Aircraft Carrier Admiral Kuznetsov: News #2

hoom wrote:Wow, apparently during un-docking the drydock sank, crane hit K & did some damage but apparently mostly ok, possibly some injury/deaths on the drydock.

Edit:
http://www.mvestnik.ru/newslent/socseti-v-roslyakove-vo-vremya-vyhoda-avianosca-admiral-kuznecov-zatonul-plavuchij-dok/

At the 82nd shipyard in Roslyakov, the floating dock PD-50 sank, users of social networks report citing factory workers. There are people injured.

It is reported that on the night of October 30, during the departure of the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov from the dock, an emergency occurred. As a result, the dock itself sank, and a tower crane fell on the aircraft carrier. Information also appeared on the four victims. According to unconfirmed reports, workers could get into the water.

According to the relatives of one of the workers, a rescue operation is underway. Alarm services have been pulled to the scene.

http://www.mvestnik.ru/newslent/postradavshih-pri-zatoplenii-doka-v-roslyakovo-dostavili-v-bolnicu-s-pereohlazhdeniem/

The victims of the partial flooding of the floating dock in Roslyakovo were taken to hospital. In total at the moment it is reported about four victims. All of them got hypothermia, and one person also suffered an abdominal injury. This was announced by the head of the Murmansk Territorial Disaster Medicine Center, Viktor Rogalev.

The floating dock PD-50 in Murmansk, where the aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov is being repaired, partially sank at night on October 30 .

The source of the TASS agency in the emergency services said that the workers who had fallen as a result of the incident in the Kola Bay were saved.

hoom wrote:......
Gonna presumably need K out of the water to properly fix that & K doesn't fit in Severodvinsk basin so they'll have to either raise & repair or replace the dock (was built in Sweden) before they can fix K
May need a crash program to build a new floating dock if it can't be patched up.
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Tsavo Lion wrote:Do they have cranes powerful enough to raise the dock? If not, foreign help will be needed. ....

At most it was used for pilot training but even that is irrelevant now that Russia opted for STOVL aircraft development.

hoom wrote:

I figure a floating drydock should be a pretty good candidate for building in sections elsewhere & linking together onsite.

According to ppl at Balancer these big floating docks are built with the floor in several detachable sections & maintenance is done by dropping one out & bringing it aboard the dock.

So assuming its not an outright wreck the dock could be broken into the smaller bits, each bought to the surface & repaired separately then put back together on the water (assembly from bits might not be all that easy but I feel its doable).
Sides are a single piece but being fairly simple boxes should be no big issue to cut if needed for raising & then join back together/new sections built during repair.

Edit: via BMPD comments US recently got an 80,000ton floating drydock built in China for only $40mil, apparently only took a year from order to delivery
http://www.hegerdrydock.com/projects/floating12.html
Thats a US supplied design but I'm sure China wouldn't be above providing a slightly modified version/Russia could provide appropriate design.

Edit2: Last year Piraeus (Greece) also recieved an 80,000ton Chinese built floating dock.
https://www.amna.gr/en/anaxinhua/article/165691/Cosco-to-transport-new-floating-dry-dock-to-Perama-ship-repair-zone

Perhaps they could buy a drydock in China.

Nibiru wrote:

Perhaps they could buy a drydock in China.

Can't Russia just build a new improved drydock? how many more decades will it take for Russia to be able to built its own shipyards/ facilities without relying on foreign products or expertise.

GarryB wrote:
A Minor mishap and scrap a perfectly good ship...
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Tsavo Lion wrote:It's better than nothing, esp. when several European & Asian navies have carriers & r building more, aside from the 11 CVNs in the USN. Even if it'll spend most of its remaining life in port, at least they can maintain skills needed to repair, refit & modernize a carrier.

Tsavo Lion wrote:Would u throw out a nice fur coat after moving to Hawaii? Most people won't, as it may be useful in their future travels.

They also have 1600 crewmen and 620 air group staff tied to it 24/7 who don't contribute to defense needs. And they all cost money.