S-300/400/500 News [Russian Strategic Air Defense] #2

Moscow. 27 The regiment, consisting of two battalions of antiaircraft missile system (ZRS) C-400 will be adopted for the Air Forces of Russia in 2005, told Interfax-AVN, Acting Chief of the Air Force, Colonel-General Anatoly Nogovitsyn.

"In accordance with the state defense order, this year's planned adoption of the adopted one regiment-400. It will be located in the Moscow region", - said A. Nogovitsyn.

"Polk the first pilot, in his battle of the two divisions," - he said.

"C-400 is able to effectively destroy both existing, and to create ballistic missiles, small and medium-range missiles that will threaten the territory of the Russian Federation", - the general said, noting that the WLU "works great and ballistic targets, and an aerodynamic" .

According to A. Nogovitsyn, developed by Concern PVO Almaz-Antey S-400 - "a completely new system, when creating which has been applied a new approach - the principle of modularity. He explained that having a basic version of 4 types of missiles, C-400 has great potential for further modernization. In particular, the launcher of the new WLU unified under the standard of existing missiles old park, which are in service with S-300 systems."In the same volume and the overall weight and dimensions data we" fit in "all subsequent modules used rockets", - emphasized A. Nogovitsyn.

Due to the high degree of unification of the park one missile system S-400 will increase to six. S-400 missiles can destroy targets in near space - at altitudes up to 185 km, at a distance of 400-450 km, the general said, noting that WLU is capable to work on maritime and ground targets. "It is a new complex, noise-free, with high accuracy characteristics, including the possibility of targeting the aviation component," - he stressed.


"So, AAMS is a unified, no analogues in the world", - A. Nogovitsyn.

Now there are gosipytaniya system. With a full set of S-400 missiles will be adopted, tentatively, by 2008," - said A. Nogovitsyn.

Thus, in the course of the modernization of the cruiser "Admiral Nakhimov" Both SAM "Fort" will be further developed to the level of SAM "Fort-M" (which currently exists in a single copy in the form of a nasal installation "Peter the Great"), the turret launchers B-203A will probably have to be made ​​for the possibility of work using new types of missiles. Among the types of missiles that will be used in the "new" SAM how to use even the first two cruisers Project 1144/11442 5V5RM and entered service "Nakhimov" (then - "Kalinin") 48N6K and naval version from the foundation of SAM With -400 - 48N6DMK with an active radar seeker and a range of up to 250 km.

S-400 AA missile system has been put on air defence combat duty at the Hmeymim airbase

max steel wrote:
Any reason why didn't they use S-300 variants or S-2500 why S-400 ?


I know it's a golden opportunity to test it in real warfare but still why not those ^ ? ( One of Ship is using S-300F )

max steel wrote:By sitting in Syria with S-400 that too with the russian version not export version NATO might be  gathering intel on how to counter the S-400. Russia will also be doing ELINT on all coalition and Israel. Israel radars will also be turned on. Syria is the best real estate in Middleast now.

par far wrote:

max steel wrote:By sitting in Syria with S-400 that too with the russian version not export version NATO might be  gathering intel on how to counter the S-400. Russia will also be doing ELINT on all coalition and Israel. Israel radars will also be turned on. Syria is the best real estate in Middleast now.

I don't get what was the purpose of sending the S 400 to Syria? They could have just sent the S 300 or other S 300 variant.

max steel wrote:

par far wrote:

max steel wrote:By sitting in Syria with S-400 that too with the russian version not export version NATO might be  gathering intel on how to counter the S-400. Russia will also be doing ELINT on all coalition and Israel. Israel radars will also be turned on. Syria is the best real estate in Middleast now.

I don't get what was the purpose of sending the S 400 to Syria? They could have just sent the S 300 or other S 300 variant.

Read my 1st post above, that's what I said. Maybe Range issues or to test its complexity in such a complex hot war.

Viktor wrote:The most important thing is the speed of delivery and putting the S-400 in the operation.

The distance could not be less than few thousand km and it took Russia less than 24 hours

Comparing with the time needed to deploy Patriot missile batteryies from Germany /Netherland to Turkey for which it took 3 or 4 months to become operational

strategic mobility of S-400 system is unparalleled.

par far wrote:

max steel wrote:By sitting in Syria with S-400 that too with the russian version not export version NATO might be  gathering intel on how to counter the S-400. Russia will also be doing ELINT on all coalition and Israel. Israel radars will also be turned on. Syria is the best real estate in Middleast now.

I don't get what was the purpose of sending the S 400 to Syria? They could have just sent the S 300 or other S 300 variant.

GarryB wrote:It calls it a modernised missile so perhaps it refers to the S-350 which is an evolution of the two smaller S-400 missiles rather than a brand new design like the S-500.

max steel wrote:Radars and EW systems have multiple operating modes. The most commonly used mode is the training/peacetime mode which provides basic functionality. Then there are wartime/contingency modes which use sophisticated, closely guarded techniques.  NATO, like they couldn't have done the same thing with the S-400's stationed in Kaliningrad in a far more hostile SIGINT enviroment.

Just because an S-400 is deployed doesn't mean anyone will learn about all its features and operating modes.The S-400 will likely operate in strict EMCON rules. 92N6 radar which i believe would be the most interesting part for ELINT may only radiate if need arise. Most of the time it won't radiate and stay in standby.

Most of the early warning will come from already existing radar.


I've more doubts , help me out pointwise :

1)How it will counter if these f-16 carry HARM , each F-16 can carry 4 HARMs , if these were 30 F-16 they could carry a total of 120 HARMs , that is 120 missiles moving at speed > mach 2 ?

2)What is the minimum engagement altitude for the S-400. I do not think that Almaz-Antey has ever released a minimum engagement altitude for the S-400,but would expect it to be in the region of 10 m. ( If they fire HARM at ultra low altitude ?)

3) I have seen no reports that the S-400 has the equivalent of a US-style 'launch on remote' capability, so the engagement radar would probably still have to be used ?

4)we may seen the system's 92N6 engagement radar being used in a fairly aggressive manner to illuminate Turkish aircraft operating in the area. So the Turks (with a bit of help from other NATO nations?) may be able to devise flight patterns that will explore the tracking capabilities of the 92N6 ?


5)In the 1960s the S-75 (SA-2) radiated all of its secrets - when the US finally acquired a 'Fan Song' radar, its EW community was delighted to discover that the SA-2 emulator it had devised for EW development purposes had reproduced the features and technology of the Soviet original in all but a few minor respects .The US / NATO / Israeli EW operators had actually assigned individual identities to specific Fan Song installations based on the dents on their antennas! When they moved they could follow them individually.