S-300/400 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #3

s-350 missiles look rather capable but with active radar homing missiles that are quite big they will still be rather more expensive than TOR or Pantsir... especially against drones or munitions...

It is certainly a clever way to increase missile numbers at a battery of course.

It's not only meant to destroy PGM. It can still hit fighters at a good distance.

The 300km range missiles of the S-400 won't be used at max range anyway against fighters. Specially against low flying targets where detection range is reduced to 40-50km then it's better to have a smaller missile with more rounds and better manoeuvrability.

They will still keep pantsirs around them for PGMs.

The big S-400 missiles have ranges of 250km and 400km or thereabouts, but most cruise missiles literally cruise at medium altitudes to improve flight range so 200km from the target they might drop down and fly between 20-80m or so, but outside that range the chances of seeing them and shooting them down are quite good.
The S-350 have the added advantage of ARH so they can be below the radar horizon at launch... as long as the target is in the field of view when it starts to scan it should still get a hit.

I would suspect that for targets over the horizon the missile could transmit its radar view so the operator could select a target and perhaps launch more missiles at other targets revealed by that missiles ARH seeker.

The S-350 has the 9M100 missiles for CIWS self defence, though I agree TOR and Pantsir would also be useful too.

Two more regiments, re-equipped with S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems, took up combat duty

On January 29, 2021, the 568th Red Banner anti-aircraft missile regiment (Samara region), re-equipped with S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems in 2020, took up combat duty.







https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4264263.html

S-500

No it's not. It's wheeled s-300VM for protection of civilian infrastructures, bases or strategic points that are not on the frontline.

Hmm, the twitter post from where I got this photo claimed it to be S-500. Do you have pics of S-300VM TEL? Isn't this model a bit larger than that?

owais.usmani wrote:Hmm, the twitter post from where I got this photo claimed it to be S-500. Do you have pics of S-300VM TEL? Isn't this model a bit larger than that?

This pic was posted by myself on s-300VM thread. You can go check there.

It's not s-500. That's called Abakan missile system and uses the 9m82 missiles from the S-300VM/V4 missile system.

9m96 launched from S-400.

Hmm, the twitter post from where I got this photo claimed it to be S-500. Do you have pics of S-300VM TEL? Isn't this model a bit larger than that?

It is a wheeled upgraded version of the larger of the two SA-12 missiles... SA-12A and SA-12B... the smaller missile is a single row of four missiles on a tracked platform and the bigger missile that looks similar but seems to have a much bigger booster has a single row of two missiles on a tracked chassis.

It is an Army system normally used to provide S-300 level protection for ground forces on the move so it is fully tracked system... which makes more mobile over short distances but less strategically mobile over long distances and also rather high operating costs.

It is not S-500... as Lsos points out he posted those photos but obviously in the Russia Army section in a thread about the S-300V.

@Lsos
Nice new video of the 9M96... shame they cut off the first part... there is only a glimpse.

Air defence in Sakhalin on the basis of the new air defense system S-400 Triumph completed. Reported by the Ministry of Defense.

https://en.topwar.ru/180750-minoborony-zavershilo-formirovanie-sistemy-pvo-sahalina.html

George1 wrote:Air defence in Sakhalin on the basis of the new air defense system S-400 Triumph completed. Reported by the Ministry of Defense.

https://en.topwar.ru/180750-minoborony-zavershilo-formirovanie-sistemy-pvo-sahalina.html

S-400 is also deployed on the Kuril Islands right?

The Ministry of Defense is thinking about creating new regiments for the "Prometheus"

The Russian Ministry of Defense is working on the issue of deploying the unique S-500 Prometheus anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM), in particular, they can equip new regiments or brigades. The first deliveries to the troops of complexes capable of destroying ballistic missiles and satellites will begin this year. The staff of the formations will be determined depending on the location and forces of a potential enemy, experts say.

Sources in the military department told Izvestia that the possibility is being considered not to re-equip existing military units with Prometheus, but to form new anti-aircraft regiments or brigades. At the same time, according to the interlocutors of the publication, it is possible that the formation of new units of the Ministry of Defense may refuse. Then "Prometheus" will receive the already operating military units.

The plans to deliver the first S-500 systems to the troops in 2021 were announced in December last year by the head of the Rostec corporation, Sergei Chemezov. According to him, the developer of Almaz-Antey has already completed all the necessary tests of the novelty.

Deputy Defense Minister Alexei Krivoruchko, who oversees the state defense order, also confirmed plans to complete the Prometheus tests in 2021 and put it into service immediately after that. At the same time, serial deliveries, he said, will begin in 2025.

Earlier, representatives of the Ministry of Defense stated that the S-500 would not replace the existing air defense and missile defense systems, but would supplement them. The mobile "five hundredth" will occupy an intermediate position between the S-400 "Triumph" and the stationary A-135, which will provide the defense of the Moscow region from attacks by intercontinental ballistic missiles.

The specialization of "Prometheus" will be mainly missile defense. The new system is designed to reliably intercept medium-range ballistic missiles at altitudes of several hundred kilometers. It will also retain the ability to destroy aircraft and hypersonic vehicles.

https://sawwnhdac36x4app5mw7rkbhgy--iz-ru.translate.goog/1141280/2021-03-24/v-minoborony-zadumalis-o-sozdanii-novykh-polkov-dlia-prometeev

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I would think it would make sense to boost the performance of S-400 batteries in critical locations like St Petersberg and Moscow and the major military port bases with S-500 first.

Mobile independent S-500 forces would be an interesting mobile force you could deploy to different locations as needed... if you had ICBM trains or trains carrying unlimited range nuclear powered cruise missiles then a carriage with S-350 and a carriage with S-500 would be interesting too...

And of course larger navy ships will likely deploy S-500 as well...

Launches of S-400 air defense missile systems at the Ashuluk training ground in the Astrakhan region

As Hole mentions, the transport containers are also their launch tubes and are not reused... when the missiles are used new launch tubes are loaded onto the TEL and the new missiles are ready to fire.

I peacetime they may recycle the launch tubes and send them back to the factory to be reused, but I doubt they would bother in war time.