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    Post  kvs Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:45 pm

    PhSt wrote:All these Degeneration thats happening in NATzO countries is good but when can we see these countries get Bifurcated for good?? Seeing how NATzO can still incite insurrection in Russia while their countries are rotting from the inside is puzzling. Russia needs to take advantage of this situation and provoke insurrection within NATzO as well.

    I agree up to a point. But these joke crowds in Russia are not enough to boostrap any regime change. They only serve
    western propaganda narratives. Russia does not have the US police state order that would enable a total lockdown
    so Putin can't snap his fingers and force everyone to stay at home. If these rent-a-crowd clowns were in fear of being
    machine gunned into the afterlife they would stay way.

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    Post  elconquistador Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:20 am

    Incredibly funny rant by Alex Jones. And incredibly spot on as well.

    It's also very telling of the low spirits on the Right right now. Demoralised, defeated and lacking guidance. The awareness that this decades long decline has now reached a point where it will just roll off a cliff with no brakes is very prevalent

    Aside from the clear controlled opposition guys of course, like Bannon. They are now talking about the 2022/2024 election cycles, trying to keep people on the plantation. LOL

    The video:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JoshLekach/status/1351752659372367874

    'IT'S ALL OVER MAAAAAN'
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:45 am

    elconquistador wrote:Incredibly funny rant by Alex Jones. And incredibly spot on as well.

    It's also very telling of the low spirits on the Right right now. Demoralised, defeated and lacking guidance. The awareness that this decades long decline has now reached a point where it will just roll off a cliff with no brakes is very prevalent...

    Well they could always ask that orange dude to set up a new political party

    I hear that he has some pull with segment of the electorate

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    Post  thegopnik Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:46 am

    Article on the future growth of Russia https://qr.ae/pNlg6t I bet they would not be willing to have this information read on everyone's news feed Laughing
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    Post  elconquistador Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:55 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    elconquistador wrote:Incredibly funny rant by Alex Jones. And incredibly spot on as well.

    It's also very telling of the low spirits on the Right right now. Demoralised, defeated and lacking guidance. The awareness that this decades long decline has now reached a point where it will just roll off a cliff with no brakes is very prevalent...

    Well they could always ask that orange dude to set up a new political party

    I hear that he has some pull with segment of the electorate


    And what would that accomplish?

    There won't be a beatable system in place in 4 years time

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:04 am


    What USA is experiencing now may seem drastic from where you are sitting bu the world has been doing it for ages and several times already

    It's harder for you now because you have been putting it off for so long but if you want results you will have to strap in for the long haul since this could take more than one election cycle

    As long as you let two parties run the show you will always be the outsiders and fringe (just look at Trump, even being a president didn't change anything for him)

    First order of business should be to organize third party (real one) and win some Congress and Senate seats

    Once you have that you work your way up




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    Post  elconquistador Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:30 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    What USA is experiencing now may seem drastic from where you are sitting bu the world has been doing it for ages and several times already

    It's harder for you now because you have been putting it off for so long but if you want results you will have to strap in for the long haul since this could take more than one election cycle

    As long as you let two parties run the show you will always be the outsiders and fringe (just look at Trump, even being a president didn't change anything for him)

    First order of business should be to organize third party (real one) and win some Congress and Senate seats

    Once you have that you work your way up


    Arguing over political strategies is at this point a waste of time. The demographic, monetary, socio-economic and cultural tendencies of the last 60-80 years are at this point irreversible and will only accelerate.

    The last outsiders in the US political system to potentially reverse these trends instead of just slowing them down were Ross Perot and Pat Buchanan in the 90s. I could write a 15000 lettered post about the causes, dynamics, timeline of it all but that would be a waste of time.

    What we are now experiencing is nothing but death throes. At this point it's only a question whether the US will become a full on neo-liberal Trotzkyist totalitarianist state (anarcho-tyranny/The Great Reset) or will experience large scale civil strife, secession movements and in the end tribalisation/ the break up of US society.

    My bet is on the first

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    Post  AlfaT8 Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:08 am

    Yea, America is pretty much over, they are now entering the Post-Democracy era, where the only thing that matters is who counts the votes.

    The Demographic situation was always gonna F them sideways and turn their country into a S.American/African sh%tshow.
    I honestly thought they had a bit more time, but the Republicans went Full Judas and Tiberius Gracchus'd the hell out of Trump and in turn his supporters, then got on their knees and begged the Dems for forgiveness.
    Like WTF man!! Rolling Eyes  clown

    For now, i keep telling everyone that talks about this to get their local elections in order, since those aren't completely compromised yet, so that if the time comes they can try and protect them from the jackboots that are gonna be on the march, in short, something like the No-Go Zone strategy.

    The entire thing with the migrants was to have a growing tax base to fund the welfare state, this in turn caused the fertility decline, because women voted for the government to take care of them, and now they don't need no man.
    So welfare and Suffrage are the root causes of the Wests decline.

    I do have some hope for a new party, but yea it's gonna be one hell of an uphill battle.

    As for elconquistador question, my money's on both.

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    Post  elconquistador Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:55 am

    Well during the BLM/antifa riots tens of churches throughout the country were burned down and 'arson was suspected'

    Close to zero media outrage of course, they were just churches and not mosques or, even worse, synagogues.

    But it seems we have no hit a new low as attendants of the First Baptist Church in California (spiritual leader Stephen Anderson, is not very gay friendly) are now routinely harassed when they enter and leave the church. In the video below you can see the gaylords, some of which seem to be demonically possessed.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BaptistFren/status/1351011282351226881

    Yesterday the church was bombed with a homemade explosive.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BaptistFren/status/1353056756234997765?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1353056756234997765%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
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    Post  elconquistador Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:11 am

    Great Britain is the first to top the 100 genders mark

    Talk about winning and talk about breaking glass ceilings!

    The BBC will make this movie available to all 9 - 12 year olds currently receiving at home education. According to the video transgenderism is 'a way to be happy'

    At best 1-2 years away from garbage like this becoming mandatory educational material, but that's speculation

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9179703/BBC-programme-tells-9-year-olds-100-genders.html



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    Post  andalusia Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:16 am

    kvs wrote:

    Thomas Sowell says information people need to hear before they generalize and follow their political preferences.
    The degeneration in America is deep.   And the self-anointed BLM-loving do-gooders are enabling the rot.   The
    victim subculture that has emerged since the 1960s (from whatever precursors) is literally reducing the IQ of
    people in the black community and for that matter in the white community.   If you are blaming your problems
    on everyone but yourself you are a de facto low IQ loser.   Nobody is a slave or a serf in the USA.  And even
    if people are "wage slaves" that does not justify wallowing in victimhood and stopping from trying.   Don't expect
    to live an easy life if you can't be bothered to try in school and in life.   Shooting up the neighbourhood while
    pushing narcotics does not make you a resistance hero, it makes you a maggot.

    kvs: While this is a good video of Sowell critiquing the Black American victim mentality, do you know that he is a neo-liberal libertarian economist who is a follower of Milton Friedman? I know you are a critic of libertarian economics but was just wondering if you knew that? He is also a big supporter of American foreign policy that is rightly criticized on this forum.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/02/08/undermining_allies_108805.html


    https://thedailyknell.wordpress.com/2012/09/24/analyzing-austrian-economics-memes-who-benefits-from-the-anarcho-capitalist-utopia/?fbclid=IwAR3D1YybN_goX75nYh89VhE3OzpX8vbT5PVw-EClP64If4dLwQq7sddG6t8

    https://thedailyknell.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/the-mont-pelerin-society-the-ultimate-neoliberal-trojan-horse/?fbclid=IwAR3jceBURGiz06sYB-xQK6egLbt1InwxRSwudvdhAudUn86yh1e70qtkH14
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    Post  elconquistador Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:31 am

    andalusia wrote:
    kvs wrote:

    Thomas Sowell says information people need to hear before they generalize and follow their political preferences.
    The degeneration in America is deep.   And the self-anointed BLM-loving do-gooders are enabling the rot.   The
    victim subculture that has emerged since the 1960s (from whatever precursors) is literally reducing the IQ of
    people in the black community and for that matter in the white community.   If you are blaming your problems
    on everyone but yourself you are a de facto low IQ loser.   Nobody is a slave or a serf in the USA.  And even
    if people are "wage slaves" that does not justify wallowing in victimhood and stopping from trying.   Don't expect
    to live an easy life if you can't be bothered to try in school and in life.   Shooting up the neighbourhood while
    pushing narcotics does not make you a resistance hero, it makes you a maggot.

    kvs: While this is a good video of Sowell critiquing the Black American victim mentality, do you know that he is a neo-liberal libertarian economist who is a follower of Milton Friedman? I know you are a critic of libertarian economics but was just wondering if you knew that? He is also a big supporter of American foreign policy that is rightly criticized on this forum.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/02/08/undermining_allies_108805.html


    https://thedailyknell.wordpress.com/2012/09/24/analyzing-austrian-economics-memes-who-benefits-from-the-anarcho-capitalist-utopia/?fbclid=IwAR3D1YybN_goX75nYh89VhE3OzpX8vbT5PVw-EClP64If4dLwQq7sddG6t8

    https://thedailyknell.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/the-mont-pelerin-society-the-ultimate-neoliberal-trojan-horse/?fbclid=IwAR3jceBURGiz06sYB-xQK6egLbt1InwxRSwudvdhAudUn86yh1e70qtkH14

    The decay of the Black American community into decay and misery is a straight up intentional effect.

    In the 60s the Black Panthers and Black Nationalism in general started to worry TPTB so the government came up with policies that destroyed the Black family whilst the CIA destroyed the traditional image of manhood/masculinity through psyops.

    From less than 5 percent illegitimate births to ~80-90 percent (all through enabling female hypergamy and making the Black females dependent on the State instead of the Man)

    From welldressed, Conservative family oriented communities to high T gangster rappers with a criminal record as thick as the Bible and 5 baby mammas (through CIA psyops elevating the latter)

    As of 2021 the US Black community is totally beyond repair. The genepool in these inner cities has regressed so much that you'd need a 3 generation long breeding program to get anything going again. The culture is even worse.

    Blacks are and will forever remain on the plantation. They are beyond saving. They will until forever be weaponised against the White part of the population by TPTB and the inner city getto culture will be exported abroad to subvert and destroy the young generations of previously healthy cultures.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:37 am

    Had a friend who was raped... everyone told her her life was over, but she didn't let it end her life and she moved on.

    Don't write people off... you will be surprised.
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    Post  AlfaT8 Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:54 pm

    elconquistador wrote:The decay of the Black American community into decay and misery is a straight up intentional effect.

    In the 60s the Black Panthers and Black Nationalism in general started to worry TPTB so the government came up with policies that destroyed the Black family whilst the CIA destroyed the traditional image of manhood/masculinity through psyops.

    From less than 5 percent illegitimate births to ~80-90 percent (all through enabling female hypergamy and making the Black females dependent on the State instead of the Man)

    From welldressed, Conservative family oriented communities to high T gangster rappers with a criminal record as thick as the Bible and 5 baby mammas (through CIA psyops elevating the latter)

    As of 2021 the US Black community is totally beyond repair. The genepool in these inner cities has regressed so much that you'd need a 3 generation long breeding program to get anything going again. The culture is even worse.

    Blacks are and will forever remain on the plantation. They are beyond saving. They will until forever be weaponised against the White part of the population by TPTB and the inner city getto culture will be exported abroad to subvert and destroy the young generations of previously healthy cultures.

    It was welfare, as soon as Black women got the welfare in 1964's War on Poverty, single motherhood went off the rails, it wasn't just a simple PsyOp.
    When single motherhood became incentivized, that's when things got real bad.

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    Yea, the American Black community is completely lost, the only way to reform them is to send them elsewhere to other countries, where their victim mentality won't work, because they are not in the U.S., where their core community is.
    Abraham Lincoln was correct.

    And yea, they will keep voting for the Left, because of welfare and some silly nonsense about voting against the Whites, Blacks do this a lot.
    Even where i live, they just keep voting against us, just because of some perceived Racism nonsense, tribal instincts i guess.
    But it totally F's our elections.

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    Post  elconquistador Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:00 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    elconquistador wrote:The decay of the Black American community into decay and misery is a straight up intentional effect.

    In the 60s the Black Panthers and Black Nationalism in general started to worry TPTB so the government came up with policies that destroyed the Black family whilst the CIA destroyed the traditional image of manhood/masculinity through psyops.

    From less than 5 percent illegitimate births to ~80-90 percent (all through enabling female hypergamy and making the Black females dependent on the State instead of the Man)

    From welldressed, Conservative family oriented communities to high T gangster rappers with a criminal record as thick as the Bible and 5 baby mammas (through CIA psyops elevating the latter)

    As of 2021 the US Black community is totally beyond repair. The genepool in these inner cities has regressed so much that you'd need a 3 generation long breeding program to get anything going again. The culture is even worse.

    Blacks are and will forever remain on the plantation. They are beyond saving. They will until forever be weaponised against the White part of the population by TPTB and the inner city getto culture will be exported abroad to subvert and destroy the young generations of previously healthy cultures.

    It was welfare, as soon as Black women got the welfare in 1964's War on Poverty, single motherhood went off the rails, it wasn't just a simple PsyOp.
    When single motherhood became incentivized, that's when things got real bad.

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    Yea, the American Black community is completely lost, the only way to reform them is to send them elsewhere to other countries, where their victim mentality won't work, because they are not in the U.S., where their core community is.
    Abraham Lincoln was correct.

    And yea, they will keep voting for the Left, because of welfare and some silly nonsense about voting against the Whites, Blacks do this a lot.
    Even where i live, they just keep voting against us, just because of some perceived Racism nonsense, tribal instincts i guess.
    But it totally F's our elections.

    The elevation of the hip-hopping, golden brace wearing thug as the epitome of success and status in Black communities definitely was a CIA psyop and is a direct result of the rise of militant, segregationist, Black nationalist tendencies in the community (most notably the Black Panthers)

    And I agree with the rest. I usually don't associate with Blacks because the attitude and hostility get very tiring very quickly - the older generation being the exception here. The Black ladies are as easy as they come though, another symptom of their inbuilt inferiority complex.

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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:59 pm

    @andalusia

    I know that Sowell is aligned with the US right. But I do not judge what he says on this basis. I listen to his arguments and
    decide if I agree or not. Sowell is a real intellectual who has legitimate points to make. He cannot be dismissed out of hand.
    But many so-called leftists are indeed trash and not worth the time of day.


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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:41 pm



    This is the sort of brainwashing that children in the "normal" west are being subjected to.

    The so-called gender pay gap is not being demonstrated in these retarded games for kids.   Men and women are not
    rewarded differently by law since the 1960s and earlier.   The aggregate pay "gap" reflects female job choices.
    If more women work in jobs that pay less than men, then there is a "gap".  But this is not discrimination.   Nobody
    forces women to work in lower paying jobs that typically avoid physical exertion and risk.  

    The zealots who want the aggregate incomes of males and females to be identical are now pushing for over-compensation
    for females.   In other words, reverse discrimination.  To fix a non-existent problem, these clowns want to create real
    problems.
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    Post  AlfaT8 Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:48 am

    Just Wow.

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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:07 am

    The western elites have not given up on China as part of their new order collective. They still hope to pull a Kissinger and
    proceed with the 1% feudal lords and 99% serfs/slaves on the plantation plan. This actually does include deleting 80%
    of the world's population. To save the environment...

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    Post  elconquistador Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:02 am

    kvs wrote:The western elites have not given up on China as part of their new order collective. They still hope to pull a Kissinger and
    proceed with the 1% feudal lords and 99% serfs/slaves on the plantation plan. This actually does include deleting 80%
    of the world's population. To save the environment...


    I feel quite convinced that China is playing the globalists, even though they could technically be considered 'globalists' themselves (but with the Party at the top instead)

    No way they are on board with giving up their industrial basis, their population and their monetary freedom

    Bytheway has anyone heard of that Alibaba guy (Jack Ma). Word on the street is that he has been sent to the naughty boy corner for his push for economic liberalisation/ his links to the Jiang Zemin Clique (which in turn is rumoured to be linked to the WEF/Davos crowd) .
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    Post  kvs Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:49 pm

    I agree that China has too much pride to whore itself to western elites. It already had to do this starting in the 1980s
    and until after 2000. But it has an ignited economy and does not need to play second fiddle to white devils. Slowly
    the sweatshops are disappearing and Chinese workers are getting paid a living wage. That is driving the move by
    western sweatshop operations to poorer countries. But China's GDP growth is driven by internal demand and not
    banana republic style exports so it is not going to fizzle away because some sweatshops moved out.

    But I see way too much fawning in the west over China. China does not get the hate spew that Russia gets. Given
    that China is a nominally bigger competitor to western businesses, this does not make sense. Of course, the hate
    for Russia could be simple dementia and not realpolitik. However, I think that China was supposed to be some sort
    of key cog in the new global order that went off the rails after 2000.

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    Post  elconquistador Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:28 am

    This is Xi's speech in Davos (virtually)

    Not really sure what to think of it..

    Four years ago, at Davos in Switzerland, Chinese president Xi Jinping defended globalization and anointed himself its leader and protector.

    It was the first time a Chinese leader had addressed the glitzy gathering of the global elite, and it made a lasting impression, coming just a few days before Donald Trump’s inauguration as US president, and the beginning of an American pivot away from multilateral institutions and the global system.

    Today (Jan. 25), Xi addressed Davos once again, but this time on video. He brought up some of the same themes from his 2017 speech, including multilateralism and climate change. Without mentioning Trump by name, Xi criticized the former US president’s trade war with China. And without naming the US or Joe Biden, he predicted that a conflict between Beijing and Washington would be bad for everyone.

    Xi called for global collaboration on climate change, public health, technology, and saving the global economy. China is in pole position to lead on some of these issues. It recently made an ambitious pledge to become carbon-neutral by 2060, and its economy is recovering much faster than others: It grew 2.3% in 2020, the only major economy to do so, and is expected to expand 7.9% this year.

    He said international institutions, including the World Health Organization, should be strengthened, and called for more collaboration on vaccines and help for developing nations. And he warned other countries not to “meddle” in China’s affairs, a phrase often used to describe international condemnation of Beijing’s actions in Hong Kong, Xinjiang, Taiwan, or Tibet.

    Xi’s speech may have sounded similar to the one he gave four years ago, but the context has massively changed. The pandemic has sparked a backlash against China among some Western nations. And after four years of Trump, China is hoping that Joe Biden’s administration will be more amenable to restoring relations, rather than continuing its predecessor’s trade war.

    In a key reference to the US and its allies’ responses to China, Xi said that “to build small circles, or…wilfully impose decoupling, supply disruption, or sanctions…will only push the world into division and even confrontation.” (The Trump administration sanctioned officials in Hong Kong, while Biden has expressed support for a club of democracies that includes India, South Korea, and Australia.)

    You can watch Xi’s speech here, and a full transcript follows, with some significant passages in bold:

    Ladies and gentlemen, friends,

    The past year was marked by the sudden onslaught of the Covid-19 pandemic. Global public health faced a severe threat, and the world economy was mired in a deep recession. Humanity encountered multiple crises rarely seen in human history.

    The past year also bore witness to the enormous resolve and courage of people around the world in battling the deadly coronavirus. Guided by science, reason, and a humanitarian spirit, the world has achieved initial progress in fighting Covid-19.

    That said, the pandemic is far from over. The recent resurgence of Covid cases reminds us that we must carry on the fight. Yet we remain convinced that winter cannot stop the arrival of spring and darkness can never shroud the light of dawn. There is no doubt that humanity will prevail over the virus and emerge even stronger from this disaster.

    Ladies and gentlemen, friends,

    History is moving forward and the world will not go back to what it was in the past. Every choice or move we make today will shape the world of the future. It is important that we properly address the four major tasks facing people of our times.

    The first is to step up macroeconomic policy coordination and jointly promote strong, sustainable, balanced, and inclusive growth of the world economy. We are going through the worst recession since the end of World War II. For the first time in history, the economies of all regions have been hit hard at the same time, with global industrial and supply chains clogged, and trade and investment down in the doldrums. Despite the trillions of dollars in relief packages worldwide, global recovery is rather shaky, and the outlook remains uncertain. We need to focus on current priorities and balance Covid response with economic development. Macroeconomic policy support should be stepped up to bring the world economy out of the woods as early as possible. Far more important, we need to look beyond the horizon and strengthen our will and resolve for change. We need to shift the driving forces and the growth models of the global economy and improve its structure, so as to set the course for long term, sound, and steady development of the world economy.

    The second is to abandon ideological prejudice and jointly follow a path of peaceful coexistence, mutual benefit, and win-win cooperation. No two leaves in the world are identical and no histories, cultures, or social systems are the same. Each country is unique, with its own history, culture, and social system, and none is superior to the other. The best criteria are whether the country’s history, culture, and social system fit its particular situation, enjoy people’s support, serve to deliver political stability, social progress, and better lives, and contribute to human progress. The different histories, cultures, and social systems are as old as human societies and they are the inherent features of human civilization. There will be no human civilization without diversity, and such diversity will continue to exist for as long as we can imagine. Difference in itself is no cause for alarm. What does bring alarm is arrogance, prejudice, and hatred. It is the attempt to impose hierarchy on human civilization, or to force one’s own history, culture, and social system upon others. The right choice is for countries to pursue peaceful coexistence based on mutual respect, and only finding common ground, while shelving differences, and to promote exchanges and mutual learning. This is the way to add impetus to the progress of human civilization.

    The third is to close the divide between developed and developing countries and jointly bring about growth and prosperity for all. Today, inequality continues to grow, the North-South gap remains to be bridged, and sustainable development faces severe challenges. As countries grapple with the pandemic, their economic recoveries are following divergent trajectories, and the North-South gap risks further widening and even perpetuation. For developing countries, they’re aspiring for more resources and space for development, and they’re calling for stronger representation and voice in global economic governance. We should recognize that with the growth of developing countries, global prosperity and stability will be put on a more solid footing, and developed countries will stand to benefit from such growth. The international community should keep its eyes on the long run, honor its commitment to provide necessary support to developing countries and safeguard their legitimate development interests. Equal rights, equal opportunities, and equal rules should be strengthened so that all countries will benefit from the opportunities and the fruits of development.

    The fourth is to come together against global challenges and jointly create a better future for humanity. In the era of economic globalization, public health emergencies like Covid-19 may very well occur, and global public health governance needs to be honest.

    The earth is our one and only home. To scale up efforts to address climate change and promote sustainable development bears on the future of humanity. No global problem can be solved by any one country alone. There must be global action, a global response, and global cooperation.

    Ladies and gentlemen, friends,

    The problems facing the world are intricate and complex. The way out of them is through upholding multilateralism and building a community with a shared future for mankind.

    First, we should stay committed to openness and inclusiveness instead of closedness and exclusion. Multilateralism is about having international affairs addressed through consultation, and the future of the world decided by everyone working together. To build small circles, or start a new Cold War; to reject, threaten, or intimidate others; to wilfully impose decoupling, supply disruption, or sanctions; and to create isolation or estrangement, will only push the world into division and even confrontation. We cannot tackle common challenges in a divided world. Confrontation will lead us to a dead end. Humanity has learned lessons the hard way and that history is not long gone. We must not return to the path of the past. The right approach is to act on the vision of a community with a shared future for mankind. We should uphold the common values of humanity, namely peace, development, equity, justice, democracy, and freedom, rise above ideological prejudice, make the mechanisms, principles, and policies of our cooperation as open and inclusive as possible, and jointly safeguard world peace and stability. We should build an open world economy, uphold the multilateral trading regime, discard discriminatory and exclusionary standards, rules, and systems, and take down barriers to trade, investment, and technological exchanges. We should strengthen the G20 as a premier forum for global economic governance, engage in closer macroeconomic policy coordination, and keep the global industrial and supply chains stable and open. We should ensure the sound operation of the global financial system, promote structural reform, and expand global aggregate demand, in an effort to strive for higher quality and stronger resilience in global economic development.

    Second, we should stay committed to international law and international rules instead of seeking one’s own supremacy. Ancient Chinese believed that the law is the very foundation of governance. International governance should be based on the rules and consensus reached among us, not on the order given by one or the few. The Charter of the United Nations is a basic and universally recognized norms governing state-to-state relations. Without international law and international rules that are formed and recognized by the global community, the world may fall back to the law of the jungle and the consequence would be devastating for humanity. We need to be resolute in championing the international rule of law and steadfast in our resolve to safeguard the international system centered around the UN and the international order based on international law. Multilateral institutions, which provide the platform for putting multilateralism into action, and which are the basic architecture underpinning multilateralism, should have their authority and effectiveness safeguarded. State-to-state relations should be coordinated and regulated through proper institutions and rules. The strong should not bully the weak. Decisions should not be made by simply showing off strong muscles or waving a big fist. Multilateralism should not be used as a pretext for acts of unilateralism. The principles should be preserved and rules, once made, should be followed by all. Selective multilateralism should not be our option.

    Third, we should stay committed to consultation and cooperation instead of conflict and confrontation. Differences in history, culture, and social systems should not be an excuse for antagonism or confrontation, but rather an incentive for cooperation. We should respect and accommodate differences, avoid meddling in other countries’ internal affairs, and resolve disagreements through consultation and dialogue. History and reality have made it clear time and again that the misguided approach of antagonism and confrontation, be it in the form of Cold War, hot war, trade war, or tech war, would eventually hurt all countries’ interests and undermine everyone’s well-being. We should reject the outdated Cold War, zero sum game mentality, adhere to mutual respect and accommodation, and enhance political trust through strategic communications. It is important that we stick to the cooperation concept, based on mutual benefits, say no to narrow-minded, selfish, beggar-thy-neighbor policies, and stop the unilateral practice of keeping advantages in development all to oneself. Equal rights should be guaranteed for all countries to promote common development and prosperity. We should advocate fair competition, like competing with each other for accidents in the racing field, not beating each other on a wrestling arena.

    Fourth, we should stay committed to keeping up with the times instead of rejecting change. The world is undergoing changes unseen in the century, and now’s the time for major development and major transformation. To uphold multilateralism in 21st century, we should promote its fine tradition, take on new perspectives, and look to the future. We need to stand by the core values and the basic principles of multilateralism. We also need to adapt to the changing international landscape and respond to global challenges as they arise. We need to reform and improve the global governance system, on the basis of extensive consultation and consensus-building. We need to give full play to the role of the World Health Organization in building a global community of health for all. We need to advance reform of the World Trade Organization and the international financial and monetary system in a way that boosts global economic growth and protects the development, rights, interests, and opportunities of developing countries. We need to follow a people-centered and fact-based policy orientation, exploring and formulating rules on global digital governance. We need to deliver on the Paris Agreement on Climate Change and promote green development. We need to give continued priority to development, implement the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development, and make sure that all countries, especially developing ones, share in the fruits of global development.

    Ladies and gentlemen, friends,

    After decades of strenuous efforts from the Chinese people, China is on course to finish building a moderately-prosperous society in all respects. We have made historic gains in ending extreme poverty and have embarked on a new journey towards fully building a modern socialist country. As China enters a new development stage, we will follow a new development philosophy and foster a new development paradigm, with domestic circulation as the mainstay, and domestic and international circulations reinforcing each other. China will work with other countries to build an open, inclusive, clean, and beautiful world that enjoys lasting peace, universal security, and common prosperity.

    China will continue to take an active part in international cooperation on Covid-19. Containing the coronavirus is the most pressing task for the international community. This is because people and their lives must always be put before anything else. It is also what it takes to stabilize and revive the economy. Closer solidarity and cooperation, more information-sharing, and a stronger global response are what we need to defeat Covid-19 across the world. It is especially important to scale up cooperation on the R & D production and distribution of vaccines and make them public goods that are truly accessible and affordable to people in all countries. By now, China has provided assistance to over 150 countries and 13 international organizations, sent 36 medical expert teams to countries in need, and stayed strongly supportive and actively engaged in international cooperation on Covid vaccines. China will continue to share its experience with other countries, do its best to assist countries and regions that are less prepared for the pandemic, and work for greater accessibility and affordability of Covid vaccines in developing countries.

    We hope these efforts will contribute to an early and complete victory over the coronavirus throughout the world. China will continue to implement a win-win strategy of opening up. Economic globalization meets the needs of growing social productivity, and is a natural outcome of scientific and technological advancement. It serves no one’s interest to use the pandemic as an excuse to reverse globalization and go for seclusion and decoupling. As a long-standing supporter of economic globalization, China is committed to following through on its fundamental policy of opening up. China will continue to promote trade and investment liberalization and facilitation, help keep the global industrial and supply chains smooth and stable, and advance high-quality Belt and Road cooperation. China will promote institutional opening that covers rules and regulations, management, and standards, foster a business environment that is based on market principles, governed by law, and up to international standards, and unleash the potential of the huge China market and enormous domestic demand. We hope these efforts will bring more cooperation opportunities to other countries and give further impetus to global economic recovery and growth.

    China will continue to promote sustainable development. China will fully implement the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development. It will do more on the ecological front by transforming and improving its industrial structure and energy mix at a faster pace and promoting a green, low-carbon way of life and production.

    I have announced China’s goal of striving to peak carbon dioxide emissions before 2030 and achieve carbon neutrality before 2060. These targets will require tremendous hard work from China. Yet we believe that when the interests of the entire humanity are at stake, China must step forward, take action, and get the job done. China is drawing up action plans and taking specific measures already to make sure we meet the set targets. We are doing this as a concrete action to uphold multilateral and as a contribution to protecting our shared home and realizing sustainable development of humanity, China will continue to advance science, technology, and innovation. Science, technology and innovation is a key engine for human progress, a powerful weapon in tackling many global challenges, and the only way for China to foster a new development paradigm and achieve high-quality development. China will invest more in science and technology, developing and enabling systems for innovation as a priority, turn breakthroughs in science and technology into actual productivity at a faster pace, and enhance intellectual property protection, all for the purpose of fostering innovation-driven, higher-quality growth. Scientific and technological advances should benefit all humanity, rather than be used to curb and contain other countries’ development. China will think and act with openness, with regard to international exchange and cooperation on science and technology. We will work with other countries to create an open, fair, equitable, and nondiscriminatory environment for scientific and technological advancement that is beneficial to all and shared by all. China will continue to promote a new type of international relations. “Zero-Sum Game” or “Winner Takes All” is not the guiding philosophy of the Chinese people.

    As a staunch follower of independent foreign policy of peace, China is working hard to bridge differences through dialogue, resolve disputes through negotiation, and to pursue friendly and cooperative relations with other countries on the basis of mutual respect, equality, and mutual benefit.

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    As a steadfast member of developing countries, China will further deepen South-South cooperation, and contribute to the endeavour of developing countries to eradicate poverty, ease their burden, and achieve more growth. China will get more actively engaged in global economic governance and the push for an economic globalization that is more open, inclusive, balanced, and beneficial to all.

    Ladies and gentlemen, friends,

    There is only one earth, and one shared future for humanity. As we cope with the current crisis, and endeavour to make a better day for everyone, we need to unite and work together. We have been shown time and again that to beggar thy neighbor, to go it alone, and to slip into arrogant isolation, will always fail. Let us all join hands and let multilateralism light our way towards a community with a shared future that mankind.
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    Post  andalusia Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:44 am

    kvs wrote:@andalusia

    I know that Sowell is aligned with the US right.   But I do not judge what he says on this basis.   I listen to his arguments and
    decide if I agree or not.   Sowell is a real intellectual who has legitimate points to make.   He cannot be dismissed out of hand.
    But many so-called leftists are indeed trash and not worth the time of day.



    I agree with you that Sowell does make some valid arguments and legitimate points as well as highlighting bad thinking by leftists. However, his support for right wing libertarian economics would not improve the conditions of Afro Americans as well as the economy of the US that he complains about; actually it would make the situation worse such as what happened in Chile under Pinochet when they followed the Chicago school libertarian economics of his teacher Milton Friedman.  


    https://dissidentvoice.org/2020/12/thomas-sowell-vs-noam-chomsky/#:~:text=In%20an%20interview%20with%20Peter%20Robinson,%20Thomas%20Sowell,precisely%20because%20of%20the%20brilliant%20and%20unanswerable

    http://adamsmithslostlegacy.blogspot.com/2008/10/on-throwing-out-baby-with-bathwater.html

    https://adamsmithslostlegacy.blogspot.com/2008/10/free-market-capitalism-is-not-laissez.html
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    Post  kvs Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:28 pm

    Actually, he is right on with his economics in the case of US blacks. The welfare state has destroyed the black community.
    At the core of it was the transition from a family unit to a welfare queen paradigm of single motherhood where the man
    was replaced by the state. This has raised generations of functional illiterate black men since single mother families
    are the worst thing for males. The gangster culture is tied directly to this degeneration. Then we have social
    housing projects that are just ghettos. In spite of all the apartheid problems before the civil rights movement achieved
    its victory during the 1960s, the black community was in much better shape before all the do-gooder BS "progressives".

    Sowell makes a solid case about how "leftist" welfare politics has destroyed the black community in the USA. And
    the real left is not about welfare state nonsense. The real left is about jobs and good pay in addition to removal of
    any racist laws and racism-discrimination in general. Creating welfare mommies who pop out babies to get more
    welfare is grotesque. The approach in the USSR was vastly better. People had jobs and housing, but they had
    to work and could not lounge around doing nothing. Single motherhood was not a problem in the USSR. In retrospect,
    the western welfare state "leftism" looks like a reactionary right wing psyop.

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