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    S-300/400 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #3

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    Post  GarryB Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:40 am

    s-350 missiles look rather capable but with active radar homing missiles that are quite big they will still be rather more expensive than TOR or Pantsir... especially against drones or munitions...

    It is certainly a clever way to increase missile numbers at a battery of course.
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    Post  Isos Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:32 pm

    It's not only meant to destroy PGM. It can still hit fighters at a good distance.

    The 300km range missiles of the S-400 won't be used at max range anyway against fighters. Specially against low flying targets where detection range is reduced to 40-50km then it's better to have a smaller missile with more rounds and better manoeuvrability.

    They will still keep pantsirs around them for PGMs.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:58 am

    The big S-400 missiles have ranges of 250km and 400km or thereabouts, but most cruise missiles literally cruise at medium altitudes to improve flight range so 200km from the target they might drop down and fly between 20-80m or so, but outside that range the chances of seeing them and shooting them down are quite good.
    The S-350 have the added advantage of ARH so they can be below the radar horizon at launch... as long as the target is in the field of view when it starts to scan it should still get a hit.

    I would suspect that for targets over the horizon the missile could transmit its radar view so the operator could select a target and perhaps launch more missiles at other targets revealed by that missiles ARH seeker.

    The S-350 has the 9M100 missiles for CIWS self defence, though I agree TOR and Pantsir would also be useful too.
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    Post  George1 Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:17 pm

    Two more regiments, re-equipped with S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems, took up combat duty

    On January 29, 2021, the 568th Red Banner anti-aircraft missile regiment (Samara region), re-equipped with S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems in 2020, took up combat duty.

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    Post  owais.usmani Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:18 am

    S-500

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    Post  Isos Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:46 am

    No it's not. It's wheeled s-300VM for protection of civilian infrastructures, bases or strategic points that are not on the frontline.
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    Post  owais.usmani Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:57 am

    Hmm, the twitter post from where I got this photo claimed it to be S-500. Do you have pics of S-300VM TEL? Isn't this model a bit larger than that?
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    Post  Isos Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:02 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:Hmm, the twitter post from where I got this photo claimed it to be S-500. Do you have pics of S-300VM TEL? Isn't this model a bit larger than that?

    This pic was posted by myself on s-300VM thread. You can go check there.

    It's not s-500. That's called Abakan missile system and uses the 9m82 missiles from the S-300VM/V4 missile system.

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    Post  Isos Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:46 pm

    9m96 launched from S-400.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:46 am

    Hmm, the twitter post from where I got this photo claimed it to be S-500. Do you have pics of S-300VM TEL? Isn't this model a bit larger than that?

    It is a wheeled upgraded version of the larger of the two SA-12 missiles... SA-12A and SA-12B... the smaller missile is a single row of four missiles on a tracked platform and the bigger missile that looks similar but seems to have a much bigger booster has a single row of two missiles on a tracked chassis.

    It is an Army system normally used to provide S-300 level protection for ground forces on the move so it is fully tracked system... which makes more mobile over short distances but less strategically mobile over long distances and also rather high operating costs.

    It is not S-500... as Lsos points out he posted those photos but obviously in the Russia Army section in a thread about the S-300V.

    @Lsos
    Nice new video of the 9M96... shame they cut off the first part... there is only a glimpse.

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