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    Post  kvs on Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:43 pm



    A bit long but interesting deposition about the scummy behaviour of Johnny Depp's wife Amber Heard.

    A testament to the liberated female: violent, shameless liar, backstabber.

    All the yapping about "objectification of women" is pure diversion from the fact that females objectify males
    to a much worse degree. Men do not treat females as mere "sex objects" unless they are into necrophilia,
    but basically all women treat men like beasts of burden and ATMs for their leisure. All the yapping about
    men being unfaithful is yet more BS since it is females that pathologically sleep around and monkey-branch.
    All the yapping about men not properly communicating with women is blood libel. Females never properly
    communicate and act as if men should be able to read their minds. Females perpetually "shit test" their
    so-called love partners (men) to prove their fealty. And no matter what the man does, he is never right.
    You simply cannot have a normal relationship with a schizophrenic. And the vast majority of females are
    schizophrenics even though it is not PC to admit this.

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    Post  ahmedfire on Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:22 pm


    Individualism is making the western society sucks .

    Every demographic or group are competing against each other as if they're enemies. The bond between men and women is getting worse. The bond between white and black people is getting worse. The bond between liberals and conservatives is getting worse . If you go to somewhere where people congregate like a church, work, school, party, and you approach someone you don't know, even if they are by themselves and it's a social environment, they will look at you as if you're a paedophile. Rolling Eyes

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    Post  GarryB on Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:05 am

    The fundamental problem is that Americans are stupid.

    They will say shit like we don't have friends, we have interests... which is fine... and actually refreshingly honest for a change, but they have not worked out that if you have interests then to get things done you need allies to help you, but if you don't have friends... you shouldn't have enemies either... having enemies means you need friends to help you because enemies don't change and neither do friends.

    The point is that the US doesn't have friends so why is it creating enemies?

    America has interests and it is in its interests to have certain agreements on nuclear and conventional weapons... by making Russia and China enemies it means it can't talk to its enemies because by definition an enemy only wants to hurt you so wont agree to anything useful to you.

    They haven't worked it out yet though... so they wont be able to get anything done that is important because they are putting china and russia up in front of themselves to make everything harder.

    ISIS is a good example... together... the Russians French British German and American special forces could have made very short work of ISIS... with all the funding from all sides dedicated to eradicating that terrorist threat, but instead the western allies decided to pick a different team and chose Kurds and terrorists to fight ISIS.... and Assad and the Russians and Iranians... money went to things that slowed things down rather than speeded things up.

    But the reality is that ISIS was not important to the US and removing Assad from power was the real goal... and to get a more american friendly government in Iraq with more Kurds of course...
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    Post  kvs on Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:44 pm

    GarryB wrote:The fundamental problem is that Americans are stupid.

    They will say shit like we don't have friends, we have interests... which is fine... and actually refreshingly honest for a change, but they have not worked out that if you have interests then to get things done you need allies to help you, but if you don't have friends... you shouldn't have enemies either... having enemies means you need friends to help you because enemies don't change and neither do friends.

    The point is that the US doesn't have friends so why is it creating enemies?

    America has interests and it is in its interests to have certain agreements on nuclear and conventional weapons... by making Russia and China enemies it means it can't talk to its enemies because by definition an enemy only wants to hurt you so wont agree to anything useful to you.

    They haven't worked it out yet though... so they wont be able to get anything done that is important because they are putting china and russia up in front of themselves to make everything harder.

    ISIS is a good example... together... the Russians French British German and American special forces could have made very short work of ISIS... with all the funding from all sides dedicated to eradicating that terrorist threat, but instead the western allies decided to pick a different team and chose Kurds and terrorists to fight ISIS.... and Assad and the Russians and Iranians... money went to things that slowed things down rather than speeded things up.

    But the reality is that ISIS was not important to the US and removing Assad from power was the real goal... and to get a more american friendly government in Iraq with more Kurds of course...

    The problem with the US it is insane ideology of exceptionalism or manifest destiny. It does not treat others with any respect
    since it deems itself to be appointed by God to be special. So the US ignores the legitimate interests and rights of China, Russia
    and any country that it deems in its way. The exceptionalist brain rot is what generates America's enemies. You can see this
    with how the US treats Russia. Either Russia submits to colonial rape, or it becomes some sort of threat to humanity. All sorts
    of cheesy propaganda and cherry picking of facts are invoked to demonize it. The yanquis think that they are assured victory
    over Russia under any circumstance so they do not eve try to be balanced and fair.

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    Post  ahmedfire on Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:31 am

    GarryB wrote:The fundamental problem is that Americans are stupid.

    They will say shit like we don't have friends, we have interests... which is fine... and actually refreshingly honest for a change, but they have not worked out that if you have interests then to get things done you need allies to help you, but if you don't have friends... you shouldn't have enemies either... having enemies means you need friends to help you because enemies don't change and neither do friends.

    The point is that the US doesn't have friends so why is it creating enemies?

    America has interests and it is in its interests to have certain agreements on nuclear and conventional weapons... by making Russia and China enemies it means it can't talk to its enemies because by definition an enemy only wants to hurt you so wont agree to anything useful to you.

    They haven't worked it out yet though... so they wont be able to get anything done that is important because they are putting china and russia up in front of themselves to make everything harder.

    ISIS is a good example... together... the Russians French British German and American special forces could have made very short work of ISIS... with all the funding from all sides dedicated to eradicating that terrorist threat, but instead the western allies decided to pick a different team and chose Kurds and terrorists to fight ISIS.... and Assad and the Russians and Iranians... money went to things that slowed things down rather than speeded things up.

    But the reality is that ISIS was not important to the US and removing Assad from power was the real goal... and to get a more american friendly government in Iraq with more Kurds of course...

    Even their movies , always showing the others as idiots who should follow the western culture to not be idiots .

    I remember a movie showing an American hero agent who went to Russia to stop the launch of a nuclear missile that hijacked from the Russian government by a terrorist group and of course this hero did the mission and went back safe to US  lol1

    Everyone wants to be an idol like Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus or some k-pop star,millions of fans ,money and digital life on Instagram and Twitter to be happy but being famous make other people dictate to you how you should live your life, so you lost a lot of your autonomy. What to say, who to date, what to create, what opinions to think. Even what you wear will be scrutinised ,Loads of people have money and they're not famous. Landlords have money ,doctors have money. What these fame-seekers fail to realise, is that once you have your basic needs met such as food, shelter, transport, utility bills, internet - no higher amount of income will make you any happier.


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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:34 am

    "US military researchers want the US gov to encourage private ships to become pirates, writing “Unleash the Privateers!”

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    I guess they're envious of Somali pirates for some reason. Embarassed I'm guessing their not aware their's already and answer for this:



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    Post  jhelb on Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:53 pm

    GarryB wrote:The fundamental problem is that Americans are stupid.

    Not sure about that. I find them to be very cunning. That aside major products, services (Google, Amazon, Apple etc) emerge from the US, so not sure if they are stupid.

    GarryB wrote:They will say shit like we don't have friends, we have interests... which is fine... and actually refreshingly honest for a change,

    Refreshingly honest, but have they said that in as many words, ever?
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    Post  jhelb on Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:57 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:
    Even their movies , always showing the others as idiots who should follow the western culture to not be idiots .
    That's true. Russians and some communities of color like Blacks, Latinos, Indians, Japs are always portrayed as enemies. Funnily enough Hollywood is quite popular in the Arab world.
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    Post  kvs on Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:09 pm



    Here we see the sort of "equality" that feminazis wanted. There is no equality, the female can do as she pleases, but the
    same behaviour from a man is a crime.

    Also, how is "no fault divorce" associated with alimony? Alimony is a penalty to one of the marriage partners to compensate
    the other for the divorce (i.e. change in the standard of living post-divorce). So, by definition, it is not "no fault". These
    1960s reformers were all beta male cucks who white-knighted for "poor oppressed women" and penalized males on all fronts.
    No fault divorce laws are a violation of human rights.

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    Post  ahmedfire on Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:56 pm

    This is sickening, women like these are narcissistic monsters! No cry


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    Post  kvs on Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:04 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:This is sickening, women like these are narcissistic monsters! No cry

    And what is worst, is that the legal system actively enables this narcissism and deviance. The current laws are
    basically man-fault and women-nofault. Couched in PC totalitarian language of equality.

    And example of the false equality is the current propaganda from feminists that women are making less than men
    when it comes to income. This is a bald faced lie. Since the middle 1960s it has been illegal to pay women less
    than men for the same job. If you listen to the spew from today's feminazis you would think that no such laws
    exist. They are (likely deliberately) confusing aggregate pay differences as specific pay discrimination. So if
    more women work at slightly lower paying jobs than men, this is supposedly discrimination. It is obviously not
    discrimination since those women choose to work at those jobs. It is a fact that women do not choose dangerous
    or physically demanding jobs. That is their freedom of choice and not oppression. So of course they are going
    to make less than men in aggregate. But they are not satisfied and are demanding new legislation to globally
    rectify incomes. So the government will coerce employers to create jobs where they hire only women and pay
    them more. Or they have to transform low paying jobs into high paying jobs. This sort of social engineering
    is pure nonsense and will only impose spurious costs on society. Employers will have to pass on their costs to
    consumers and men and women will have to pay more for goods and services.

    So at the end of the day the increased wages are going to be nullified. And men will get relatively poorer.

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    Post  GarryB on Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:48 am

    Not sure about that. I find them to be very cunning. That aside major products, services (Google, Amazon, Apple etc) emerge from the US, so not sure if they are stupid.

    I don't mean unable to wipe their own asses... I mean easily fooled... I mean ask them if they think their government or media is lying to them and most will say yes, but when the media and government tell them Iraq has WMDs and we need to deal with that before we need to deal with medical care for all Americans and they just do as they are told.

    Trump is no better... before elections Trump wanted better relations with Russia and to pull American troops out of conflicts that are of no benefit to the average American. Very valuable to the Americans making bullets and bombs and the ultra rich who get contracts to rebuild countries to a substandard level they will never be held accountable for...

    He gets elected and the opposition... his opponents... bully him into all sorts of stupid sanctions against Russia and to continue pretty much all the conflicts that were going on before he entered office and to make most of them worse by tearing up the deal with Iran.

    Now I would agree the problems with Iran are clearly to please Trumps backers and he was not goaded in to that by the Democrats, but he is being manipulated by the same people who manipulate both parties in the country. It is not in the interests of the american voters that the US has bad relations with Russia and US troops in countries around the world getting shot at and attacked like the occupying force they generally represent.

    The situation is the same in Venezuela, but the general public don't listen to the 1% who make lots of money under the pro US nutters in power before Maduro and Chavez and they vote in people who want to improve their standard of living even if it means their millionaires can't become billionaires... boo hoo...

    Refreshingly honest, but have they said that in as many words, ever?

    Hilary said it specifically several times when she was head of the state department to explain US actions... we don't have friends... we have interests...

    Funnily enough Hollywood is quite popular in the Arab world.

    Popular for what reason... is it just eye candy, or do they find Hollywoods warped view of the world amusing in a way it was never intended to be...

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    Post  kvs on Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:07 pm

    I suspect that Hollywood's use of special effects and action is the equivalent of glass beads to late 1700s and early 1800s
    new world aboriginals. It is not common and humans are put in a thrall by it. Of course, most grow out of this thrall
    but it buys the US propaganda value.

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    Post  GarryB on Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:45 am

    Well to be fair I watched both the first two Terminator movies and at the time enjoyed them both, but I must say I enjoyed the second one more and to be honest it was because of the improved special effects. I don't think the story of the second one was better and I don't think the acting was better.
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    Post  kvs on Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:45 pm



    Regime money thugs never miss a chance to raise revenue in Canada. Transparent abuse of the regulations does not
    stop them, you have to prove your innocence in court with a starting fee (non-refundable unlike the USA where you
    can properly sue for court costs) of over $10,000. So naturally nobody fights back against the regime thugs.
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    Post  kvs on Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:56 pm



    So "white privilege" means whites can be discriminated against.   Note the "logic" of the black bimbo near the end of the video.
    Since "white privilege" supposedly exists (BS), that means that raising it as an "argument" against someone's reasoned opinion
    is valid.   I will not accept any claims that this black bimbo was "oppressed".   Her job proves that there is such a thing as
    minority privilege and her sex and skin colour have been a prime reason for her paycheck.   No black American today has
    anything to do with black slavery in the US.   That experience is a cultural residue and not a moral superiority argument.
    And the claim that whites were never mistreated by the system is blood libel.   During the black slavery era, whites were
    subjected to indentured servitude.   They were slaves in all but name and were physically and sexually abused.  Also,
    the ownership of the black slaves was essentially by the rich.  So claiming a collective white guilt for slavery is BS.  In fact,
    the rich later figured out that blue colar slaves were more effective than plantation slaves.   So whites were abused by
    the rich for further enrichment en masse.

    Also, the current fad in the black community is to claim all their problems are due to whitey. This is racist degeneracy of
    the worst sort. If you don't give enough fucks to get an education instead of gang banging in the hood, then don't
    bitch if you can't get a well paying job. It is quite revealing how immigrant Africans (e.g. from Nigeria) manage to get
    well paying jobs but some slave descendants can't. This demonstrates that having the right attitude is very important.
    And being a bitter loser bitch who can't raise a finger to exert some effort does not entitle you to anything other than
    the toilet you find yourself in.

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    Post  kvs on Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:21 pm



    Never help anyone. You will be accused of all sorts of crimes by opportunist maggots. This is modern reality.

    And this rot is not recent. Over 30 years ago my mother stopped a child from running onto a busy street. Instead
    of giving my mother thanks, the mother of the child started interrogating her kid about what sort of wrong doing
    my mother engaged in. Well, fuck you, scum. After hearing this I dialed down any altruism I had.

    There have been cases of a man helping some bimbo with a car problem and then being accused of sexual assault. No, there
    was no assault, just lies.

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/good-samaritan-spends-two-weeks-in-a-maximum-security-prison-after-woman-whose-car-he-helped-fix-falsely-accused-him-of-indecent-assault/ar-AAAYhxW



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    Post  GarryB on Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:35 am

    Remember recently watching a video of some large woman who fell into a pool unconscious and she is complaining that the guy who rescued her did not get her consent to give her mouth to mouth resuscitation... She actually looked attractive, but she did not sound very smart...
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    Post  par far on Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:33 am

    The one thing I don't get is, how the western countries are in a downward spiral economically and the western countries can't take care of the people in their countries but are taking in millions of refugees and immigrants? Why is this happening?

    The west is slowly destroying itself.
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    Post  ahmedfire on Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:22 pm

    par far wrote:The one thing I don't get is, how the western countries are in a downward spiral economically and the western countries can't take care of the people in their countries but are taking in millions of refugees and immigrants? Why is this happening?

    The west is slowly destroying itself.

    Most refugees are workers and no place in the world has an older population that's not into baby making than Europe .With fertility rates expected to hit zero in Europe in the next decade, the only way the European Union can fight elderly poverty and maintain its expensive entitlement programs is to increase immigration , at some limits refugees are useful .
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    Post  kvs on Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:38 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:
    par far wrote:The one thing I don't get is, how the western countries are in a downward spiral economically and the western countries can't take care of the people in their countries but are taking in millions of refugees and immigrants? Why is this happening?

    The west is slowly destroying itself.

    Most refugees are workers  and no place in the world has an older population that's not into baby making than Europe .With fertility rates expected to hit zero in Europe in the next decade, the only way the European Union can fight elderly poverty and maintain its expensive entitlement programs is to increase immigration , at some limits refugees are useful .

    Since marriage and children are now a turn-off for many males, it leaves immigrants and their "old ways" to fill the baby gap. But immigrants
    will feel the same pressures after one generation. They are subject to the same absurd divorce laws and their female offspring will be
    narcissistic bimbos who drink the faminazi koolaid. Funny who the disintegration of the family in the west is celebrated by the fake stream
    media.
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    Post  ahmedfire on Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:51 pm

    But immigrants
    will feel the same pressures after one generation. They are subject to the same absurd divorce laws and their female offspring will be
    narcissistic bimbos who drink the faminazi koolaid

    I guess most ME immigrants keeps their social habits protected , they still keeping on the normal family organized with higher birth rates .If there are not enough working-aged people paying taxes, there is not enough money to pay for social security.Either taxes have to go higher to make up for that, or countries need to find a way to expand their tax base.
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    Post  par far on Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:17 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:
    par far wrote:The one thing I don't get is, how the western countries are in a downward spiral economically and the western countries can't take care of the people in their countries but are taking in millions of refugees and immigrants? Why is this happening?

    The west is slowly destroying itself.

    Most refugees are workers  and no place in the world has an older population that's not into baby making than Europe .With fertility rates expected to hit zero in Europe in the next decade, the only way the European Union can fight elderly poverty and maintain its expensive entitlement programs is to increase immigration , at some limits refugees are useful .


    The fertility rate in Europe is engineered to be the way it is, if the elite in Europe had worked on increasing the fertility rate of their respective countries by promoting family, religion and had they set up the needed resources for people to raise a family than the fertility rate in Europe would have been fine.

    Most refugees come to Europe(and western countries) to get free money and benefits, they don't want to work and we are seeing this. Most refugees that are coming over are involved in crime, rape and criminal activities. That is not how you help your country.

    The elites in the West made 2 big mistakes(along with other mistakes) and they are making a 3rd one that is leading to the rapid decline of the west:

    The 1st mistake they made: Was not to divide Russia into small pieces when the Soviet Union collapsed(they now say this openly), it is to late now. Had they divided Russia into small parts, they would have grabbed the resources and could have controlled the small states. The Western elites did try to destroy Russian industries, they were not able to totally destroy them because they were too busy robbing Russia. Thank god Putin came into the picture.

    The 2nd mistake they made: Was to give most of the manufacturing jobs that the west had to China, so the western elites could make more money. But at the same time they did not keep tabs on China and get try to install a friendly West  Chinese government (it is too late now) because the western elites were making so much money. And now China has risen to challenge the West.

    These 2 mistakes that they made, they did not know at the time because they were blinded by money and now these mistakes have come back to bite them.

    The 3rd mistake that the western elites are making right now is bringing in too many 3rd world immigrants but they are blinded because they are making money. The mistakes they are making right now is destroying countries, so they can make money from stealing the resources of these countries and brining all the people from those countries into the West. And these people coming over are pissed and they are taking it on the local population, we can see this in Sweden where rape has gone up rapidly because of the refugees and immigrants, there Muslim grooming gangs all over Europe (especially in England). The western elites don't know that to much immigration does not work and Muslims(which are the majority that is coming) won't ever integrate into the society they are coming in to, history has shown us this. What they say is true "bring the 3rd world into your country and you become the 3rd world".

    The Western Elites will regret their 3rd mistake in the future, same way they are regretting mistakes 1 and 2.
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    Post  kvs on Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:16 am

    My point about female conversion to western "values" cannot be fobbed off. We have had a case in Ontario where the father
    honour murdered his daughter because she was adopting western norms. So even Islamic culture is not enough to counteract
    the pernicious influence of western snake oil. That is the magic of western snake oil. It promises people a free lunch and zero
    effort. That is what feminazis brainwashed females with. So now we have a sluts who ride the cock carousel from their late
    teens to their early 30s chasing every "hunk" (of shit) that they think is the holy grail. Then they bitch about no good men
    being around to marry them when they are spent by their middle 30s. They are not good for birthing children, they are good
    for spreading VD.


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