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    Post  Regular Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:01 pm

    Too much western equipment for my taste, let's put this in that way. They should be banned by MOD to buy them at all. Especially when Russian companies make superior products. EOTech is completely shit sight especially mounted on AK-74, instead they should stick to Russian collimators and support local manufacturers, not to mention sad state that Russian optic industry went through. Can anyone explain me what's wrong with numerous indigenous helmets Russia already has, digital camo? Why should they make logistical nightmare instead of utilising what is already there. Really is there any logic in using those fancy sights in mountains? It won't make Your AK-74 a sniper rifle and snow and freezing temperatures will kill batteries in no time.

    34 mountain brigade.
    No bullshit imported equipment, just Chechen war experience under their belts.



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    Post  Zivo Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:55 pm

    A lot of their AKs have high-end Russian aftermarket parts. I've seen a few Spetsnaz guys whose furniture is worth more than the rifles themselves.

    Regarding digital camo, it is effective. I've got a Russian made SURPAT uniform from SRVV that I use on the range  and it's better built than any uniform I can find in the States. That says a lot about Russian manufacturing. None of these guys should have trouble finding good Russian made equipment.
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    Post  Cyberspec Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:39 am

    Regular wrote:
    34 mountain brigade.
    No bullshit imported equipment, just Chechen war experience under their belts.

    I'm aware of the 34th Mountain Brigade and it seems to be a fine unit, but they have different role compared to the SSO. Meaning the equipment will vary to a degree.
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    Post  SWAT Pointman Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:08 pm

    Regular wrote:Too much western equipment for my taste, let's put this in that way. They should be banned by MOD to buy them at all. Especially when Russian companies make superior products. EOTech is completely shit sight especially mounted on AK-74, instead they should stick to Russian collimators and support local manufacturers, not to mention sad state that Russian optic industry went through. Can anyone explain me what's wrong with numerous indigenous helmets Russia already has, digital camo? Why should they make logistical nightmare instead of utilising what is already there. Really is there any logic in using those fancy sights in mountains? It won't make Your AK-74 a sniper rifle and snow and freezing temperatures will kill batteries in no time.

    34 mountain brigade.
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    I wonder why they're using western equipment when they're very capable of making equipment that is equal to or superior to western equipment? I'm going to guess the Russian companies maybe weren't as capable as supplying the equipment they needed so they turned to buying western designs? The EO Tech is regarded as a very good sight. It is more difficult to shoot accurately with though on an AK-74 as it's mounted very high. The EO Tech was intended more for rifles with a high plane of sight like the M4. I suppose a cheek riser on the AK-74 largely solves this problem though.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:04 am

    I'm going to guess the Russian companies maybe weren't as capable as supplying the equipment they needed so they turned to buying western designs?

    Or the Russian weapon sight makers didn't want to get sued or lose access to western markets by directly copying the design and need some time to come out with their own "versions" of the sights.

    The only EO tech sights I have seen in shops here are very expensive.
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    Post  George1 Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:48 pm

    Does anyone have info on specific mountain warfare units of Russian army and VDV?
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    Post  Cyberspec Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:32 pm

    George1 wrote:Does anyone have info on specific mountain warfare units of Russian army and VDV?

    The 34th Motorised (Mountain) Brigade




    "two tower" had a feature on them back in 2011

    http://twower.livejournal.com/513546.html

    http://twower.livejournal.com/510949.html

    http://twower.livejournal.com/511859.html

    Next year the 55th Brigade is being established which will be a sister unit of the 34th Brigade.

    There's also a mountain warfare training center in the Caucasus where various units (usually scout type units) undertake mountain warfare courses
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    Post  George1 Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:51 am

    Special distinctions for mountain professionals established in the Russian army

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    Post  franco Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:25 am

    Newly formed 55th Mountain Brigade participating in the SCO Peace Mission 2016 in Kyrgyzstan. Photos and videos;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2142364.html
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    Post  George1 Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:46 pm

    Voennaa Razvedka (Razvedchiki Scouts)

    Some info on these units: "Military intelligence" personnel/units within larger formations in ground troops, airborne troops and marines. Intelligence battalion in the division, reconnaissance company in the brigade, a reconnaissance platoon in the regiment. The level of training is the same as Spetsnaz GRU but not controlled by the GRU.

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    Reconnaissance Large units and military Units

    The Reconnaissance Formations and military Units are often put into the Special Forces of the Land Force and designed to perform a wide range of tasks in order to provide commanders, staffs and headquarters with information about the enemy, terrain and weather condition for making the most rational decisions on operation (battle) and preventing surprises of the enemy’s actions.

    In the interests of the Land Force reconnaissance is carried out by organic reconnaissance subunits of combined-arms formations (motorised rifle and tank brigades), formations and units of special purpose, radio and electronic reconnaissance of army and military district sets, as well as reconnaissance units and subdivisions of the Arms and Special Forces of the Land Force.

    In preparation and during conducting of combined-arms operations (combat actions) they perform the following tasks:

    • disclosure of the enemy’s intention, its immediate preparations for aggression, and its surprise attack prevention;
    • identifying the troops (forces) of the enemy and its control system’s combat structure, position, grouping, status and capabilities;
    • disclosure of the objects (targets) for defeating and determination of their location (coordinates);
    • disclosure of the elements of the war theatre’s operational equipment, the terrains’ engineering equipment and the system of barriers;
    • determination of the degree of terrain’s passability, the state of communications, the nature of water barriers, the boundaries and the dimensions of areas of destruction, fires and floods, contamination areas, possible ways of overcoming them and turning movement around them;
    • identifying the enemy’s new weapons and methods of warfare, as well as its activities to ensure full operation (battle);
    • determination of the morale of the enemy’s troops and the local population, the economic status of the operation’s area, etc.

    Reconnaissance Formations and Units extract the necessary information about the enemy by the following main ways:

    • surveillance (tracking) and eavesdropping;
    • photographing (ground or air);
    • interception, technical analysis of radiation of electronic means and determination of objects’ coordinates;
    • conducting searches, raids, ambushes, reconnaissance in force;
    • survey of local residents, interrogation of prisoners and defectors;
    • studying the enemy’s documents, equipment and weapons captured.

    Further improvement of capabilities of the Reconnaissance Formations and Units is made by improving their organizational structure, equipping them with highly technical means of reconnaissance, including based on new physical principles, tactical systems of reconnaissance based on unmanned aerial vehicles, as well as with automation of data collection, processing of reconnaissance data and informing commanders and staffs about them in real time.

    http://eng.mil.ru/en/structure/forces/ground/structure/reconnaissance.htm

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