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    Post  GarryB on Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:33 pm

    A critique of the British Goverment and media that I found rather interesting...

    https://www.pravdareport.com/world/144771-silly_season/

    Written by a Russian Agent who clearly must be a useful idiot... yet seems to make rather more sense than most British media people...

    by: Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey
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    Post  flamming_python on Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:44 pm

    par far wrote:We are slowing witnessing  the destruction of the US right before our eyes.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/494873-reparations-north-carolina-providence/

    It's all about money isn't it

    Black people in America, who for all intents and purposes are their own seperate people or sub-ethnos, subconsciously know the bargain - essentially to appease them, give them quotas in universities, social benefits, drugs, etc... and being able to present themselves as the eternal victims - in return for their continued role at the bottom of society which their own culture serves to mark as an aspect of pride. Black entrepreneurs also profit from this wave, being able to tout the mark of a black-owned business, and in return assume positions as community leaders and go-betweens between their neighborhoods and the authorities. A sort of modern feudalism.

    But there are no steps actually taken to modernize their communities, change the culture, eliminate backward practices, reduce drug-flow and invite industries and ways to generate jobs. All black people who say something intelligent or come up with some plan are seemingly side-lined.

    Of course there are also many black people who achieve success in wider American society but those are the ones who get out of those same black communities as quickly as possible and move to white ones, mix with the affluent middle-class, become professionals in various fields - and then basically never look back at those same black communities and wouldn't be caught dead going there.
    The underclass of the masses however is continued to be left in the position that it is, an essential part of the social hierarchy in America, much as the LGBT crowd and now 647 new genders are also becoming part of the hierarchy; all pretty much aligned to hate each other instead of realizing common interests.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:10 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:
    kvs wrote: Linguistics is a science and not politics
    Which is why Etruscans couldn't have spoken anything close to modern Rusian
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Proto-Slavic

     
    Nothing in common with Russian he says  Very Happy

    1st Column - Vinca (Danubian) script....modern Serbia, parts of Croatia, Romania, Bosnia
    2nd column - Rasenian (aka Etruscan)....almost identical to Vinca script
    5th column - Cyrilic
    the other ones are Aramiac & Glagolithic (*invented by Cyril & Methodius)

    Surely even you can see the similarities between modern Cyrilic and Vinca, Rasenian script despite the passage of so much time

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    Post  kvs on Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:35 am

    Cyberspec wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:
    kvs wrote: Linguistics is a science and not politics
    Which is why Etruscans couldn't have spoken anything close to modern Rusian
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Proto-Slavic

     
    Nothing in common with Russian he says  Very Happy

    1st Column - Vinca (Danubian) script....modern Serbia, parts of Croatia, Romania, Bosnia
    2nd column - Rasenian (aka Etruscan)....almost identical to Vinca script
    5th column - Cyrilic
    the other ones are Aramiac & Glagolithic (*invented by Cyril & Methodius)

    Surely even you can see the similarities between modern Cyrilic and Vinca, Rasenian script despite the passage of so much time

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    We are dealing with politics and not scientific discussion. Politicized haters can cherry pick through facts that serve their agenda
    and deny to your face facts that do not. So there is no discussion. It is some sort of propaganda affirmation pissing match.

    Thanks for posting this. People who want to deny the facts should have to debunk all such evidence and not people who
    only point to it. It is not like I am personally invested in Etruscans being Slavs or not. Frankly, western Slavs have been stabbing
    Russia in the back for decades and centuries. But that is mainly the fault of assimilation of those groups (e.g. Czechs and Poles)
    into the Catholic western civilization.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:49 am

    1. Vinca symbols are Neolithic. They predate earliest IE migrations into Europe. There is a lot more of them, a lot of them look nothing like Cyrylic:
    BTW do you see a swastika? It proves Nazism is the oldest ideology on Earth. cheers  cheers
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    Cyrylic and Etruscan script share similarities because both are derived directly from Greek alphabet, without any intermediaries (Latin script comes from Etruscan). In the past Cyryllic used to be even more similar to Greek before Petere the Great simplified it and made it look more "western"..
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    Franky, I don't see how not having an advanced civilizations proves that Slavs are inferior. Scandinavians did not have one either
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    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:07 am

    Vinca culture has been sort of a hobby of mine for about 20 years so I know a thing or two about it. There are a lot of symbols dating from the earliest epoch through to later periods.

    I'm glad you posted the symbols because apart from the swastika there;s another interesting one...the Serbian Cross

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    The one on the left is from a grave in Ireland....the middle is the modern Serbian Coat of Arms.....the one the right is from a cathedral in Dresden - East Germany  Cool
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    The ancient Greek alphabet borrowed heavily from the Vinca script (which is much more ancient), not the other way around. So don't tell me fairy tales that Cyrilic comes from Greek

    Early depiction of Achiles sporting the same symbol
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    Post  kvs on Sat Jul 25, 2020 6:54 pm

    I will get back to the situation with Etruscan. Western academic dogma has it that no translations exist. This is manifestly false.
    There is no credibility from the western deniers of Slavic history. They are diseased with with a species of racism where Slavs are
    inferior. So western anthropology and history are corrupted by the politics of western states.

    If translating passages by chance was so trivial, then all the western deniers could easily provide examples. They never do
    and just keep repeating that no translations exist.

    If one stands back and thinks, was Greece the only country in Europe between 1000 BC the rise of Rome? Given that
    Rome treated Greece as a sort of historical pedestal for itself, it looks a lot like what is passed off today as history of
    Europe is derived from Roman-centric BS. This chauvinist history has progressed to today where Europe is treated as
    some sort of focus for human civilization. The rest of the world, with only a token mention of the Orient, may as well
    have been mud hut savages land.

    Make no mistake, western Europeans who are the psychological descendants of Rome, have leveraged their self-anointed
    civilizational superiority as a tool to engage in colonial rape and pillage. So we had the popes declaring that New World
    aboriginals were not humans since they had no soul since they hadn't converted to Catholicism (or Christianity as the
    Vatican arrogantly thinks of it). When western Europe moved in on the New World, it murdered and enslaved the
    people living there. Since it gave itself the moral authority. How can sane history survive in such a rotten civilization.
    It will and has been subjugated to the political and economic agenda of western elites.



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    Post  flamming_python on Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:43 am

    kvs wrote:I will get back to the situation with Etruscan.   Western academic dogma has it that no translations exist.   This is manifestly false.
    There is no credibility from the western deniers of Slavic history.   They are diseased with with a species of racism where Slavs are
    inferior.   So western anthropology and history are corrupted by the politics of western states.  

    If translating passages by chance was so trivial, then all the western deniers could easily provide examples.   They never do
    and just keep repeating that no translations exist.

    If one stands back and thinks, was Greece the only country in Europe between 1000 BC the rise of Rome?   Given that
    Rome treated Greece as a sort of historical pedestal for itself, it looks a lot like what is passed off today as history of
    Europe is derived from Roman-centric BS.   This chauvinist history has progressed to today where Europe is treated as
    some sort of focus for human civilization.   The rest of the world, with only a token mention of the Orient, may as well
    have been mud hut savages land.  

    Make no mistake, western Europeans who are the psychological descendants of Rome, have leveraged their self-anointed
    civilizational superiority as a tool to engage in colonial rape and pillage.   So we had the popes declaring that New World
    aboriginals were not humans since they had no soul since they hadn't converted to Catholicism (or Christianity as the
    Vatican arrogantly thinks of it).   When western Europe moved in on the New World, it murdered and enslaved the
    people living there.   Since it gave itself the moral authority.    How can sane history survive in such a rotten civilization.
    It will and has been subjugated to the political and economic agenda of western elites.  




    kvs all your theses are poisoned by the eternal inferiority complex of downtrodden Slav vs the prosperous Germanic

    Who cares what Western academicians think about Slavs or Russians or whoever. And actually I don't think they have a negative or slanted opinion particularly, the problem is more in the political and upper-class Anglo-Saxon establishment.

    Japan is a richer country than Russia. But I don't care what they think about Russians. We have our own country to take care of, with our own scientific institutions to build up - which are in all actuality, underfunded, understaffed and underpaid. And through no fault of anyone's but our own government.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Jul 26, 2020 5:52 pm

    To be fair they did have a military force to completely overhaul and rebuild.... and now that that has been achieved and things are going rather well for the military they are now looking to other areas to focus on to spread the development to other parts.

    All of the important things are important because they add to the well being of the citizen.

    Some things can't be fixed with money... look at knife crime in the UK... people clearly carry knives out of fear... they want to protect themselves because it is clear other people carry them too.

    Banning knives is not working... in most countries walking around carrying a knife is illegal, except if you have a legitimate reason for carrying one... which is quite rare.

    The funny thing is that the UK probably has more cameras in public spaces than any other place on the planet... the government in power in the book 1984 would be jealous, and the Nazi party would be looking at the technology the Americans use to spy on their own allies and wonder why they keep getting everything so badly wrong... they would understand perfectly their mantra.... it is Russias fault... it is Stalins fault.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:10 pm

    kvs wrote:I will get back to the situation with Etruscan.   Western academic dogma has it that no translations exist.   This is manifestly false.
    There is no credibility from the western deniers of Slavic history.   They are diseased with with a species of racism where Slavs are
    inferior.   So western anthropology and history are corrupted by the politics of western states.....

    They have to promote that view to justify their take over of originally Slavic lands. They have been quite successful in the past couple of centuries (if not longer) in establishing that point of view as "mainstream".

    To go back to the Etruscans once again...and to throw out there another interesting example....the hypothesis by a historian (Damjanovic) why these people were called Etruscans (Roman name for them) to begin with when it's known that they called themselves Rasi / Raseni.

    The Romans inherited a lot of their religious practices from the Etruscans...especially the divination of events based on examining animal livers. The liver was thought to materially represent all effects & forces from the outside cosmos onto the internal body.

    According to the Romans, in the  early period of Roman history the Etruscan Priests were sought after because they were considered particularly skillful in this practice, which the Romans called DISCIPLINA ETRUSKA

    The Serbian word for Liver is JETRA or JETRUSHKA --> (J)-ETRUSHKA = ETRUSKA  ....discipline of the Liver Smile

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    Post  kvs on Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:11 am



    Modern westernized females are scum. Note how she resented the husband because she got long hours and he got more time with the kids.
    When the man is the one working long hours and does not get to see the kids, the female also resents him. Males are screwed either way.
    This narcissistic infantilism is really too much. Grow a brain you f*cking feminist misandrist degenerates. You are not exceptional and special
    and no man needs to eat your shit. Feminism is one of the biggest frauds in history. It couches itself in terms of equality, but at the core
    is a male hate exercise. BS about patriarchy and a "wage gap" (that has been illegal since the mid 1960s) are a way to extort money from
    men by opportunists who use the kangaroo "family courts" to divorce rape.

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    Post  kvs on Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:49 am



    Feminism is a virulent political movement. Professional liars spreading propaganda about wage gaps, discrimination and
    other never-ending victimhood fraud.

    Western politicians have shown exactly how worthless they are by pandering to these criminals and passing laws such
    as "no fault" divorce (where the woman gets alimony but the man doesn't unless we are dealing with a rich female and
    a much poorer husband) and creating the kangaroo "family court" system which is totally biased against men. Men have
    to prove their children are being abused by their mother. The mother never has to do this and automatically gets
    possession of the children. Idiotic stereotype driven BS. Women do not have to prove anything in family court,
    men have to prove their innocence.

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    Post  kvs on Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:59 am

    Note the stukach model of censorship on "free" western social media. Some PC drone does not like your opinion, you are banned.
    And "offense" is a BS excuse since any zealot will be offended by contradictory information. Jesus H. Christ himself would be banned
    on western social media.

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    Post  kvs on Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:34 am



    Modern woke "liberals" are insane.

    1) There is no such thing as a "white race". Just like there is no such thing as there is a "black race".
    There are all sorts of ethnic groups who have different histories and are often at each other's throats.
    US problems are not global problems.

    2) White privilege is a grotesque and racist smear. Back when US blacks were slaves, US whites were
    indentured serfs. The vast majority of US whites never owned any slaves or even profited from slavery.
    Southern US anti-black racism and apartheid was nurtured by the Democratic Party. Jim Crow laws
    created that apartheid and stoked the discrimination. "Whites" around the world are not involved in this
    and share no guilt for it.

    3) It is popular in the USA and the west today to paint Arabs such as those in North Africa as "blacks".
    But these "blacks" were and still are the biggest slavers of actual blacks in history. These "blacks" are
    also the biggest white slavers in history. Using the BLM "logic" whites should demand reparations form
    these "blacks". Basically, all these woke morons have no clue about history and are too busy virtue
    signalling by kneeling, kissing shoes and wearing chains.

    In the above video you see one US white woke bimbo actually claiming that white paupers are better off
    than blacks. That gives you a measure of the woke retardation.

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    Post  Hole on Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:04 am

    We should rename this thread. The "west" isn´t in decline, it has hit rock-bottom after the last election in the land of the dumb.
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    Post  kvs on Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:25 am

    https://summit.news/2020/08/05/libertarian-party-presidential-candidate-praises-company-for-firing-woman-who-posted-all-lives-matter-on-facebook/

    Demonstration of the rotten nature of western parties. The clowns trying to lead these parties really belong to the
    on PC conformist party. So the BS that many parties proves the presence of democracy is for suckers.

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    Post  par far on Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:54 am

    I am really enjoying the mass unrest in Amerika, I just wish this mass unrest would spread to other western countries, specifically France.
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:46 pm

    I can't say I enjoy watching violence and demonstrations anywhere, but I suspect for a while now in the west the people in power and the people making plans for the future have gone for academic ideals and morality ideals to redress problems with balances that might not exist now and they are making laws and changes to policy based on what a few minorities demand and are ignoring the wishes and interests of the majority.

    I could care less of two men or two women were in love and want to get married... it doesn't bother me... I really don't care what men and women couples do in the bedroom either... it is still none of my business, but I do have a problem when some people demand children are taught in school to accept such things as normal and acceptable for everyone.

    Instead of promoting deviant or fringe lifestyle choices and promoting them as somehow being normal, I think instead they should be taught such things exist and it is important to be tolerant of people with different views, but they should not be encouraging children to even think about their sexuality at the ages they do.

    When an 8 year old boy wants to be accepted as gay... why? According to the laws he should not be sexually active so his sexuality shouldn't matter.

    The only thing we should be worried about is kids picking on him because he says he is a poof or he thinks he should be a girl because he thinks poofs are not OK.

    He should not get drugs or surgery...
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    Post  kvs on Sun Aug 09, 2020 3:15 am

    GarryB wrote:I can't say I enjoy watching violence and demonstrations anywhere, but I suspect for a while now in the west the people in power and the people making plans for the future have gone for academic ideals and morality ideals to redress problems with balances that might not exist now and they are making laws and changes to policy based on what a few minorities demand and are ignoring the wishes and interests of the majority.

    I could care less of two men or two women were in love and want to get married... it doesn't bother me... I really don't care what men and women couples do in the bedroom either... it is still none of my business, but I do have a problem when some people demand children are taught in school to accept such things as normal and acceptable for everyone.

    Instead of promoting deviant or fringe lifestyle choices and promoting them as somehow being normal, I think instead they should be taught such things exist and it is important to be tolerant of people with different views, but they should not be encouraging children to even think about their sexuality at the ages they do.

    When an 8 year old boy wants to be accepted as gay... why? According to the laws he should not be sexually active so his sexuality shouldn't matter.

    The only thing we should be worried about is kids picking on him because he says he is a poof or he thinks he should be a girl because he thinks poofs are not OK.

    He should not get drugs or surgery...

    Exactly. We are not dealing with simple rights of minorities but with grotesque genital mutilation of minors and so-called trannies
    who are basically perverts posing as a minority. Not all trannies want to get Brazilian waxes done to their balls and try to sue
    the female catering places that do such hair removal for women. Then we have so-called "women" in female sports seriously
    injuring actual women. This is all gross excess being whitewashed as minority rights.

    NATzO's morality has always been fake and a tool for wielding power. Nothing has changed in this regard. The so-called morality
    is just morphing to try to pretend to have the upper ground.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:23 am

    Cyberspec wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:
    kvs wrote: Linguistics is a science and not politics
    Which is why Etruscans couldn't have spoken anything close to modern Rusian
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Proto-Slavic

     
    Nothing in common with Russian he says  Very Happy

    1st Column - Vinca (Danubian) script....modern Serbia, parts of Croatia, Romania, Bosnia
    2nd column - Rasenian (aka Etruscan)....almost identical to Vinca script
    5th column - Cyrilic
    the other ones are Aramiac & Glagolithic (*invented by Cyril & Methodius)

    Surely even you can see the similarities between modern Cyrilic and Vinca, Rasenian script despite the passage of so much time

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    The Vinca Culture people were the ancient Paleo-Europeans, and they were probably related to the ancient Etruscans, as the Vinca Culture people were of the G2a paternal ancestry, and so were (at least partially) the Etruscans?

    So that the two scripts look almost identical might not be a coincident, because both of these peoples were apparently of common paternal origin.

    It appears most of the Vinca Culture people did not survive, as first they were hit by a devastating plague, and soon afterwards they were finished off by the Indo-European R1b invaders. I think the ancient Rhaetians were a surviving remnant of the Vinca Culture, who escaped to the Alps, and at least some historians believe they were related to the Etruscans. That is why people with the G2a paternal ancestry are a more significant minority in Switzerland, because they descend from these Rhaetians. Also, G2a paternal ancestry is found at above-average levels in Italy and Turkey.

    In Catalonia G2a is found at 20% (I am not certain if it is only the ethnic Catalans or all people presently living in Catalonia), but I think the Catalan G2a is of Gothic origin.  

    Highest level of the G2a paternal ancestry is found in North Ossetia at 75%.


    So Rhaetians (and possibly Etruscans?) were the Paleo-Europeans, while the Goths were a very ancient splinter group of Ossetians.

    These are two different branches of the G2a paternal ancestry, albeit they are all distantly related to each other.



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    Post  GarryB on Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:32 pm

    Then we have so-called "women" in female sports seriously
    injuring actual women. This is all gross excess being whitewashed as minority rights.

    It is bad of me but I do find it amusing when transgender women that used to be men and still have mens bodies but with womens genitals and mammaries absolutely blow away female athletes in sports like weight lifting... because the femenists can't complain that having a male body is an advantage because men and women are equal aren't they?

    You hear the womens soccer players and tennis players demanding equal pay rates, but you never hear them demanding performance based pay and mixing men and women together in the same league...
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    Post  kvs on Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:58 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Then we have so-called "women" in female sports seriously
    injuring actual women. This is all gross excess being whitewashed as minority rights.

    It is bad of me but I do find it amusing when transgender women that used to be men and still have mens bodies but with womens genitals and mammaries absolutely blow away female athletes in sports like weight lifting... because the femenists can't complain that having a male body is an advantage because men and women are equal aren't they?

    You hear the womens soccer players and tennis players demanding equal pay rates, but you never hear them demanding  performance based pay and mixing men and women together in the same league...

    Actually those "women" have not gone through sex change operations. These days of PC utopian "freedom" allows nutjobs of all flavours to identify as this and that. In Ontario a law was passed that it is illegal to call someone Mr. if they want to be called Dragon-kin, etc. Yes, really. Normal people are supposed to guess what tag to use on these nutjobs. The nutjobs do not wear dragon or unicorn costumes. We had that viral video on youtube where a so-called tranny in the USA went ballistic because a store clerk used the wrong tag. The f*cker was not advertising that he wanted to be treated as a woman or non-man.

    These same ex-men with male genitalia want to use female bathrooms. And of course kids these days are being taught that there are more than two genders. It is odd why we need every hermaphrodite and birth defect turned into a gender. It's not like people were undressing them all the time to make sure that the conformed to some gender. Nobody was denying them jobs based on their invisible birth defects. I would be more concerned by physically handicapped rights, people with actual disabilities (that is a relative concept) really do have a rough life.



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    Post  Hole on Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:00 pm

    Female tennis players are really. They play best of 3 sets the whole time but want the same money at Grand slam tournaments then men, which play best of 5. Equal pay = equal performance. And they play against other women so endurance or strength can´t be an issue.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:27 pm

    The facts of the matter is that mens tennis generates more money so there is more money to throw at the people who make it work.

    You won't see women demanding men in porn movies get the same money the women get... they don't actually want equality... they just want everything they can get for themselves.

    Was donating plasma the other day and the nurse said she is just did a training course where she has to greet the patients by telling them her name and that she identifies as a woman. I smiled and told her my name and told her I identify as a chest of drawers... Cool

    She laughed but I bet the Nazi that insisted on the training would be offended... you would not believe how much trouble us furnature types have to put up with here in New Zealand.... cry

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    Post  kvs on Fri Aug 14, 2020 5:56 am

    https://summit.news/2020/08/13/leftist-5-year-old-boy-deserved-to-be-shot-in-the-head-for-his-white-privilege/

    Don't ever fob off the SJW zealotry as mild. They are totally f*cked in the head.

    And they are not real leftists. Real leftists would not be about racism like the clowns in the USA who yammer on and
    on about white privilege. These US "leftists" are sponsored by the corporate sector including George Soros. So they
    are Trojan worms.


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