a cold runway, switch the weapon system off, stand on the side having smokes and tea. And definitely try not to use any netting whatsoever.

    Suspect


    That thing has auto mode, they could have at least switched that on but I guess it would be too much hassle... Rolling Eyes




    Isos wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    T-47 wrote:Doesn't really matter what that Israeli shit Bibi told Putin. Russia needs to seriously show Israel who is in control there. -_-

    And who do you think gave clearance to Bibi for this little cleanup ops in the first place?

    SAA should finally shelf this whole Golan bullshit for next decade and focus on things that actually matter.

    If Iran wants to get ripped to shreds it's their prerogative. If SAA wants to go down with them also no problem but it would be wiser to keep the distance in the future and focus on finishing the war.

    It somehow is benefic to Russia. The nuclear deal is more than dead with this attack and it will divide more Europeans and US who won't discuss anymore because Iran attacked.
    Russia tries since long time to divide them. They succeed with Turkey in Nato and now with nuclear deal dead there are tensions between EU and US.

    Putin knows how to take advantage of any situation for sure.


    I makes sense actually, with ISIS getting finished off and rebels not too far behind it's time to start laying down the law.

    Iran wants a springboard into Israel apparently. Russia wants to keep the whole place nice and quiet for 50-75 years. Those two objectives are not compatible.

    Only room for one boss.
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    Post  Isos Thu May 10, 2018 8:41 pm

    I makes sense actually, with ISIS getting finished off and rebels not too far behind it's time to start laying down the law.

    Iran wants a springboard into Israel apparently. Russia wants to keep the whole place nice and quiet for 50-75 years. Those two objectives are not compatible.

    Only room for one boss.

    They have secured what they need. Iran is playing alone with some SAA units and chiite milicias. Russia doesn't protect them at all. Neither they protect them poloticaly actually.

    Israel won't touch russian any day soon. They are economic parteners and pushing russia in Iran's side totally is something they would never want. Specially now that hypersonic missiles and su-57 are ready.


    Iran is boss of nothing. They are weak military. Very weak. All they can do is send missiles and sole pasdaran armed with basic rifles. Nothing more like fighter jets or s-400 or destroyers ...
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    Post  KiloGolf Thu May 10, 2018 8:58 pm

    Isos wrote:Iran is boss of nothing. They are weak military. Very weak. All they can do is send missiles and sole pasdaran armed with basic rifles. Nothing more like fighter jets or s-400 or destroyers ...

    Iran is basic.

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    Post  Vann7 Thu May 10, 2018 9:01 pm


    developments in other fronts.. battles may9 Sdamascus

    Syria: SAA and IS militants in brutal battle for Yarmouk





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    Post  Vann7 Thu May 10, 2018 9:09 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

    Iran wants a springboard into Israel apparently. Russia wants to keep the whole place nice and quiet for 50-75 years. Those two objectives are not compatible.

    Only room for one boss.

    Israel is at war with Syria.. is the real target.. not IRAN .
    you are a fool if you eat their propaganda.. vast majority of the targets
    Israel hit are SYRIAN AIR BASES AND AIR DEFENSES.. get that fucking right..troll.
    IRAN don't have Pantsirs.. they why Israel targets them? is clear that Israel only goal
    is to weaken significantly Syria capabilities of defending itself and to partition it ..

    If Israel wants to attack IRAN.. and do damage to IRAN they can do it bombing
    IRANIAN nuclear reactor across the persian gulf.. why the fuck they dont do that ? Because is not about
    IRAN fool.. is about Syria and about Russia.. Israel don't want a strong Syria in the middle
    east , neither a strong Russia deployed there.. and this is why they target Syria army.

    SO stop spreading your ZIONIST Bullshit Propaganda.. israel is not interested in Targeting IRAN..
    at least for now.. they want Syria destroyed and Russia to run away .
    Neither israel is defending itself as they claim.. Your israeli friends are only seeking to reverse the victories
    of Russia and Syria in Syria ,before the terrorist they sponsor defeated.  So stop your Bulshit zionist  propaganda .
    Is Syria the one attacked.. and this last attacks only damage Syria not IRAN.. and who retaliated was not IRAN
    but Syria.. fighting back. So stop blowing the dick of Netanyahu.. troll.


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    Post  nomadski Thu May 10, 2018 9:16 pm

    @Vann7

    Before you move to real war and away from false war that usraeli is starting on behalf of the rats . I thought about AD system of Syria . And I think that presently they are doing well , with 50 to 70 percent of incoming missiles being hit . I agree that more AD system like pantsir can come from Russia as well as S300 . For when the Usraelis fly their hundreds of aircraft . That will be juicy target . But until more pantsir arrive . Then Syrians can build dummy pantsir very cheap and put cheap emitting radar on it , right next to real pantsir . Then this TV guided attack will not work . Ask Iranian technician for help . Also I saw photo of Usraeli outpost in Golan being smoked by SSBM of Syria . From size of explosion , I guess a 500 Kg warhead . Not small rocket . So this got through ! Wow . Carry on the good work . Also Syria needs reserves to fortify the border in Golan and for rearguard action . Once troops move west to liberate west Syria . Again ask Iranians for help . Many will come .



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    Post  Isos Thu May 10, 2018 9:18 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:

    Iran wants a springboard into Israel apparently. Russia wants to keep the whole place nice and quiet for 50-75 years. Those two objectives are not compatible.

    Only room for one boss.

    Israel is at war with Syria.. is the real target.. not IRAN .
    you are a fool if you eat their propaganda.. vast majority of the targets
    Israel hit are SYRIAN AIR BASES AND AIR DEFENSES.. get that fucking right..troll.
    IRAN don't have Pantsirs.. they why Israel targets them? is clear that Israel only goal
    is to weaken significantly Syria capabilities of defending itself and to partition it ..

    If Israel wants to attack IRAN.. and do damage to IRAN they can do it bombing
    IRANIAN nuclear reactor across the persian gulf.. why the fuck they dont do that ? Because is not about
    IRAN fool.. is about Syria and about Russia.. Israel don't want a strong Syria in the middle
    east , neither a strong Russia deployed there.. and this is why they target Syria army.

    SO stop spreading your ZIONIST Bullshit Propaganda.. israel is not interested in Targeting IRAN..
    Neither is defending itself as they claim.. Your israeli friends are only seeking to reverse Russia and Syria territorial
    gains in Syria ,before the terrorist they sponsor defeated.  So stop your Bulshit zionist  propaganda .
    Is Syria the one attacked.. and this last attacks only damage Syria not IRAN.. and who retaliated was not IRAN
    but Syria.. fighting back.

    Syria doesn't exist anymore. Nor the syrian army. Without Russia and chiite milicias they would have lost since long ago the little they had.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu May 10, 2018 9:21 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Isos wrote:Iran is boss of nothing. They are weak military. Very weak. All they can do is send missiles and sole pasdaran armed with basic rifles. Nothing more like fighter jets or s-400 or destroyers ...

    Iran is basic.


    Holy crap, one of my favorite actors dropping the horrible truth, how did I miss this gem? lol1



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    Post  Vann7 Thu May 10, 2018 9:32 pm

    [quote="Isos"][quote="Vann7"]
    PapaDragon wrote:

    Syria doesn't  exist anymore. Nor the syrian army. Without Russia and chiite milicias they would have lost since long ago the little they had.

    You could say the same argument about Israel..
    without US and NATO support , Israel will cease to exist.. it will be bombed day and night by thousands of missiles
    of the entire middle east.. the nukes Israel have were given to israel by US and Europe..the Planes israel have
    again given by NATO.. and they get dozen of $$ Billions of Dollars every year for improving its military.
    You can't win a war with an airforce alone... and Israel army will not invade Syria as long Syria have powerful
    artillery to push them back.. and also as long Russia is there. that will be a major red line... Notice how Russia
    bombed Israeli backed Rebels terrorist positions in southern Syria.. Now Israel own territory is being hit by missiles
    so Russia is already on a different set of Rules.. and will not give up on easily Syria without a good fight.

    Why did you think Americans are in pakistan in close $$$ relations with them ?
    To Protect israel ,from its nuclear weapons.. So imagine what will happen if US and Europe Cut
    relations with Israel.. Sanctions? will it experiences terrorist revolutions like Syria? will pakistan
    consider nuking Israel for what is doing to Palestinians? will saudi arabia continue its loyalty with israel
    if no longer have the support of NATO?

    Israel small state will not exist without US,UK and Europe support. and under major economic sanctions all jews in Israel will simply leave to europe.. all small nations in strategic places can't exist without the support of a major power.  If US and Europe did not support Israel .. Israel will be over run in little time..
    by all its neighbors.. with freedom fighters.. and their cities captured ,just like in Syria.. Pentagon already
    gave the middle east.. the manual to follow to capture cities in any middle east nations.. Lybia and Syria.
    are examples. if it worked in Lybia and Syria ,it can work in israel too.. and without the support of US with its small country will not hold.. Without US support ,and without Europe.. israel will cease to exist in not time.. All that is need is Pakistan to supply nukes to IRAN.. and game over... After 1 or 2 nuclear attacks on Israel ,done by suicide combat planes armed with nukes , the entire nation will break.. nobody will like to live in a radioactive land ,that terrorist can hit with nukes any time.



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    Post  Mindless_drone Thu May 10, 2018 9:38 pm

    archangelski wrote:Syrian War: News #17 - Page 34 PyESKju

    Jesus SA AD how embarrassing.

    Gross negligence. How is this even possible? Even if the reloading story is true are there not other pantsirs or buks around or even shika to provide some kind of cover or protection.

    That’s is really sad.

    Under no circumstance should Syria lose any pantsirs or buks unless they are captured by enemy ground forces.

    Russia should get all their shit and get the fuck out of Syria.

    And unlike Russia or Syria Israel actually posts footage.


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    Post  KiloGolf Thu May 10, 2018 9:45 pm

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    archangelski wrote:Syrian War: News #17 - Page 34 PyESKju

    Jesus SA AD how embarrassing.

    Gross negligence. How is this even possible? Even if the reloading story is true are there not other pantsirs or buks around or even shika to provide some kind of cover or protection.

    That’s is really sad.

    Under no circumstance should Syria lose any pantsirs or buks unless they are captured by enemy ground forces.

    Bad training. SAA has a long way to go till they can challenge Israel, they are very unprofessional and frankly of low military education.
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    Post  Mindless_drone Thu May 10, 2018 9:48 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
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    archangelski wrote:Syrian War: News #17 - Page 34 PyESKju

    Jesus SA AD how embarrassing.

    Gross negligence. How is this even possible? Even if the reloading story is true are there not other pantsirs or buks around or even shika to provide some kind of cover or protection.

    That’s is really sad.

    Under no circumstance should Syria lose any pantsirs or buks unless they are captured by enemy ground forces.

    Bad training. SAA has a long way to go till they can challenge Israel, they are very unprofessional and frankly of low military education.

    What’s hilarious if they just turned it on and drove it around that slow flying drone would have probably missed. Pretty sure pantsir can drive around at like 50 mph.
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    Post  Vann7 Thu May 10, 2018 10:01 pm

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    What’s hilarious if they just turned it on and drove it around that slow flying drone would have probably missed. Pretty sure pantsir can drive around at like 50 mph.


    That kamikazi drone have TV camera..and someone is remote controlling the drone..  Any relative cheap electronic warfare ,will have easily defeated the connection between the drone and its operator.. and interrupted the TV signal of the operators.. totally blinded him..  So if this video is not faked ,photoshoped ,video edited and fabricated by Israel.. (because such a video could be fabricated easily. ) and is real.. then it only shows poor planning of Russia.. that
    did not provided Electronic warfare defense to Syrian AD army positions..also poor discipline or training on Syrian
    AD operators..  if video is real.. it appears they lowered their guard and just turned off the system and were in break time.. celebrating life... lol1

    it will not be surprising if the video is real.. that it was done by a special force unit withing visual distance of the
    base . that sneak very close to Syrian base.. and Syrian operators were distracted by the Israeli attacks.. to notice the infiltration. This is another reason why is important to liberate all Syria territory and closely monitor it ,to not allow such
    drones attacks happening.


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    Post  KiloGolf Thu May 10, 2018 10:06 pm

    Vann7 wrote:poor planning of Russia.. that
    did not provided Electronic warfare defense to Syrian AD army positions..

    Oh so it's Russia's fault they parked it, switched off and un-covered on the middle of a cold, muthafricken runway at night, whilst enjoying cigs and soda.

    Son there's a war going on. angry
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu May 10, 2018 10:07 pm

    Vann7 wrote:........... then it only shows poor planning of Russia....

    Vann, only thing this (and everything else you seen over last 3 years) shows is that Russia doesn't give a shit about little Iranian project down South.

    Zero fucks given on any day of the week.
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    Post  Mindless_drone Thu May 10, 2018 10:08 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    Mindless_drone wrote:
    What’s hilarious if they just turned it on and drove it around that slow flying drone would have probably missed. Pretty sure pantsir can drive around at like 50 mph.


    That kamikazi drone have TV camera..and someone is remote controlling the drone..  Any relative cheap electronic warfare ,will have easily defeated the connection between the drone and its operator.. and interrupted the TV signal of the operators.. totally blinded him..  So if this video is not faked ,photoshoped ,video edited and fabricated by Israel.. (because such a video could be fabricated easily. ) and is real.. then it only shows poor planning of Russia.. that
    did not provided Electronic warfare defense to Syrian AD army positions..

    Russia has nothing to do with it. Syrians are incompetent. Proving them with EW equipment when they can’t even handle their sams is foolish. They would just end up jamming their own frequency etc...


    SAM and EW/ESM operators have to communicate with each other regarding which frequency to use vs with ones he SAM is using vs which targets to engage or jam.
    Way too complicated for sad Syrian AD.

    If those AD operators knew their was no EW coverage and no other sams protecting them then they should not have turned the pantsir off and left on the middle of the fucking airfield. They are terribly incompetent.

    Russia can’t fix stupid. Dude.
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    Post  Vann7 Thu May 10, 2018 10:15 pm

    Mindless_drone wrote:

    Russia has nothing to do with it. Syrians are incompetent. Proving them with EW equipment when they can’t even handle their sams is foolish. They would just end up jamming their own frequency etc...


    SAM and EW/ESM operators have to communicate with each other regarding which frequency to use vs with ones he SAM is using vs which targets to engage or jam.  
    Way too complicated for sad Syrian AD.

    If those AD operators knew their was no EW coverage and no other sams protecting them then they should not have turned the pantsir off and left on the middle of the fucking airfield. They are terribly incompetent.

    Russia can’t fix stupid. Dude.

    anyway if the video is Real.. and not fabricated.. in wars disinformation is part of it..
    Then Russia will know have learned that need to choose better the staff ,next time.. that will operate
    such complex machinery correctly. dedicated staff that did not lower their guards.. in a war zone.
    If video is real. it will mean.. that potentially this is the Second Pantsir loss.. there was the weird crash
    from , days ago of an earlier one.. shows not good training.. on the staff who drive and operates them.

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