Project 22160 Bykov-class patrol ship

Missile compartment gym/basketball court :Arrow

verkhoturye51 wrote: There's no way on earth it could be a hatch for loading Kalibrs, or...

hoom wrote:A suggestion I saw at Balancer is basically to avoid sanctions if certain parties are identified as operating in Crimea.
Makes some sense but not sure I entirely buy it.

Container fleet

One of the main trends of modern military shipbuilding in Russia is the creation of so-called universal platforms. To solve specific problems such a ship can be equipped with modular sets of various types of military equipment.

The idea is not new. For the first time, the Danes took it up in the second half of the 1980s, implementing the Standard Flex 300 project. Currently, the United States is developing such weapon modules as part of the construction of a series of littoral warships such as Freedom and Independence.

The Russian solution is very different from foreign ones in that weapons and equipment, as well as their support systems, are placed inside standard sea containers (usually 20-foot). The container is installed on the ship’s deck or in the under-deck space, is connected to the ship power supply system and is integrated into the combat information and control system. In principle, containers can operate autonomously and not depend on the operation of the ship’s power systems.

Among the combat modules the most famous is the universal missile system from the Concern Morinformsystem-Agat. It includes a detection and targeting module and up to four universal launch modules with the Caliber and Uran missiles.

Such modules will be in service with the construction of patrol ships of the project 22160 of the type “Vasily Bykov”, corvettes of the project 20386 of the type “Daring” and patrol icebreakers of the project 23550 of the type “Ivan Papanin”. If necessary, they can be placed on any other ships, in particular on nuclear icebreakers of the “Leader” type.

It is known about the existence of a number of other combat modules, in particular about the transport and launch container with a 324-mm torpedo tube. Mine defense modules are being developed.

But if the combat modules are currently created relatively little, the range of support modules is striking in its diversity.

For the search and detection of underwater vehicles, a container hydroacoustic station “Minotaur-ISPN-M.2” was created. For mapping the seabed and searching objects on it, Oceanpribor has created a mobile complex for monitoring the bottom surface at depths of up to 300 m - the Corvette MK MPD-300.

Tetis-Pro has created the Panther Plus mobile complex. The complex includes a remote-controlled underwater vehicle and two containers with equipment (control station, lifting device, power supply, etc.). In December 2017, the Panther Plus complex was transferred to Argentina, placed on the deck of a patrol ship of the Navy of this country and took an active part in the search for the dead San Juan submarine.

The two containers also houses a complex with autonomous manned underwater vehicles ARS-600. Do not forget about the complex for the placement and management of the uninhabited underwater vehicle "Harpsichord-1R". This module can be used not only to search for underwater objects, in particular, mines, but also to destroy them.

In addition to underwater vehicles, container modules were also created to house and control BPV-500 airborne unmanned helicopters.

A rather large number of modules was created to solve humanitarian problems. In particular, for the Navy, a medical container module was assembled, consisting of the operating room and intensive care unit.

In order to carry out rescue operations and eliminate accidents during which oil spills occur, the company Divetechnoservice has created a mobile high-capacity drainage system MKV-1000.

The Special Operations Forces have autonomous mobile barocomplexes. They consist of three autonomous standard 20-foot sea containers. In one there is a diving pressure chamber RBC-1400 with life support systems, in the other - a charging system for underwater means of movement, in the third - an air supply system. In addition to these modules, there are also fire-fighting modules, etc.

It must be said that the creation of modular complexes and their implementation in the fleet is a very difficult task. So, in the Danish Navy, they did not receive much development, primarily because of problems with crew training. The development of modules for American ships comes with great difficulty and unclear prospects.

Russian scientists and engineers were able to solve the rather difficult task of creating modular weapons and equipment in a very original way - by placing them in an ordinary sea container.

What can a weapon give to our fleet? For example, in the case of solving the problems of the antisubmarine defense of the sea territory, modules with a hydroacoustic towed antenna and with a 324 mm torpedo tube can be installed on the patrol ship of project 22160. In the case of humanitarian missions, medical modules can be installed on the same patrol ship.

The Russian fleet has yet to solve the problem of training operation teams to work with such modules, to arrange their storage and delivery to ships.

One of the important tasks of the Russian Navy in a special period will be the admission to the fleet and the arming of civilian mobilization vessels. The Navy of the USSR and Russia has a long experience of using mobilized ships in combat operations. Thus, at the beginning of World War II, a large number of civilian vessels and fishing trawlers were taken into service.

For example, artillery pieces were placed on them, anti-submarine and mine-torpedo weapons were deployed. They became guard ships and minesweepers. The contribution of such "mobilized ships" to the overall Victory is not much less than the contribution of special-purpose warships.

Having a variety of combat modules in stock, the Navy will be able to arm even small ships with powerful rocket weapons as soon as possible. And a simple supply tug of the “Naftogaz” type with 8 “Calibers” on board can become a very strong threat to the warships of the aggressor.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:interesting fragments relevant to 22160: Great to see Bykov Clas ship with corvette function . Only decent SAM is missing...

PapaDragon wrote:

GunshipDemocracy wrote:interesting fragments relevant to 22160: Great to see Bykov Clas ship with corvette function . Only decent SAM is missing...

It's not missing, space behind main gun can hold SAM VLS

What they are missing is sonar and CIWS

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

GunshipDemocracy wrote:interesting fragments relevant to 22160: Great to see Bykov Clas ship with corvette function . Only decent SAM is missing...

It's not missing, space behind main gun can hold SAM VLS

What they are missing is sonar and CIWS

On ship that class Pantsir M with (SM) range 40km should do fine. Sonar I guess could be in containers, a towed one. With container based avionics. just to plug into ships network.

PapaDragon wrote:
They don't need nto sacrifice container space, there is space below which is used for landing craft, they can install towed sonar there

And they definitely need to add bow sonar as well

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
They don't need nto sacrifice container space, there is space below which is used for landing craft, they can install towed sonar there

And they definitely need to add bow sonar as well

hmm couple of budget cuts and RuN shall start drawing conclusions: stop with 20380/85 start with 22160 in ASW version.

PapaDragon wrote:

20380/85 and especially 20386 are true multirole Naval vessels that can operate much further and more efficiently than 22160

Paps wrote:Keep in mind that 22160 is built to commercial standards, does not carry sufficient amount of weaponry for it's size and would not fare well too far from protection that coastal aviation and missiles provide
It's still a patrol ship that could be used as (very good) anti-sub corvette with modifications but strictly in sheltered environment of submarine bastions near Russia

It's advantage is low price, build speed and simplicity all of which are derived from commercial specs it's built around

This ship should be used as cheap method of freeing up corvettes and frigates from anti-sub work close to home so they could operate further out

interesting fragments relevant to 22160

For the search and detection of underwater vehicles, a container hydroacoustic station “Minotaur-ISPN-M.2” was created.