Russian Navy: Status & News #4

PapaDragon wrote:

George1 wrote:Baltic Fleet patrol vessel Yaroslav Mudry enters Sudan’s port

The Russian navy sailors will also carry out the necessary maintenance check and overhaul of the ship during the three-day anchorage

KALININGRAD, August 15. /TASS/. The Yaroslav Mudry (Yaroslav the Wise) patrol vessel, which is keeping the watch in the Gulf of Aden area, ..........

The Yaroslav Mudry left the Baltiysk city naval harbor on April 15. The main tasks of the voyage are the demonstration of St. Andrew’s flag, the performance of tasks in accordance with the training plan and the provision of secure civil shipping in the Gulf of Aden and the Horn of Africa area.
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First of all Yaroslav Mudry is NOT patrol vessel, it's anti-submarine warfare frigate.

And second this is why Bykov-class patrol vessels are necessary for Russian Navy: to take the load off from proper warships and free them up by taking on this two-bit nonsense assignments​.

Instead of looking for submarines they have full-sized ASW frigates playing Coast Guard in Aden. And this is hardly worst situation, sometimes they send Udalois or even Slavas to waste time and mileage on this.

Bykovs can't come soon enough....

PapaDragon wrote:

eehnie wrote:.......
The presence of well armed ships with antisubmarine, antiship and air defense capabilities will be for sure enjoyed by the submarines threatening Syria from the Red sea.

Took me a while to decipher pathetically low quality sentence structure and grammar but I pulled it off so anyway, the reply:

Those "enjoyable" ships will not be doing anything because they will be too busy doing stupid nonsense like anti-piracy and diplomacy instead of stuff they were built to do.

eehnie wrote:.......You are promoting the Project 22160 only because you expect them low armed and as consequence unable to oppose any US combat ship. The problem is that you will see them better armed than you expect.

Even though other ships had decade head start it is Bykov-class that is closest to completion even though more of them were ordered in first batch than there will be all Gorshkovs​ combined.

I see them as ships that exist as opposed to one-off test-beds, promo platforms and fanarts.

Also, no surface ship or ships in Russian fleet will ever be able to oppose US fleet. Sheer numbers are insurmountable.

That is why Russian Navy are not being idiots and are focusing on submarines for this job.

Jutland was long ago. Those days are over. Deal with it.

Hole wrote:The job of the russian navy is to defend her country, her ships are equipped accordingly, mostly with anti-ship missiles. Amiland has just 150 surface ships. If the are dumb enough to attack Russia, they will be destroyed.

PapaDragon wrote:

Even if all Russian surface ships launch all their missiles (both AA and AShM) and every single one of them hits and destroys it's intended target there will still be enough US ships and aircraft left to erase Russian fleet from existence several times over in just one sitting.

Math. No going around it.

PapaDragon wrote:
Math is fine and so is problem formulation.

Kinzhal from aircraft, Poseidon from submarines.

No Russian surface ships in this equation.

PapaDragon wrote:

Hole wrote:The job of the russian navy is to defend her country, her ships are equipped accordingly, mostly with anti-ship missiles. Amiland has just 150 surface ships. If the are dumb enough to attack Russia, they will be destroyed.

If USN attacks​ Russia they will be destroyed. But not as a result of Russian surface fleet but predominantly by submarines, coastal missiles and airforce.

What local "experts" here are trying to pass off as reality is that Russian Navy will be taking on US Navy in direct surface combat away from Russian coast and not get obliterated.

Even if all Russian surface ships launch all their missiles (both AA and AShM) and every single one of them hits and destroys it's intended target there will still be enough US ships and aircraft left to erase Russian fleet from existence several times over in just one sitting.

Math. No going around it.

PapaDragon wrote:

c'mon 22160 is sooo sexy especilly with Zircons, Pantsir  and Paket

Why the hell not? It would be makeshift solution but whatever...

But for the love of Cthulhu can they just once reach DOUBLE​ DIGIT production number? Otherwise why bother....

Isos wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

Hole wrote:The job of the russian navy is to defend her country, her ships are equipped accordingly, mostly with anti-ship missiles. Amiland has just 150 surface ships. If the are dumb enough to attack Russia, they will be destroyed.

If USN attacks Russia they will be destroyed. But not as a result of Russian surface fleet but predominantly by submarines, coastal missiles and airforce.

What local "experts" here are trying to pass off as reality is that Russian Navy will be taking on US Navy in direct surface combat away from Russian coast and not get obliterated.

Even if all Russian surface ships launch all their missiles (both AA and AShM) and every single one of them hits and destroys it's intended target there will still be enough US ships and aircraft left to erase Russian fleet from existence several times over in just one sitting.

Math. No going around it.

US can't afford to lose a big part of their navy. Chinese would take all they want in thr chinese sea if they lose their carriers and a big part of of their destroyers. Obama administration tried to focus more than half of the navy toward China.

On the opposite russia doesn't really care about its torpedo boats and corvettes. If the missiles they fire can destroy just one military ships, it's ok.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Isos wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

Hole wrote:The job of the russian navy is to defend her country, her ships are equipped accordingly, mostly with anti-ship missiles. Amiland has just 150 surface ships. If the are dumb enough to attack Russia, they will be destroyed.

If USN attacks Russia they will be destroyed. But not as a result of Russian surface fleet but predominantly by submarines, coastal missiles and airforce.

What local "experts" here are trying to pass off as reality is that Russian Navy will be taking on US Navy in direct surface combat away from Russian coast and not get obliterated.

Even if all Russian surface ships launch all their missiles (both AA and AShM) and every single one of them hits and destroys it's intended target there will still be enough US ships and aircraft left to erase Russian fleet from existence several times over in just one sitting.

Math. No going around it.

US can't afford to lose a big part of their navy. Chinese would take all they want in thr chinese sea if they lose their carriers and a big part of of their destroyers. Obama administration tried to focus more than half of the navy toward China.

On the opposite russia doesn't really care about its torpedo boats and corvettes. If the missiles they fire can destroy just one military ships, it's ok.

with russia current fleet, in an open blue water fight, they would never sink one carrier.

Don't bring up weapons they do not have yet and aren't on all of their ships, sorry but no Russia would get crushed in a blue water engagement, that is fact.

Russian navy isn't the Chinese navy so don't bring them up. The Chinese navy is much large and much better equipped than the Russians.