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    Post  Austin Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:15 pm

    On BEML site I found its KMT-6 Mine Plough used on T-72 & T-90 and it weighs 1 T 
    http://www.bemlindia.com/documents/Products/Defence/Eqpt%20Spec/Engg.%20Mine%20Plough.pdf
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    Post  GarryB Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:39 am

    The Russians use two types of ploughs... the KMT-7 is a roller plough and weighs 7.5 tons. The KMT-8 uses a blade and weighs 1 ton.

    The KMT-10 is used on light vehicles like BMPs and uses a blade system and weighs 450kg.
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    Post  Austin Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:23 am

    Τhanks Garry
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    Post  Vann7 Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:55 am


    Whats the difference between T-90AM and T-90 MS ?
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    Post  TR1 Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:58 am

    Vann7 wrote:
    Whats the difference between T-90AM  and T-90 MS ?  

    T-90AM does not exist yet, but if MOD orders T-90MS, it will be in the army-modified T-90AM form.

    If that makes sense Very Happy
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    Post  Werewolf Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:35 pm

    TR1 wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:
    Whats the difference between T-90AM  and T-90 MS ?  

    T-90AM does not exist yet, but if MOD orders T-90MS, it will be in the army-modified T-90AM form.

    If that makes sense Very Happy

    So in other words the T-90MS is the Ka-62 which will be modified and transformed into the initially planned Ka-60  Very Happy 
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    Post  collegeboy16 Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:34 am

    afaik there may not be a T-90MA- Armatas are just around the corner anyway(next year) so even if they finished developing one now production would jusst coincide with the new tanks. Good for supplementing numbers yes, but Kurg and Boomerang can do fill that role more efficiently
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    Post  GarryB Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:26 am

    Whats the difference between T-90AM and T-90 MS ?

    Literally... both are upgraded T-90 tanks... the AM was to be the upgraded domestic model with lots of secret stuff likely developed for the Armata program and not for export, while the T-90MS is the for export model upgraded as far as they could without starting from scratch.
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    Post  Vann7 Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:12 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Whats the difference between T-90AM and T-90 MS ?

    Literally... both are upgraded T-90 tanks... the AM was to be the upgraded domestic model with lots of secret stuff likely developed for the Armata program and not for export, while the T-90MS is the for export model upgraded as far as they could without starting from scratch.

    But the T-90MS also have the new improved Gun that could carry longer projectiles for bigger punching power? or only the domestic version? and how about Arena also supported?
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    Post  GarryB Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:56 am

    The domestic model (AM) is better equipped than the export model (MS), so when they talk about the export model having a longer higher pressure main gun with new autoloader allowing longer projectiles you can be sure the AM has that as well.

    It will also likely have the early models of new systems the Armata/kurganets/boomerang/typhoon MBT will be getting too.
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    Post  collegeboy16 Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:43 am

    Also while you cant get much length out of the current autoloader(740mm max), the metallurgy of penetrators and the chemistry of
    the propellants must have improved substantially since mango- it may not bust the latest western and russian tank but anything
    that advanced is never in numbers anyway that is till armata shows up in numbers.
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    Post  TR1 Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:46 am

    http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9314/34848181.0/0_d0376_13f0e267_XXXL.jpg

    New mud reactive armor.
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    Post  Zivo Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:01 am

    TR1 wrote:http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9314/34848181.0/0_d0376_13f0e267_XXXL.jpg

    New mud reactive armor.

    He got it stuck, he had to make it unstuck.

    Deep pits of mud are not fun when you have to navigate them with the hatch open.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:50 am

    New mud reactive armor.

    IR camouflage... it worked for Arnie in Predator...

    Deep pits of mud are not fun when you have to navigate them with the hatch open.

    Looks like he had to get out and push...   Very Happy
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    Post  collegeboy16 Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:43 am

    GarryB wrote:
    New mud reactive armor.
    How did this happen? are they like trying to plow a field or something?
    Tho if its really effective against thermals and maybe radar, rolling in mud pools would be a valid tactic. It would be the new hull-down.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:42 pm

    How does this happen?

    My friend... after a bit of rain even the hardest dirt that has a division of tanks and armoured vehicles roll over it becomes very soft. Choke points like near gates become particularly soft with heavy vehicles churning up the dirt deeper and deeper as more vehicles pass.

    the threat of getting stuck... and even the lightest most mobile vehicle occasionally gets stuck BTW, is rather greater than being targeted by enemy forces.

    I doubt mud would be effective against radar as radar will pass straight through it and hit the armour and bounce back through the mud to the radar antenna... there is a reason for kits like Nakidka... if mud worked there would be no need for such kits.
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    Post  TR1 Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:42 pm

    collegeboy16 wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    New mud reactive armor.
    How did this happen? are they like trying to plow a field or something?
    Tho if its really effective against thermals and maybe radar, rolling in mud pools would be a valid tactic. It would be the new hull-down.

    I think that was this T-90:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMwdQN-2f2w

    Airsofters Very Happy
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    Post  collegeboy16 Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:17 am

    Good thing for the new brigades, each vehicle can pull each other out, no need for pulling back engineer vehicles or MBTs just to tow a stuck vehicle.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:09 am

    In the new brigades each vehicle should have the same mobility as the others but two cables are always handy... even the best cross country vehicle can get stuck.
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    Post  George1 Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:12 pm

    Number of T-90s are still at 550??
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    Post  TR1 Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:34 pm

    George1 wrote:Number of T-90s are still at 550??

    I would say closer to 500.

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    Post  collegeboy16 Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:06 am

    dunno bout numbers, but maybe T-72B with relikt and panoramic sights could be counted as T-90 equivalent too.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:59 pm

    For people wondering about the advancements of T-90SM over T-90S:

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    Post  KRATOS1133 Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:35 am

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    Post  Vann7 Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:37 am



    awesome video of T-90ms.. thanks.  Smile 

    Still Can't wait for the armata video.... Very Happy 

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