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    Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship

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    Post  GarryB Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:04 am

    It was believed that project 22160 warships are unfit for the Arctic, but the corvette coped with all missions. It means the corvettes can operate in the northern seas against submarines, the Izvestia daily writes.

    It is nice when things turn out to be better than you were expecting when tested... much better than the other way around like some projects...

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    Post  George1 Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:32 pm

    The Project 22160 latest patrol vessel Pavel Derzhavin has entered service with Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, the Fleet’s press office reported on Friday.

    https://tass.com/defense/1228689

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    Post  Hole Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:08 pm

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    Post  George1 Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:38 pm

    Patrol ship "Dmitry Rogachev" of the Black Sea Fleet in the Bosphorus

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    https://dambiev.livejournal.com/2187843.html

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    Post  LMFS Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:18 pm

    The fourth patrol ship of project 22160 was launched in Kerch

    The fourth patrol ship of project 22160 "Sergei Kotov" was launched in Kerch. The ceremony took place at the Zaliv shipyard.
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    The ceremony was attended by the First Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Navy Alexander Vitko, the authorities of the Republic of Crimea, shipbuilders and veterans of the plant.

    I am sure that the fate of the ship will turn out and will be successful. It cannot be different. You have invested your knowledge, skills, your Crimean soul in this ship, and therefore it will worthily defend our homeland

    - Vitko declared.

    The patrol ship "Sergei Kotov" is the fourth ship of Project 22160 and the third serial one. Laid down on May 8, 2016, transfer to the Navy is planned by the end of 2021. The lead ship of the Vasily Bykov series and the first and second serial Dmitry Rogachev and Pavel Derzhavin are already in service, the fourth and fifth serial patrol ships Viktor Veliky and Nikolai Sipyagin are being built in Zelenodolsk. All ships are intended for the Black Sea fleet.

    The new patrol ship was named in honor of the Hero of the Soviet Union, a participant in the defense of Odessa and Sevastopol, the liberation of Rear Admiral Sergei Kotov and Novorossiysk and Crimea.

    https://en.topwar.ru/179506-v-kerchi-spuschen-na-vodu-chetvertyj-patrulnyj-korabl-sergej-kotov-proekta-22160.html

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    Post  mnztr Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:56 am

    Are they going to use turbines on any of these ships?
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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:11 am

    mnztr wrote:Are they going to use turbines on any of these ships?

    AFAIK they have diesels for cruise and MGTs for boost.  From USC website:

    Main propulsion plant:
    1 x 5,400 kW MTU 20V4000 diesel engine
    2 x 1,000 kW M70 gas turbine engines /
    2 x 5,000 kW M75 gas turbine engines

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    Post  Hole Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:25 pm

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    Post  The_Observer Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:36 pm

    Nice aerial view of the Zaliv shipyard Kerch Crimea.



    Recently launched Bykov patrol ship Sergey Kotov can be seen at minute 6:16.

    Anybody know what the rather large ship that shows up at minute 4:58 is? could be a civi vessel or an ice-breaker.

    Karakut at minute 4:35? @ center of the screen

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    Post  franco Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:17 am

    Not sure re the large ship. Believe they have a contract to build 2 cable laying ships for the Russian Navy and it could be one of them dunno

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:39 am

    that's Project 23550
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    Post  The_Observer Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:46 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:that's Project 23550

    yes, definitely looks like it. Though Wiki suggests St Petes and Vyborg as the construction shipyards for this class. Perhaps, they got it wrong.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:33 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:that's Project 23550

    Nope

    That's a cable layer

    Production is stalled because they were designed around imported components by brilliant Russian planners who can never be wrong according to local groupies

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:22 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:that's Project 23550

    Nope

    That's a cable layer

    Production is stalled because they were designed around imported components by brilliant Russian planners who can never be wrong according to local groupies


    Yup, cuz Russians were clearly incompetent losers for buying commercial products from Western suppliers when they didn't anticipate that Western nations would sponsor a violent Nazi-led putsch in Ukropistan which would lead to component supply being blocked.

    yeah... we must be "groupies" for not shit-canning Russian design bureaus over their apparent inability to divine the fucking future... Suspect

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:00 pm

    Anyway, they moved it out of the drydock. At least it is not occupying precious space there. Hopefully Russian firms can design and produce alternative components...
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    Post  owais.usmani Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:20 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Anyway, they moved it out of the drydock. At least it is not occupying precious space there. Hopefully Russian firms can design and produce alternative components...

    Do we know what are the components hit by sanctions? I hope it was not designed around a Ukrainian engine.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:04 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:...Yup, cuz Russians were clearly incompetent losers for buying commercial products from Western suppliers when they didn't anticipate that Western nations would sponsor a violent Nazi-led putsch in Ukropistan which would lead to component supply being blocked.

    yeah... we must be "groupies" for not shit-canning Russian design bureaus over their apparent inability to divine the fucking future... Suspect

    Yes, those benevolent Western nations

    So why was Russia wasting money on military between 1990 and 2014 if they were so benevolent?

    Also, that surprise Nazi plot-twist in the Ukraine, no historian or sociologist could have seen it coming

    No indication of any issues ever... cough*An-70*cough...



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    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Anyway, they moved it out of the drydock. At least it is not occupying precious space there. Hopefully Russian firms can design and produce alternative components...

    Do we know what are the components hit by sanctions? I hope it was not designed around a Ukrainian engine.

    Literally everything except (most of) the steel

    They are now pitching them as hospital ships to MoD but swindle is slow going

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    Post  kumbor Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:13 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:
    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Anyway, they moved it out of the drydock. At least it is not occupying precious space there. Hopefully Russian firms can design and produce alternative components...

    Do we know what are the components hit by sanctions? I hope it was not designed around a Ukrainian engine.

    Pr.22160 patrol ship has russian Kolomenskiy diesel engines. Karakurts were meant to have MTU powerplants, but Germans stopped their export due to sanctions.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:22 pm

    kumbor wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:
    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Anyway, they moved it out of the drydock. At least it is not occupying precious space there. Hopefully Russian firms can design and produce alternative components...

    Do we know what are the components hit by sanctions? I hope it was not designed around a Ukrainian engine.

    Pr.22160 patrol ship has russian Kolomenskiy diesel engines. Karakurts were meant to have MTU powerplants, but Germans stopped their export due to sanctions.

    Karakurts were designed after 2014 and sanctions but they still decided to build them around German engines?

    Brilliant!!! Razz
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    Post  kumbor Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:39 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    kumbor wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:
    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Anyway, they moved it out of the drydock. At least it is not occupying precious space there. Hopefully Russian firms can design and produce alternative components...

    Do we know what are the components hit by sanctions? I hope it was not designed around a Ukrainian engine.

    Pr.22160 patrol ship has russian Kolomenskiy diesel engines. Karakurts were meant to have MTU powerplants, but Germans stopped their export due to sanctions.

    Karakurts were designed after 2014 and sanctions but they still decided to build them around German engines?

    Brilliant!!! Razz

    First Karakurt was laid down by Pella in 2015, but projects have been done at least two years earlier. Idea was to use 20V4000MTUs as a powerplant. German ban on MTU export became effective somewhere in 2015. So, Karakurts have to manage with much worse two Zvezda M-507 engines of 2x56 cylinder 2x5000bhp each = cca 20.000bhp total for 30 knots at full power.

    Possible ASW variant is a very good idea. Good successors to ageing Grishas,

    I think that Bykovs are using 16D49 Kolomna V16s, rather similar to Pielsticks PA6V280 in main characteristics.
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    Post  medo Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:23 pm

    kumbor wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:
    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:Anyway, they moved it out of the drydock. At least it is not occupying precious space there. Hopefully Russian firms can design and produce alternative components...

    Do we know what are the components hit by sanctions? I hope it was not designed around a Ukrainian engine.

    Pr.22160 patrol ship has russian Kolomenskiy diesel engines. Karakurts were meant to have MTU powerplants, but Germans stopped their export due to sanctions.

    Karakurt was designed with Zvezda M-507 engines. Gremyashchy corvette was designed with MTU engines, but now they have Kolomensky engines, same as Steregushy corvettes.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:54 pm

    PD... the expert fortune teller.

    Sorry mate I can't find any of your posts from before 2014 saying Russia should spend billions of dollars developing their own replacements for stuff they buy from other countries... it must have been deleted, but would ask where all the money to fund those replacements was supposed to come from...

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